The erm........masturbation thread... - Page 6

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-08-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiwak

I had been watching Skinemax at night for a while (several months at least) and then one day I couldn't stand it anymore and touched myself and literally a second or two into it I orgasmed. I remembered feeling incredibly disgusted and crept to the bathroom and washed my hands legs and genitals. I hated doing it for a couple of years but I couldn't control it, despite trying to quit several times. Within the last few years I've fully accepted the behavior as normal and don't relaly shy away from talking about it at all. I think the environment around me (my mom is rather conservative morally, living in a southern Baptist family, and I've been schooled with equally conservative kids) was responsible for my negative reactions to the behavior.

Nothing like dumb-ass parents and even dumber-ass religious upbringing to f*** up one's sex life. One important reason I why I shafted the Catholic church and its moronic dogma.

Sage · 06-08-2006, 06:47 PM

C'mon guys, can't we have a nice thread about masturbation without someone dragging religion in to it?

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-08-2006, 07:00 PM

Nope. That's the reality, masturbation has always had a less than respected rap in our culture mainly because of religion. I mean, c'mon! You were told over and over again (in blatant and in subtle ways) that it's wrong, and that gets internalized to the point where...well, look what happened to Spiwak. How can you NOT bring up or think about religion when discussing self pleasuring?

You can't blame Spiwak for naturally being aware of what he had to go through.

Sage · 06-08-2006, 07:23 PM

Okay, fair enough. I'll give you that one.
As I've said many times before, I had an atypical upbringing and things like masturbation simply weren't the big deal in my house that they were in other people's homes.

Jeysie · 06-08-2006, 09:32 PM

I dunno, I was raised Catholic, and I'm not in the least bit uptight about sex-related things. But then, Massachusetts is pretty familiar with the concept of the religious liberal.

I do find it weird that very conservative types get upset over the matter, though. You'd think they'd decide that having your young teen deal with their sexual urges by masturbating is better than having them deal with the urges by having premarital sex. (Then again, most very conservative types seem to expect people to have superhuman self-control.)

Peace & Luv, Liz

Spiwak · 06-08-2006, 10:47 PM

I didn't mean to start debates (although I do think the condescension towards masturbation is heavily dated if the Old Testament is the basis for it). It's just sort of a fact of life around here. You just don't....talk about that sort of thing down here, even though I'm sure most boys do it anyway. I know girls also do it but there are still girls I know that genuinely find the idea repulsive.

I mean, in my art classes if something I was doing incorporated genitalia people (including my parents) would seriously ask what was wrong with me, or if they be male genitalia, question my sexuality (though perhaps they were just incessantly joking with that, I can't say). Not everyone of course, but people nonetheless.

In the end it's only served to increase my fascination with eroticism and how people respond to it.

Sage · 06-09-2006, 05:20 AM

Nothing makes a thing so attractive as being told you can't have it.
If you don't mind my asking, where are you from Spiwak?

Spiwak · 06-10-2006, 10:55 AM

Florida. Not even the wild and crazy southern part but Jacksonville, as close to Georgia as you can get and also very near some military stuff (Air Force and Navy, respectively).

Of course, the whole city isn't conservative but most of the people I know are.

Jatsie · 06-10-2006, 05:14 PM

I just remembered something curious I read a while ago.

Apparently somewhere in deepest America there is a certain group of Christian whackjobs that take abstinence one step further, and wear a bracelet as a sign of their commitment not to masturbate.

If they break their vow they must remove their bracelet and then suffer the "shame" when their friends notice.

These people are so retarded, and didn't anyone ever inform them that regular masturbation promotes a healthy prostate?

Dasilva · 06-10-2006, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jat316sob

I just remembered something curious I read a while ago.

Apparently somewhere in deepest America there is a certain group of Christian whackjobs that take abstinence one step further, and wear a bracelet as a sign of their commitment not to masturbate.

If they break their vow they must remove their bracelet and then suffer the "shame" when their friends notice.

These people are so retarded, and didn't anyone ever inform them that regular masturbation promotes a healthy prostate?

Thats just the dumbest thing ever. I don't see why it is anyone elses bussness if someone wanks, its their own choice. Same with sex.

Sage · 06-10-2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jat316sob

I just remembered something curious I read a while ago.

Apparently somewhere in deepest America there is a certain group of Christian whackjobs that take abstinence one step further, and wear a bracelet as a sign of their commitment not to masturbate.

If they break their vow they must remove their bracelet and then suffer the "shame" when their friends notice.

These people are so retarded, and didn't anyone ever inform them that regular masturbation promotes a healthy prostate?

