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lewuz - 24 March 2014 06:22 AM

I’ve never been in this thread, but as it is for “rambling” and, as title says, “Anything Goes”, I will just make (probably) one-off appearance to say a bit about recently closed thread An Infamous Lack of Professionalism
(http://www.adventuregamers.com/forums/viewthread/3315)

I have seriously reduced my activity in ag forum, partly as some members irritate me. So I somewhat understand rdtlj. Apparently I wonder around different threads as I have nothing to say about Lambonius and Blackthorne though.

I take no side. I just want to make a nod to rdtlj for the work s/he have made. Clearly s/he have got more than enough to initiate such research.

I do agree some of the overall points of thread though. I do appreciate politeness (a thing the last poster, before the thread was closed down, Advie has unfortunately lost over the years) and objectiveness. At the same time I think highly of honesty and despise taking no responsibility of said things.

I have mixed feeling regarding the closing of thread. Sure, it would have been a huge war. A lot of hurtful things would have been said.
But at the same time, IF ag members would have behaved like grownups, maybe it would have worked as a purge as people would have been able to say out what annoys and how some members can improve their communication skills (not only Lambonius and Blackthorne).

In the interest of knowing what the heck was being discussed, I read the linked (and now closed) thread. 

I had not noticed Lambonius’s posts before, but in reading the ones quoted in the linked thread I was reminded strongly of some of Squarejawhero’s more impassioned posts back in the olden days… many of which prompted a similar reaction from some other forumites at the time. 

After I stopped idly wondering if Lambonius was Squarejawhero returned under a different nickname, I remembered that more than once SJH explained his occasional… let’s call it “lack of forum decorum” as a side-effect of his being a “touch typist”.  I took that to mean that he could transcribe his thoughts almost directly to the printed page via keyboard very quickly (instead of hunting & pecking as I do), which would mean that something I or most people might shout at the computer screen before hammering out a measured, considered response, he would dash out almost instantly on screen and hit “Post Reply” without editing.

Speaking of editing, edited to add:
I do think that posting a thread in the Adventure-only forum was both the wrong venue and protocol for airing personal grievances against specific members.

lewuz - 24 March 2014 06:22 AM

I’ve never been in this thread, but as it is for “rambling” and, as title says, “Anything Goes”, I will just make (probably) one-off appearance to say a bit about recently closed thread An Infamous Lack of Professionalism
(http://www.adventuregamers.com/forums/viewthread/3315)

I have seriously reduced my activity in ag forum, partly as some members irritate me. So I somewhat understand rdtlj. Apparently I wonder around different threads as I have nothing to say about Lambonius and Blackthorne though.

I take no side. I just want to make a nod to rdtlj for the work s/he have made. Clearly s/he have got more than enough to initiate such research.

I do agree some of the overall points of thread though. I do appreciate politeness (a thing the last poster, before the thread was closed down, Advie has unfortunately lost over the years) and objectiveness. At the same time I think highly of honesty and despise taking no responsibility of said things.

I have mixed feeling regarding the closing of thread. Sure, it would have been a huge war. A lot of hurtful things would have been said.
But at the same time, IF ag members would have behaved like grownups, maybe it would have worked as a purge as people would have been able to say out what annoys and how some members can improve their communication skills (not only Lambonius and Blackthorne).

Just a quick (and final) word about this as a moderator: while I wasn’t the one that closed that thread, I fully support the closure of it. That thread was opening a proverbial can of worms, it would’ve caused a shitstorm that could’ve given a lot of forum members (and mods) a serious headache, so I’m very much in favour of nipping things like that in the bud. Nothing good would’ve come out of that thread.

Plus I feel that a lot of the criticism in that thread - despite ndtlj having a point at times - simply came too late. After Lambonius and Blackthorne’s last official warnings (at which point they really were within inches of a ban), they cleaned up their act, so to speak. There haven’t been any flame wars with them at the center since, so I feel that there’s no need to artificially start one now with a thread like the one that’s just been closed…

Personally, I feel that they were given a last chance, and that they took it. Some of the more recent posts that ndtlj linked to are nowhere near as bad as he makes them seem, imo.

I feel that a lot of that discord between their old posts and their new ones is at most grounds for a friendly jab at either Blackthorne and Lambonius - something in the vein of quoting an old post of theirs that contradicts a recent statement and jokingly mentioning “that’s not what you said last year ”. It’s not grounds for an all-out assault on their entire posting history (which ndtlj’s thread practically was).

Sage - 24 March 2014 12:04 PM

I took that to mean that he could transcribe his thoughts almost directly to the printed page via keyboard very quickly (instead of hunting & pecking as I do), which would mean that something I or most people might shout at the computer screen before hammering out a measured, considered response, he would dash out almost instantly on screen and hit “Post Reply” without editing.

As is often the case on teh Internetz, thinking twice before actually posting something could mean the difference between behaving like a grown-up and proving the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (GIFT).



Also, if forum members/threads/posts irritate you, there’s nothing that prevents you from speaking up about that. Either challenge them directly (and politely!), or report them to the team of mods. The mods are here to help, you know.

The forum police are your friends…

@Advie.

When a moderator says “final word”, that does not mean post something else on the subject if you really want to. This time I have simply deleted the post and posted this warning. Please do not do this again.

tsa - 24 March 2014 04:07 PM

O my! In the early 1980s or late 1970s we had a campaign by the government that told us: ‘The police is your best friend.’ That was by far the most wrongest campaign they ever had. Respect for the police dwindled since then. So please Timovieman, don’t even say that jokingly because it will backfire.

P.S. Later we got ‘Die pet past ons allemaal,’ which translated to ‘That hat fits us all.’ Of course that only made things worse.

The police in Belgium had similar campaigns in the past (“De politie: uw vriend!” - “The police: your friends!”). They only lead to ridicule.

I just wanted to lighten the thread back up (and a little gratuitous Phoenix Wright is NEVER wrong )...

stepurhan - 24 March 2014 04:27 PM

@Advie.

When a moderator says “final word”, that does not mean post something else on the subject if you really want to. This time I have simply deleted the post and posted this warning. Please do not do this again.

Sorry about that .

tsa,
Your link to the flash mob’s Ode to Joy made me cry.  It was one of my husband’s favorite pieces of music.

Timo,
I appreciate your even-handed approach here. 

Well about being creative it has nothing to do with consciousness ,imo,creativity comes with being absorbed into one state of mind ,either happiness or sadness ,the more extreme one’s mind state with those two opposite feelings the more thee flow is smooth. when it comes to my personal experience I found the opposite of the creative is the academic.

that is well scientific talk ,tsa
but what am I? I am just a lousy musician from a land down under, but my experience that while I cant read sheet music and I know little about theory ,I had stunned many doctors at the conservatoire with some compositions .