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I believe, that if you made poll here Gray Matter would still come in as #1.
JustAdventure did it, and there's no doubt over there which game the readers are looking forward to
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Sure you are, but I have no idea why you're bringing up 'integrity'.
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Seriously, I don't know... but the word "integrity" sound way too exaggerated. And, as Misslilo said, I also think that a poll could show that Gray Matter really is the most hyped game.
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At the end of the day something like the Hype-o-Meter is always going to be open to charges of bias because you can't tell for sure why a game is placed where it is. It's the reviews (where you get a full explanation of why a game is scored as it is) that really exhibit integrity.
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I'm not accusing the Hype-o-Meter of 'bias'; I'm just saying that this is something that should be taken into account at the next update. No matter how eagerly anticipated a game may be, keeping it at the no. 1 spot looks pretty silly when the official release date is approaching and we've had virtually no news in six months. |
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Whoops, I haven't been following this thread lately. Just FYI, for those questioning Gray Matter's ranking, a new update will be done shortly and the game will be dropping.
The reasons it held #1 for so long are twofold: first, as some have suggested, I believe it would likely still top any fan poll of most-anticipated games, regardless of updates, and secondly, there just aren't any other games doing much better. At least, nothing that strikes me as deserving of the top spot. That said, I'm gonna shake things up a bit momentarily. |
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Exactly. Where are those? Just a few screenshots are enough to put it No.1? That's why I questioned the integrity of this choice
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I think essentially we're thinking along the same lines. If there aren't any updates then any evaluation should take into account the lack of recent updates regardless of the quality of any old updates. However, speaking purely personally, I've seen a lot of discussion of Gray Matter in the forums and I haven't looked at the Hype-O-Meter in ages. It's therefore a game I'm more aware of because people are talking about it (rather than any site is hyping it) Maybe that indicates it does merit a place in the Hype-O-Meter. Whether it merits the number 1 position is always open to debate.
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And if you go down the entire list of HoM games, really none have provided more extensive preview material than Gray Matter, nor anything more recent outside of Germany, so it's not like anything was really beating down the door. Frankly, I think this speaks to the common error of announcing games WAY too early. But they all do it, so it's almost inevitable to get long gaps at some point along the way. |
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The same happens with products. Each product has a life-cycle and sooner or later it starts to decline. This is when advertising takes place, in order to enhance the community buzz and withstand the dry periods. But sometimes it serves as a propaganda stating that the product is No.1. And unfortunately HoM serves as a mean for advertisement. It tries to keep Gray Matter alive, not taking into consideration that it might act as a propaganda for the game Last edited by g_sakil; 02-26-2008 at 02:16 AM. |
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Well your point is moot, Gray Matter is at number 4
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It was about time. I hope I helped you to see that something was wrong with the HoM and Gray Matter being on top.
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Let's have some perspective here. If someone gets aggravated because a computer game is released later than planned, they should probably get something less ephemeral to have that reaction to...
Jane has earned a dozen times over the right to all the time it takes to finish a game properly. I would also point out that most of the PR material has referred to tentative or projected release dates. Those words are there for a reason. Simo Sakari Aaltonen (simoadventurecompanion.com) www.adventurecompanion.com Last edited by Simo Sakari Aaltonen; 02-26-2008 at 02:27 AM. |
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I couldn't agree less with the choice.
In literature, in cinema, in theatre, the Author is perhaps the most important aspect of any new production. It's been two and a half year since the last book of G.R.R. Martin's saga, A song of ice and fire, was published. Nevertheless, although we haven't seen nothing more than two preview chapter of the next book, fans worldwide are still expecting the book with great anticipation. After Mulholland Drive, Lynch took five years to produce and complete his masterpiece, Inland Empire, but - since the very moment in which it was announced - I didn't care of how much information I'd have about the plot, the characters or the use of digital cameras. It was Lynch's next film, and I was expecting with great anticipation. When it was announced that Project-J was revived, I didn't care of previews, screenshots, trailer or any other stuff. After the stunning writing for Police Quest III, after the beautiful King's Quest VI (where Jene Jensen's pen is far more present than Williams') and foremost after Gabriel Knight, Gray Matter will be Jane's next project, and I'm expecting this with great anticipation. Pulling it down or up, simply state that this politique des auteurs work not only with Jane, but also with other designers. I only find a bit ridiculous that now the first position is held by a series which chapters we can play at a monthly distance. And a bit pretentious, 'cause I think that - in difference with S&M season 2 - almost everyone will play, when it's out, Gray Matter.
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As I said in a similar thread over at JA, I'm far more cynical about this type of thing than I was a few years back, simply because I've seen so many fantastic-sounding games turn out to be a huge disappointment (or never even make it to retail). So while it's nice that you feel able to have such faith in JJ, I'm afraid I just can't bring myself to share your enthusiasm right now. |
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When Cormac McCarthy or Thomas Pynchon, or David Lynch, or George Martin (and I still can go on and on) hints that they're working to something new, the news spread worldwide, despite informations being diffused or not. To adhere to our topic, I'm really looking forward to play Overclocked, Mata Hari, So Blonde and others, but no one of them can raise my expectations higher than Gray Matter. What does it mean? That, in my own case, if the Hype-o-Meter depends only on me, Gray Matter will still be First to the very moment of its release. And I think that a Hype thermometer have to show the games that fans are expecting, despite demos, screenshots, trailers, news and information. I understand that these aren't the parameters for the Hype-o-Meter and I accept the fact. What I'm pointing out is that - if Gray Matter managed, although shadowy and uncertain, to raise our expectations so much - it deserves to be placed first. Now, it's note the case anymore and I've to make my peace
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