The thing is, most of these people are shameless hypocrites. Unless they actually get caught in the act of masturbating by another bracelet-wearer, they'll swear up and down that they never do it. Uh-uh, no how, no way, not me, I just had an itch, etc, etc.
Basically, this is just one more way to get parents who have long since forgotten what it's like to be a teenager off their backs for a little while...at least over one issue.

Dasilva · 06-10-2006, 06:15 PM

Thats true, how would they find out? Would they check if theres cum on their trousers or something?! lol. They're all liers!

Aj_ · 06-10-2006, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jat316sob

I just remembered something curious I read a while ago.

Apparently somewhere in deepest America there is a certain group of Christian whackjobs that take abstinence one step further, and wear a bracelet as a sign of their commitment not to masturbate.

If they break their vow they must remove their bracelet and then suffer the "shame" when their friends notice.

These people are so retarded, and didn't anyone ever inform them that regular masturbation promotes a healthy prostate?

What was wrong with telling them that they'll go blind, wasn't that working?

Penn And Teller's Bullshit has a cool show on abstinence. One billion dollars for abstinence "classes" in US schools taught by people that don't believe in teaching teenagers about and how to use condoms. That and scouts, that get payed by the US government, but the top people don't want athiests/agnostics and homosexuals in the scouts. I just doubt very much that most Americans would support this shit if they actually knew what was going on.

Sage · 06-10-2006, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aj_

What was wrong with telling them that they'll go blind, wasn't that working?

Apparently not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aj_

Penn And Teller's Bullshit has a cool show on abstinence. One billion dollars for abstinence "classes" in US schools taught by people that don't believe in teaching teenagers about and how to use condoms. That and scouts, that get payed by the US government, but the top people don't want athiests/agnostics and homosexuals in the scouts. I just doubt very much that most Americans would support this shit if they actually knew what was going on.

A lot of them around here are all for it.

Jatsie · 06-10-2006, 07:24 PM

Uh-oh, I was briefly a boy-scout, and I'm a godless fag.

Whatever would Akela say!

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-10-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jat316sob

Uh-oh, I was briefly a boy-scout, and I'm a godless fag.

Can I have your phone number?

Jatsie · 06-10-2006, 07:34 PM

Sure, honey.

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-10-2006, 07:36 PM

Honey.

Honey.

Oh god.........FLOWING HONEY!!! MMMMM!!! OHHHHH!!!!

AFGNCAAP · 06-11-2006, 12:21 AM

I'm curious as to why "masturbation celibacy" is that crazy, or at the very least, why it's considered more crazy than abstinence from sexual activities with other people. No, I am not one of them bracelet wearers.

But surely making fun of their rules, irrational as they may be, is actually against the notion that "why it is anyone elses bussness if someone wanks, its their own choice. Same with sex." No?

RLacey · 06-11-2006, 02:33 AM

^ I agree. I'm getting more than a little sick of people laying into pretty much anyone who happens to disagree with their own liberal views. And this is not me actually making a statement on the topic itself, before anyone feels the need to tell me that I'm a stuck-up, overly-conservative, socially-retarded idiot. Again.

And, before anyone cries hypocrisy, I also disagree with many of the views held by all kinds of groups. And I'd happily tell them my own opinion on a wide variety of issues. What I will not do, though, is start laying into things like religion in general just because a few particularly zealous people hold views that I don't agree with.

View Poll Results: When did you start to masturbate????
0-10 yrs	17	17.17%
10-15 yrs	66	66.67%
15-20 yrs	10	10.10%
I DON'T DO IT - ITS DISGUSTING!	6	6.06%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

06-08-2006, 06:47 PM	#102
Sage Bad Influence Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Birmingham, Alabama USA Posts: 5,547	C'mon guys, can't we have a nice thread about masturbation without someone dragging religion in to it? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Ignorance is bliss, denial is divine, and willful ignorance is a religious experience. Share the love. <3

06-08-2006, 07:00 PM	#103
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Nope. That's the reality, masturbation has always had a less than respected rap in our culture mainly because of religion. I mean, c'mon! You were told over and over again (in blatant and in subtle ways) that it's wrong, and that gets internalized to the point where...well, look what happened to Spiwak. How can you NOT bring up or think about religion when discussing self pleasuring? You can't blame Spiwak for naturally being aware of what he had to go through. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

06-08-2006, 07:23 PM	#104
Sage Bad Influence Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Birmingham, Alabama USA Posts: 5,547	Okay, fair enough. I'll give you that one. As I've said many times before, I had an atypical upbringing and things like masturbation simply weren't the big deal in my house that they were in other people's homes. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Ignorance is bliss, denial is divine, and willful ignorance is a religious experience. Share the love. <3

