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rtrooney - 22 April 2019 09:00 PM

In the case I mentioned, you can roll your cursor over the junkpile and identify where you need to place the circuit board. But not quite. Because dragging the circuit board to the location where the bull’s eye highlights isn’t good enough. It must be positioned slightly to the left and slightly lower than the target in order to activate Joey.

There are actually 3 different hotspots with 3 different descriptions in the junkpile. Yes, all of them are signed “junk” (hence they are located in what seems to be a junkpile), but it’s easy to spot a robot among them, and, as I mentioned, they have different descriptions (Robert says something like “The robot is rusty, but it’ll do”).

But I agree that the game is not much fun, especially when it comes to puzzles. I arrived to the stopping point, but had to use a walkthrough a couple of times when I had no idea what to do and no desire to explore the area and speak to everyone once again. That’s because the gameworld feels so empty and stale, and too many characters are just there to throw a line or two. And those few characters important for the plot development disappear all too soon.

BTW I also followed McCoy97‘s advise and downloaded the enhanced soundtrack, and it’s much better, gives a totally new feel to the game. Thanks! I can also see why BASS is highly regarded by some - with all its faults it’s still one of the better cyberpunk games of its time. Nowhere near as good as System Shock, and I like Dreamweb more (I know this one’s also a love/hate matter), but still a solid attempt.

TimovieMan - 23 April 2019 08:12 AM

And while it’s not something that’s apparent since we’re so used to it now, the concept of having NPC’s that wander around on their own schedule (Lamb especially) was pretty novel for its time, I believe.

RPGs did that years before, especially the Ultima series (Ultima VII in particular had very complex time schedules, with hundreds of people going to bed, waking up, working in the fields, shopping, hunting, talking to each other and doing all sort of routine tasks). Revolution’s “Virtual Theatre” is very limited compared to those.

I’m enjoying the game, despite having no history with it previous to this playthrough.  I like the humor and the hodge-podge of characters and their sometimes over-the-top accents, and I’m looking forward to solving the mystery surrounding Robert that is slowly being revealed.  The puzzles are a mixed bag, but aside from my difficulty retrieving the wrench and also realizing there was something I neglected to do at the terminal, I’ve had fun solving them so far.

I have made it to the next building. But saved and thought I would proceed after a nap. Which may last until tomorrow. I found some parts of this journey quite confusing. I had to revisit Anita, Bill Anchor and Dr. Burke at least twice each. With each of them the conversation seemed to come to an end, i.e. there was only one conversation option left, and it was something like “See you later.”

You visit Anita first as part of the Lamb tour, and she updates your card, but offers nothing else. So you wander and find either the insurance office or the surgery clinic. If it’s the clinic, you cant get past the receptionist. If its the insurance office, Joey won’t cut down the anchor. So, it’s backtracking time.

BTW: it was during this sequence that I ran into Lamb, and he told me he can no longer use his ID card. When I left Anita the first time I tried the updated card on the first stand I came to and managed, obviously, to change Lamb’s status to D-Linc. As a result I got to feed his cat and pick up a VHS tape. Not sure what would have happened had I not run into him, or changed his status. Would this have resulted in me finding myself in need of a VHS tape, thus requiring another backtrack?

Another FWIW, I’ve played many games from this era, if not earlier, before. Most of them in the era when they were originally released. (Why do you think I keep nominating FPFP?) And I found the things I don’t enjoy with this game equally un-enjoyable back in the good old days. Walking/backtracking, whatever you want to call it, was just as unpleasant in LSL2 as it is here.

But I will get through it.

I recall this game quite well when it was released. I got it on the Amiga computer. It was $59.95 in a big beautiful box.

Inside was a comic book of the introduction. Due to the Amigas superior graphics, this game was simply stunning to look at and a joy to play. NO pixel hunting.

If I was to play this game today on an Amiga computer, it would still be a joy to play. The game IS one of the top 100 games ever released, I am having a ball playing it.

The end of this game comes out of left field and is worth getting too. One of the best in its day and still worth experiencing today.

I want to thank Soccerdude for hosting this CPT, the game is amazing and captivating. I especially like reading Tim’s comments on the game.

TimovieMan - 20 April 2019 03:24 AM

TimovieMan - 14 April 2019 11:13 AM

[spoiler]He might have been right too. As long as we don’t find anything out about this Overmann, there’s still a chance we’re Overmann. Or at least our mom was, which could be why they’re looking for us.[/spoiler]

Nailed it!

Although that may have been implied early on because I seem to be under the impression that we’re Overmann since the beginning of the game (or rather since Reich was killed).

So I went back to an earlier save to check, and indeed: when we’re about to leave the furnace room, Reich comes in and specifically calls us Overmann.
We then use that name as a lead, but not as our own identity until we get confirmation through those decrypted documents.

Note to Foster: if you don’t know what’s going on, and someone that came looking for you specifically then calls you “Overmann”, chances are pretty good that you really are Overmann, especially if you don’t know your birth name!


In other words: so much for me making theories about things that were not only implied but outright stated.
I need to be paying more attention…

Nap is over, but I have lots of stuff I need to do before I get back to the game. I think I am about ready to enter a difficult area that I have read about in some of the spoilers.

Not sure whether I should just look at a WT or try it on my own.

I say try it on your own and then if you get stuck, hit a WT.

That’s what I have always done. I hate spending days wandering around aimlessly.

At least WTs are free now, back when this game first came out they were $14.95 and well worth every penny.

SoccerDude - 26 April 2019 09:10 PM

One aspect that is hilarious in the game playing it today is how the future they envisioned: still had VCR tapes.

Hey! Some of us still use those

I was able to start the “document reading” puzzle sequence, but had to put the game on temporary pause due some real life issues. So I’m falling even farther behind. Nevertheless, I have every hope of finishing….eventually. Should be able to play a bit more by Tuesday. Frustrating.

I will say that the sequence puzzle I referenced above does not seem to be very intuitive. So when I get back to the game a WT seems like the likely place to go.

Haven’t finished this section yet, but I think I’m very close.

If I’m not mistaken, I’m to stop at reaching the wine cellar, so I think I pretty much only have to swipe the club owner’s glass and get his fingerprints off it.

After the initial “Oh no, Joey!, I’ve now been greeted with an “Oh no, Anita!”, but at least that caused the plot to thicken and the game to start becoming more interesting.

And what’s up with the [spoiler]Clone Army in the Jedi temple cathedral[/spoiler]?


Also, I shudder to think of this, but is it possible that Anita got “punished” by being forced to enter the reactor without a radiation suit because the other guy ratted her out after she’d spent quite a bit of time at work talking with us?
It certainly would fit the dystopian mood of the game…

Update: I’ve reached the stopping point.

Bring on the next part.