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Kasper F. Nielsen - 24 October 2013 06:05 AM

My biggest fear is how the characters will look, because even though many newer games have amazing background art they then often ruin it with clunky, ugly 3D models that doesn’t fit in at all.

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I would be superhappy if the characters were animated traditionally, but in all likeliness, what we’ll get is what you described above

Kasper F. Nielsen - 24 October 2013 06:05 AM

My biggest fear is how the characters will look, because even though many newer games have amazing background art they then often ruin it with clunky, ugly 3D models that doesn’t fit in at all.

Well the Gabriel model is actually shown in one of the screenshots and it also looks extremely good. The concern is more about how the animation will be at this point. Since they’ve used motion capture I’m not to worried about that either. This project has enormous potential.

Dag - 24 October 2013 07:08 AM

I would be superhappy if the characters were animated traditionally, but in all likeliness, what we’ll get is what you described above

Unfortunately, the character modeling in JJ’s latest, Gray Matter, didn’t, IMO, show a great deal of improvement over what we saw in GK3. I hope for much more improvement this time around, but time will tell.

Silly? Only because we’re comparing JJ games. I’ll give you that Gray Matter is marginally better than GK3 re: 3D character modeling. But not by much. I thought that both were quite bad.

And I am really trying to keep this comment zeroed in on my opinion of the graphic quality versus my opinion of the games.

Lambonius - 26 October 2013 12:57 AM

I just meant that GK3 is REALLY hard on the eyes—Gray Matter looks at least as good as the average PS2 game.  The pre-rendered backgrounds look leaps and bounds better.  Characters probably less so, though.

You can actuslly make GK3 look a bit better by using a custom resolution, you need to knife register to do that though. But the game does look a tad better in full HD, despite the model and texture fidelity is what it is.

I shudder just by the thought of playing GK3 because, like Lambonius said, it looks like utter dogshit, and I get a bit nauseous looking at it. While Gray Matter’s graphics certainly could be better, I don’t see how anyone could argue that it hasn’t been improved leaps and bounds from GK3. Visually, I’d place GK3 in the same cathegory as Simon 3D (which is a cathegory I wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole)

GK3 isn’t now where as horrible looking game as Simon 3D is. Simon 3D was a result of bad choices, where as GK3 was at least meant to be a 3D game from the start. But yeah, the time hasn’t been gentle with it, nor many other 90’s real time 3D games for the matter.

(I would jump up and down from joy if Big Finish would release a HR versions of older tex murphy titles, with a bit beefed up modeling and texturing, and FMV as well given that they still do have the original films)

UPtimist - 26 October 2013 11:00 AM

I always find it odd when people trash GK3’s graphics. I mean, they’re obviously rough, and far from beautiful, but I always thought they’re quite easy on the eyes and at least it’s very clear (like, many games are totally a mess about what some things are even supposed to be).

And the facial expressions on the characters are better than many games even today. I mean, facial expressions that matched the quality of GK3 wouldn’t be seen for like a decade or something, and still even many quite top-level games lack a certain… naturalness that GK3 has, even if they are maybe more diverse and so.

I pretty much agree with this. I never had an issue with the GK3 graphics. They are not beautiful but they are very functional and playable.

RockNFknRoll - 27 October 2013 05:24 PM

This is worrisome to me. Everything looks plastic and clean, not the warm, rich hand drawn look like the original. GK looks like a Ken Doll, there’s little character to him. Reminds me of Secret Files or something, and I don’t want it to remind me of any modern AG.

That definetly is the worst of the BG images presented, but I think it also might be some older WIP version of the scene just to show up Gabriels model, which is the main focus there. The rest of the BG pics shown have been of much more higher quality.