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I didn’t say you aren’t creative Advie. I just corrected you on your saying that the academic is the opposite of the creative. And I agree with you that many creative processes occur during strong emotions, but emotions are about consciousness too and I have to start somewhere.

Well, good luck on your quest of creativity (do I smell a Sierra game there somewhere? Creativity Quest!), Tsa. Creativity is one of the biggest puzzles and hottest topics in certain parts of the academia right now. A lot has been written, even more is being studied, and very little is known. But this is obviously this is not a discouraging statement - on the contrary, more the reason to get cracking on the subject.

Also, the part about academic stuff being the opposite of creativity - Tsa is right in that proper academic study is certainly a highly creative process. But there are many types of creativity and I feel you both are talking about very different things. Certainly there are some cases of just “mindless” recording of data (but that’s the opposite of academic research, even though I believe many of those outside the academic circles have such a narrow view of what research is), but proper academic study is always open-minded, and the whole point is to create new ideas that are as original as possible (to generalize a bit). You need to think outside the box, to connect things that others wouldn’t understand to connect, etcetera. But of course you have to follow certain rules in research, while in a purely creative medium like art, you only need to follow guidelines you consciously or unconsciously set for yourself.

I mean, I consider myself a quite highly creative person (in a more artistic sense) as well as quite an academic person, and I only see them as being expressions of the same… thing (clearly I’m not so creative linguistically ). Two sides of the same coin, and not even that much on opposite sides.

Anyway, just wanted to do a middle-of-the-night ramble about that, I guess

Anyways, once again, creativity and the consciousness are fascinating and difficult, extremely multi-sided issues, that I’d sure love to study myself too… So good luck, and I hope you get a lot out of it. It’s sure.going to be a long-term project, so lots of enthusiasm is surely needed, too! Anyways, do come and enlighten us when you have become a guru, won’t you?

Nice ramble UP! Me becoming a guru will take a lot of time since I do this in my spare time. The question of creativity is, as Advie and You and I showed, a very complicated and multi-sided issue; much more complicated and on a whole different level than the nanofabrication I have done so far at work. I’m curious how far I will get. It would be awesome if I can get an article published as an amateur! Very expensive too, but that’s another matter…

By the way Advie, I don’t get your joke… . Is that me being stupid? 

UPtimist - 24 March 2014 06:47 AM

just hang at the Chit Chat side - all the nice people are here

Good to know.

@tsa what causes creativity? - You may want to take a look into memetics, if you haven’t already. For an example, read what Susan Blackmore has written about memes, memeplexes etc. Might give you a new perspective how to see processes behind creativity.

“Art vs Science, That’s Mozart vs Ions”
-Matt Okine

Have you unionized?

(By the way, to add to my previous stuff, it’s also very good to remember how much different areas of scientific research differ from each other. Like, I would guess that my scientific worldview is very different from Tsa’s, as he (as I remember) is from the natural sciences while I am from the social science or humanities side)

Also, Robert, you have a moral victory, surely.

Guys, darnit, why didn’t anyone notify me - two days ago was my 10-year anniversary in Adventure Gamers!

Happy 10th anniversary UPtimist! Have Kate Walker!

stepurhan - 25 March 2014 03:40 AM

tsa - 24 March 2014 11:35 PM

By the way Advie, I don’t get your joke… . Is that me being stupid? 

The joke is the husband is concerned about the man being described as a mechanic, not that said man was getting amorous with his wife.

I thought he was a hideous murderer or something. But that was probably because I played too many horror games yesterday.

I just saw Obama say that the Nuclear Security Summit in The Hague “has been truly gezellig.” How cool is that? He must be a member of these forums since the beginning of his presidency .