06-08-2006, 09:32 PM	#105
Jeysie Diva of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 1,402	I dunno, I was raised Catholic, and I'm not in the least bit uptight about sex-related things. But then, Massachusetts is pretty familiar with the concept of the religious liberal. I do find it weird that very conservative types get upset over the matter, though. You'd think they'd decide that having your young teen deal with their sexual urges by masturbating is better than having them deal with the urges by having premarital sex. (Then again, most very conservative types seem to expect people to have superhuman self-control.) Peace & Luv, Liz Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Adventures in Roleplaying (Nov. 19): "Maybe it's still in the Elemental Plane of Candy." "Is the Elemental Plane of Candy anything like Willy Wonka's factory?" "If it is, would that mean Oompa Loompas are Candy Elementals?" "Actually, I'm thinking more like the Candyland board game. But, I like this idea better." "I like the idea of Oompa Loompa Elementals."

06-08-2006, 10:47 PM	#106
Spiwak is not wierd Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,148	I didn't mean to start debates (although I do think the condescension towards masturbation is heavily dated if the Old Testament is the basis for it). It's just sort of a fact of life around here. You just don't....talk about that sort of thing down here, even though I'm sure most boys do it anyway. I know girls also do it but there are still girls I know that genuinely find the idea repulsive. I mean, in my art classes if something I was doing incorporated genitalia people (including my parents) would seriously ask what was wrong with me, or if they be male genitalia, question my sexuality (though perhaps they were just incessantly joking with that, I can't say). Not everyone of course, but people nonetheless. In the end it's only served to increase my fascination with eroticism and how people respond to it. Share Share this post on Twitter

06-09-2006, 05:20 AM	#107
Sage Bad Influence Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Birmingham, Alabama USA Posts: 5,547	Nothing makes a thing so attractive as being told you can't have it. If you don't mind my asking, where are you from Spiwak? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Ignorance is bliss, denial is divine, and willful ignorance is a religious experience. Share the love. <3

06-10-2006, 10:55 AM	#108
Spiwak is not wierd Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,148	Florida. Not even the wild and crazy southern part but Jacksonville, as close to Georgia as you can get and also very near some military stuff (Air Force and Navy, respectively). Of course, the whole city isn't conservative but most of the people I know are. Share Share this post on Twitter

06-10-2006, 05:14 PM	#109
Jatsie Lovable rogue Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Great Britain Posts: 6,378	I just remembered something curious I read a while ago. Apparently somewhere in deepest America there is a certain group of Christian whackjobs that take abstinence one step further, and wear a bracelet as a sign of their commitment not to masturbate. If they break their vow they must remove their bracelet and then suffer the "shame" when their friends notice. These people are so retarded, and didn't anyone ever inform them that regular masturbation promotes a healthy prostate? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "Jatsie is amazing." - Jazhara "My mental image of Jat is a gentleman sitting in a leather armchair, wearing a robe. The light in the room is dim and strangely he's not sitting in front of a computer, but next to a small, round table with a box of cigars on." - Jelena Gay-Nerds.com

06-10-2006, 06:15 PM	#112
Dasilva Hitch-Hiker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Mediterranean Sea Posts: 4,364	Thats true, how would they find out? Would they check if theres cum on their trousers or something?! lol. They're all liers! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Regards, DaSilva "If you don't get out of the box you've been raised in, you won't understand how much bigger the world is." - Angelina Jolie _ <Susan falls through the floor and gets stuck> <Paco looks at her blankly> "Whats wrong with you?! Lassy would of had a firetruck here by now!" - Susan Mayer, Desperate Housewives

06-10-2006, 07:24 PM	#115
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06-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#117
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06-10-2006, 07:36 PM	#118
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06-11-2006, 12:21 AM	#119
AFGNCAAP Dungeon Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 4,152	I'm curious as to why "masturbation celibacy" is that crazy, or at the very least, why it's considered more crazy than abstinence from sexual activities with other people. No, I am not one of them bracelet wearers. But surely making fun of their rules, irrational as they may be, is actually against the notion that "why it is anyone elses bussness if someone wanks, its their own choice. Same with sex." No? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ What's happening? Wh... Where am I?

06-11-2006, 02:33 AM	#120
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	^ I agree. I'm getting more than a little sick of people laying into pretty much anyone who happens to disagree with their own liberal views. And this is not me actually making a statement on the topic itself, before anyone feels the need to tell me that I'm a stuck-up, overly-conservative, socially-retarded idiot. Again. And, before anyone cries hypocrisy, I also disagree with many of the views held by all kinds of groups. And I'd happily tell them my own opinion on a wide variety of issues. What I will not do, though, is start laying into things like religion in general just because a few particularly zealous people hold views that I don't agree with. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

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