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Jabod - 20 June 2022 10:24 AM

I think all games should go in evenly and let them all live or die by as near a concensus as could be managed.

sounds right indeed

For many years over at Game Boomers they had annual voting for the top 20 adventure games.  Each person would submit a list of 20 (or fewer) games that they thought were the best, and the results were tallied.  It could be done here with 100 games, and compiling it annually would allow for the addition of new favorites.  If anyone thinks this would be a worthwhile endeavor, I’d be willing to do the tallying.

it’s worth every sec miLady, i will even help in any way if I needed.
it can start with the usual thread where everybody leaves his/her top 10/20, and we go from there?

cool initiative!

Cool, I am in!

But as I said before, another possibility would be a list of the games ranked by the star system of users reviews, with a note between 1 and 10.

Sounds like a nice idea, and it will liven up the community. Didn’t want to discuss the topic of “updating the top” as it was already discussed several times before, everything always comes down to personal preferences: “remove those old/recent/puzzle/QTE/Jensen games” (no, actually this is the first time I ever witnessed anyone insisting that Jensen is not worthy ). I remember some years ago Jack Allin said he was planning to update the top with newer games, but it might be better to leave it alone now as a memorial to the past decade. The Big AG was great, and so was a similar voting marathon from Just Adventure forums even before that, I think one of the Gabriel Knights won

Lady Kestrel - 20 June 2022 12:36 PM

For many years over at Game Boomers they had annual voting for the top 20 adventure games.  Each person would submit a list of 20 (or fewer) games that they thought were the best, and the results were tallied.  It could be done here with 100 games, and compiling it annually would allow for the addition of new favorites.  If anyone thinks this would be a worthwhile endeavor, I’d be willing to do the tallying.

Been giving this a bit of thought and I’d suggest a slight change to what you’re advocating Lady K.

Human nature being what it is most people are likely to propose their all time favourites (a good thing) plus their most recent favourites (also a good thing) but any list will, over time, lose old games that, although brilliant, can no longer be played on modern machines, and that’s when you can find them, thus consigning them to dusty notes in history. To use an example. Black Dahlia has often been wished to be available on modern machines (and before anyone thinks of asking and remembering me trying I’ve just about given up on that project) and sits in the middle of the current top 100 (from memory. Haven’t checked for accuracy.) but that will vanish because it is no longer played and can’t be played. There are going to be many more instances of this I’m sure.
Since the last top 100 here was compiled in 2011 I’d suggest only allowing games released after the cut-off point for that listing to, say, the end of 2021 and have both lists sit side by side for comparison. This can be done at a set number of years ahead if wished (say 5 or 10) and have all lists sit together.
Obviously, at some point in the future, there will be calls for an absolute top 100 of all time but that can be worried about when/if it actually happens

GateKeeper - 21 June 2022 08:54 AM

Jabod - 21 June 2022 05:59 AM

but any list will, over time, lose old games that, although brilliant, can no longer be played on modern machines

And that shouldn’t happen!
Every game is unplayable on some hardware combination, so that really shouldn’t affect any lists at all.

But is that even a real problem?
Sure there are few games that are extremely challenging to get running, but with DosBox and ScummVM you can run at least 80 % of all adventure games ever made, using all kinds of emulators, virtual machines and binary hacks may take care of most of the rest.

And how many people are going to the trouble to do that? Very few. It’s possible to do many things but the average Joe Soap isn’t going to bother. They just hope someone else will do the work for them.

meteor - 21 June 2022 09:09 AM

Would you be able to come up with 100 new good adventures within this time? It’s easier to achieve (if you don’t care about quality) because you don’t have to balance older and newer games.

In my opinion the spirit of the list should be ‘This are the top 100 adventures, recommended playing today’. Games which fall out are still mentioned in the old list, so, they don’t get lost. If needed, you could enlarge the list to the top 123 in the future.

Anyway. I would get rid of a ranking because it pretends to be something which it is not. You might rank games just in zones (7,8,9,10 ratings) though.

People don’t look back. It;‘s that simple. Nowadays everything is now!

And you’re being terribly snobbish with your “If you don’t care about quality” remark. Things are subjective and what you think of as poor quality x number of others would think of as absolutely brilliant.