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diego - 18 January 2015 03:32 PM

LK, I’m sure Woodstock will go along fine with the Yaki-bird:

Good one!!

Tempted to call it a bit spoilerish though… She is 2 chapters behind!!

Sefir - 18 January 2015 08:17 AM

Zifnab - 18 January 2015 06:58 AM

Sefir - 18 January 2015 06:32 AM

FULL SOLUTION CONCERNING THE “FAST” YAKI
Step 1:Blow off all the candles in the screen.The yaki appears automatically.

WHAT. I had NO idea you could do that. So why on earth can fat spot blow the foghorn but not candles? Bad puzzle, bad BAD puzzle.

Because blowing the candles is something Sadwick can do on his own. Sadwick doesn’t have the power to blow the horn. He even mentions it. The puzzle is very good as it is in that department.

Oh, nonsense. Bad logic is bad logic. The axe puzzle is another example.

Why do you keep defending the game against every fair criticism? You don’t need to be hurt if someone doesn’t like a puzzle.

Zifnab - 18 January 2015 04:12 PM

Oh, nonsense. Bad logic is bad logic. The axe puzzle is another example.

Why do you keep defending the game against every fair criticism? You don’t need to be hurt if someone doesn’t like a puzzle.

Hurt is a very wrong word. I just see logic through these particular puzzles you mentioned either through Sadwick’s comments or through a different way of logical thinking. My comments are fair too you know…I just present you some thoughts or details that you might have missed/not thought off and offer a different perspective.  I find nothing wrong in discussing about the game we play together.

About chapter 2 in general:
I also believe that this chapter is slightly weaker than the first one. Using the rat on the pantaloons was stupid. At least the game is completely self aware of that and Sadwick humours the solution in an appropriate way. I do like Mulachei, the yaki and the new Spot transformation.  But what Sadwick did to poor Spot was completely out of character IMO. There are some comments from the developers about that moment that I heavily disagree.

I´m done with chapter 2 as well. And quite liked it, even though the island feels a bit small and empty. Found the puzzles quite logical, at least compared to the last CP..

And I, for one, liked Bando- at least his german incarnation. Didn´t like the boss character, but definetly poor Bando who loves noise.

The way I see it, if the solution to a puzzle is to cut/burn/extinguish something, and you have two ways of cutting/burning/extinguishing, the game should either let me do both, or give me a reason why I can’t do one.

I have had problems with Daedelic’s ‘one puzzle, one solution’ mantra before. Even Sierra is much fairer at most times. The best AG puzzles ask the player to first say ‘okay, I need to do this, but how?’. When the game doesn’t respond to a sensible way of accomplishing a task, it’s rational to think you are looking at it the wrong way and that the task doesn’t need to be accomplished after all; and irrational to use every cutting device you own because only one will cut a piece of string.

This is where the AG genre’s reputation for illogical puzzles comes from. You can blame the player for not using everything on everything, but I prefer to blame the developer for artificially inflating the difficulty for no reason and punishing rational thinking.

Edit: It also misses the opportunity for some great jokes. Take the Space Quest series, you could try something and the narrator would say ‘Now there’s an idea! If only…’ and make a very clever joke/hint which often put you on the right track through innuendo. TWW does that occasionally, but not enough.

Duck of Doom - 18 January 2015 06:53 PM

...the island feels a bit small and empty. Found the puzzles quite logical, at least compared to the last CP..

1) EVERYTHING is more logical than the Discworld riddles. That’s not a fair comparison!
2) Yes, it feels empty. This is something that you will notice in other chapters as well. Of course, there is a perfectly well reason for it, but the number of characters could have been bigger.

Still a bit behind here, not even sure what am I supposed to do here

Bando voice is great! Love to hear him yell all kinds of random stuff

diego - 19 January 2015 04:08 PM

I knew Mulachei is reminding me of someone…

Famous Yoda Quotes: “One who votes not for The Whispered World, a traitor is!!”

EDIT:

diego - 19 January 2015 04:08 PM

BTW, how does Ruben know he’s missing exactly one pearl only by smelling it?

Have you ever heard of Scrooge McDuck?

diego - 19 January 2015 04:08 PM

wilco - 19 January 2015 03:50 PM

Still a bit behind here, not even sure what am I supposed to do here

The main goal is, of course, to find grandpa’s pantaloons.

It had to be. I beginning to wonder when they would show up! (Spot should have a pantaloons form by now )

Sefir - 16 January 2015 02:57 AM

Tip 1: To find Spot’s new transormation you have to be kind of a sadist. Don’t worry. Catterpillars are famed for their flexibility.

 

Kind of sadist?!? That was some nightmare Inquisition torture. I was just trying for the response and couldn’t believe Sad(ist)wick went with it.
Poor Spot!

I’m stuck, need a little wink, wink nudge, nudge

The factory is working and I got the 5 spot form
I have half a cog.
I think I either need to find the other half to open the door or use something on the creature under the bed- a yaki?