[Little Writer]

Hey, you started already! Go away for a few days and see what happens LOL! Don't yet have a copy, so can't join in the fun yet.

[cbman]

I'd never heard of this game but it sounded good so i'm giving it a go.

I could only find a Russian version of the game but the documents and conversation transcripts are in english so I can make out enough of the story to just about know what is going on, although i'm sure i'm missing out on a lot of the wit and charm. A lot of the humour is visual though and even the spoken stuff you can kind of infer. The main character reminds me of Gabriel Knight, which I find very amusing (and the Myst Stoneship in the toilet bowl).

It's a pretty cool little game and has had me laughing quite a lot, despite the language problem. I've only played through to the castle entrance so far but I couldn't find the save game on the Russian menu and in looking for it accidentaly exited the game! So I need to redo the apartment (not really a problem but i'm not 100% sure I know what I did to progress from it in the first place!). Therefore, the menu screenshot posted on page 1 of this thread is very much appreciated! Can anyone confirm for me that the save game button is the same one on the Russian menu?


Fien: is this Russian version of the game the one with most nudity?


Oh, and I am on windows 7 and having no problems, by the way. And my technical knowledge of computers is terrible.

[Fien]

Originally Posted by cbman

Fien: is this Russian version of the game the one with most nudity?

I don't think so. The Russian 18+ version is one disc: Gary's apartment only, no castle. And it really is softporn, not much else. AFAIK, the Russian 16+ version is exactly the same as the English one. I played it for a while out of curiosity, didn't finish it. The English Gary sounded much, much better in my humble opinion.

Arial Type can probably give you more info, he's Russian and has played GAG. He said he would participate in the playthrough.

I'm sending you a PM.

PS: Sorry, I don't remember where the save button is, it's been years since I played both Russian versions.

[crabapple]

Originally Posted by zobraks

I read somewhere that there's a problem with disc-swapping in GAG, so the best way to play it (if you have two or more CD/DVD drives on your computer) is with both CDs in drives. I play GAG with disc images mounted in two virtual drives, so it plays fast and safe.

I'm using virtual drive images too. But I found if I tried to play Gagboy before I got far enough within the castle grounds that it wouldn't play. The game wouldn't crash, but Gagboy wouldn't start. Once in the castle it played though.

Originally Posted by Luna Sevithiainen

Spoiler:

playing the gagboy should definately be beatable for me (made it twice to 64 points), but I would make it a lot easier for myself if only I'd stop intuitively making those male-male and female-female pairs

Spoiler:

I did the same thing. It seemed like the male-male pairs should work as long as you aimed them in the right directions. And there were certain female-male configurations that looked like they should work but didn't.

I think if Gagboy had been released as a casual game, the game developers might not have gone out of business.

[cbman]

Originally Posted by Fien

I don't think so. The Russian 18+ version is one disc: Gary's apartment only, no castle. And it really is softporn, not much else. AFAIK, the Russian 16+ version is exactly the same as the English one. I played it for a while out of curiosity, didn't finish it. The English Gary sounded much, much better in my humble opinion.

Arial Type can probably give you more info, he's Russian and has played GAG. He said he would participate in the playthrough.

I'm sending you a PM.

PS: Sorry, I don't remember where the save button is, it's been years since I played both Russian versions.

Ah, okay. Thanks a lot!

[zobraks]

Originally Posted by crabapple

I'm using virtual drive images too. But I found if I tried to play Gagboy before I got far enough within the castle grounds that it wouldn't play. The game wouldn't crash, but Gagboy wouldn't start. Once in the castle it played though.

It scared me to read Gagboy has to be played as soon as one enters the castle since I was already roaming around it for a while, but I managed to start it. The actual gameplay doesn't look promising (for me) though:


As you can see, I suck (a lot) at this and what these boys and gals do is not exactly the Kama Sutra.

Originally Posted by crabapple

I think if Gagboy had been released as a casual game, the game developers might not have gone out of business.

It was released separately, but as a freeware. Here it is.

[Arial Type]

Originally Posted by Fien

The Russian 18+ version is one disc: Gary's apartment only, no castle. And it really is softporn, not much else. AFAIK, the Russian 16+ version is exactly the same as the English one.

That's right. Both English and Russian versions have the same annoying penguin and the same (at least I think) menus. Since the game was very popular in Russia, Auric Vision released the uncensored time-killer to gain quick money.

About voices: the character of Gary was actually played and voiced by the main designer and producer of GAG Alexandre Kopov. Since he lacks the talent of Chris Jones (as well as 99% of developers), no wonder he sounds unprofessional)

Originally Posted by crabapple

I think if Gagboy had been released as a casual game, the game developers might not have gone out of business.

Actually, it was. I think even before the original GAG. And the reason Zes't Studio closed its doors, as far as I know, was the financial crisis of 1998.

[Fien]

I'm glad I haven't lost my touch yet, although I would get a much higher score with a bit of practice. Up till level 4 I kept my gagboy screen nice and clean, but then I started panicking which resulted in this cluttered pic.

If anybody wants a savedgame for gagboy, just say the word.

PS: Zobraks, why don't you listen to Mom and start turning their little bottoms up. If your pic is for real, then you just sat there staring at the screen without doing anything.

