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It was like they run out of budget and had to wrap it up fast. Did anyone else notice it?

But it’s a good quality game from the creators of The Whispered World. In fact, if you liked The Whispered World, do yourself a favor and get this game because it’s closely to its footsteps. The only thing that makes The Whispered World a bit better is that it’s even darker in its main theme. Though this one does a better job at technical aspects and general complexity so it evens out.

Though, if I were to make a “business” criticism, they should better follow the “Episodes” model. The game is huge and it could do with 2 or 3 episodes on half price of the main game.

I also think the Episodes model creates a more “fan based” following and it promotes games better (more chances to see reviews about it too).

thinker - 06 July 2013 02:05 PM

if you liked The Whispered World, do yourself a favor and get this game because it’s closely to its footsteps. The only thing that makes The Whispered World a bit better is that it’s even darker in its main theme. Though this one does a better job at technical aspects and general complexity so it evens out.

Have you noticed the Moreye fish from TWW when you travelled in the between world of dream & reality in TNoTR?

I generally agree with your most of your comparison. They are both very, very good games. Both had great graphics (Background was better in TWW, animation was better in TNoTR) and music. TNoTR had by far the best voice acting in a Daedelic’s game IMO. I believe however that TWW is a bit better mainly because of its story and the riddles (Spot usage in TWW was better and more authentic than the spell uses in TNoTR. And I still don’t like the fact that the curson has already ready what you should do with each object in TRoTR. Seemed a like a cheap trick to me).

thinker - 06 July 2013 02:05 PM

The only thing that makes The Whispered World a bit better is that it’s even darker in its main theme.

That doesn’t make it better. We have enough dark games. Too many.

Though, if I were to make a “business” criticism, they should better follow the “Episodes” model. The game is huge and it could do with 2 or 3 episodes on half price of the main game.

Nooooooo!!!! Don’t encourage the plague of the episode!

Well, I didn’t say I’d personally like to see it, it was a business idea. It seems that episodic games get more exposure since people just review each one of them.

Zifnab - 06 July 2013 07:33 PM

thinker - 06 July 2013 02:05 PM

The only thing that makes The Whispered World a bit better is that it’s even darker in its main theme.

That doesn’t make it better. We have enough dark games. Too many.

Quoted for truth.  I’m sick of the “Darker™=Better” mentality.

I, too, also think Episodic gaming sucks.  Just give me a full game, and if it warrants it - a sequel.  Personally, I even hate watching episodic television!  I love Netflix because I can watch shows a season at a time.

Bt

I just finished the game and I have mixed feelings about it.

In my mind, the positive points are the artistic qualities, the graphics and music are superb and the voice acting is gorgeous. I’m not really fond of magic tricks / fairy tales universes, but Daedalic offers a very coherent world and I got some pleasure to explore it.
The difficulty is enjoyable, sometimes very hard. And it brings with what seems to me negative points: to resolve some puzzles, you have to use the “Spacebar”. I don’t like using an hotspots highlighter, so I was really really disappointed when after being stuck for a loooong time, I opened a soluce who told me : “press the spacebar.” AAAAARGH !!!
(I almost preferred the sound puzzle in Daeponia…  )

The second bad point to me is the flow of the story.

thinker - 06 July 2013 02:05 PM

Weird ending of The Night of the Rabbit
It was like they run out of budget and had to wrap it up fast. Did anyone else notice it?

I regret they didn’t “spread” it better along the game. I began to got bored until I reached the last chapter…

Small last point : the french translation has some typos and is not accurate. It even has a bug, an exit line is missing and you’re stuck in a dialog… Great.
So if you play the game with FR subs, make a savegame before talking with the night butterflies / papillons de nuit (4th spell).

To make a link with your discussion about episodic / full games (I prefer full games), I’d like to add about TNotR that it might be a long game (due to its difficulty) BUT don’t leave it even for a few days because the “quests” log inside the game is totally useless and you won’t remember what you have to do.

So, nice game but not the best from Daedalic. I really preferred the Daeponia serie.

I didn’t say “you must like what I like” so settle down. It was just my personal experience.

They both seemed - to me - being aimed to children audiences at first, so when I saw some more adult themes in them, it made them more interesting.

It wasn’t like they were thrillers and I just liked the deeper thriller. They were both quite light, so when one of them went deeper into adult psychology and deeper themes, I found it more interesting.

I don’t like extremities. e.g. my favorite balance of depth and light themes is in Gabriel Knight.

You could say all of Daedelic’s games are children’s games, except maybe A New Beginning. I don’t believe they are however. Maybe NOTR is set in an idyllic, anthropomorphic universe but there are some disturbing themes there.

It would be interesting to know how the designers see it.

Shimrod - 07 July 2013 05:32 PM

In my mind, the positive points are the artistic qualities, the graphics and music are superb and the voice acting is gorgeous. I’m not really fond of magic tricks / fairy tales universes, but Daedalic offers a very coherent world and I got some pleasure to explore it.

I agree. It was the execution in particular I found to be excellent. I find I can enjoy any story, dark or light, if it’s done well.

I also think a company should work to its strengths. Daedelic’s more serious, adult games turned out less successful (my own personal view - A New Beginning and Chains of Satinav were not my favourites) so I’m happy if they turn to more childish material.

I’ll agree that the ending felt rushed, but I suspect that’s only in contrast to the rest of the game, which was very unrushed and way longer than I expected it to be.  In fact, I told my husband to hold on while I finished the game and that I thought I had “about 5 minutes left” and it took about 45 minutes to finish because of all the video at the end.  So they could have spread out some of that info dump into the gameplay a bit better, but the only part that felt really rushed was the very, very end of Jerry’s return home.

Overall I really loved the game.  I didn’t truly expect a whole lot from it: although I enjoyed TWW it didn’t completely bowl me over.  But this game was really charming and I loved the world and most of the gameplay.  And I was truly impressed by the length and depth of the story.  The whole ending chapter at the first tree gave me goosebumps. 

Definitely one of the best new games I’ve played recently.

Oh, and I’ll join the ranks thankful this wasn’t episodic.  The length was something reminiscent of older games and really delightful.

The rabbit in this games title caused me to download The educating adventures of girl and rabbit.
Very funny, small, ags game.The “slapping” still makes me smile just thinking about it:)