[Fien]

I have played GAG more than once but I’m still enjoying it and I’ve forgotten a lot of stuff. The “Globe of Taiwan” on Raundryman Rao’s Rist was like new.

My favorite peeping tom video is the inflatable doll and the protective penguin is always cool. One or two jokes are over my head though. Can someone please explain the point of the chase in the “wet dream” to me. Is the rhino trying to catch a bus or does it represent a kind of desirable vehicle for the tribesmen??

Not many people will have read ArialType’s older comments, in my Potty Quiz:

Some interesting facts: the Zar game mentioned in GAG was a unique action game developed by the same Auric Vision. And the passage "Garry slept, but he knew that he should wake up at the first click of the mouse. That was a habit developed over the years" is reffered to a cult classic Russian movie Seventeen Moments of Spring about a Soviet spy.

And about Margot de la Bourbon:
I guess the character was a kind of reference to the 90th, when many young girls from poor families tried to marry rich criminals, general officers, MPs and such (there's no big difference in Russia) and then manipulated their husbands.

The bird from the microwave is one of my favorites too. I’m not sure if it’s a chicken pretending to be a duck or a duck pretending to be a rooster. Has everybody seen and heard it “swimming”around the fan? Easy to miss cause you have to look up.

[seagul]

I saw the flying rooster. But now he flew away, i opened the door.
Is this ment to be some kind of joke (perhaps a russian saying - or only an odd duck?) or will we met the rooster again?
The chase in the wet dream is something i can not see completely, because every time my game crashes after a short time. What happens? I only see the different party running around and hear this music. How does it end?

I'm sorry to say i'm still not in the castle (haven't had so much time to play yesterday). I hope i'm not the last lame duck. Today after work i have more time, promissed.

[diego]

I've just entered the castle

Yeah, i'm a little behind but you all know the story about The Tortoise and the Hare so i'll catch up with you, although i'm certain there is something more to be done in the apartment, like something about the toilet and the ship, since i only

Spoiler:

unscrewed the screw at the bottom, but nothing more

the biggest trouble so far was

Spoiler:

climbing the cupboard

and especially

Spoiler:

using the magazine on mirror

, although I knew i had to browse the magazine in some way.


But overall, difficulty is just about right, spiced-up with constant red herrings. Indeed, i'd wish for a color inventory icons to ease the things but you get used to it. Afterall, it's easier when you know you can't combine items in a traditional way.

Originally Posted by Luna Sevithiainen

I like the way your environment responds to mouseclicks (especially the posters )

yes, and it's a good thing it's also not turning into mindless click-fest, since it's all more-or-less conected to the story with Gary's comments

Originally Posted by seagul

...and Phantasmagoria.

yea , you need to click on mirror 3 times i think. For those who didn't play Phantasmagoria, it's a reference to Adrienne who on occasions makes her hair in front of mirror

Originally Posted by seagul

I'm a bit disappointed that the content is really mild.

but sometimes "less is better" but yes, i want my money back and also i wanna kill that penguin

Originally Posted by zobraks

It never happened to me in all my days of adventuring.

what, you never loaded saved game only to find yourself at the beginning of the game? Pfff.. amateur! But i'm really the guilty party here since i had only one save game at a time (or even maybe i overrode it by accident ) but i had no other technical difficulties, beside that i need to play in windowed mode in order to alt-tab the game since in full-screen it would soon go black

Originally Posted by cbman

The main character reminds me of Gabriel Knight, which I find very amusing

yeap, and when i first saw Gary i thought - he reminds me of someone, other than a typical heavy-metal singer There's also an actor Branko Djuric, who had a popular comedy show in ex-Yugoslavia (which practically foretold everything that will happen politically in these areas) and Gary reminds me of him too.

Originally Posted by Fien

The “Globe of Taiwan” on Raundryman Rao’s Rist was like new.

Yeap, i really wanted that globe. Even more than that final "equipment" on list

Originally Posted by Fien

and the protective penguin is always cool

Originally Posted by Fien

Can someone please explain the point of the chase in the “wet dream” to me. Is the rhino trying to catch a bus or does it represent a kind of desirable vehicle for the tribesmen??

The point is probably - there is no point, it's like looking at high piece of art where you can't describe it but you know it's brilliant or MAYBE, they smoked the same stuff as those Disney guys I think i could almost hear:

I can stand the sight of tribes
Even double-decker bus
But miniature rhinoceros is really too much for me

But if we're really to make some logic out of it Gary is probably a formula race maniac





so, the driving motive is a formula car and race of some sort
but other than that, no i have no explanation for the rest of it

[Luna Sevithiainen]

Originally Posted by seagul

The chase in the wet dream is something i can not see completely, because every time my game crashes after a short time. What happens? I only see the different party running around and hear this music. How does it end?

It is, on top of my head (I am not behind my GAG-pc at the moment, so I can't look it up) racing cars, followed by tribesmen chasing a rhino and a rhino chasing tribesmen, followed by a bus, something along those lines. At the end the sequence just repeats itself.
I still don't really get why they call it a wet dream. The prespiration of all the running maybe? I'd classify it as a weird dream instead

Originally Posted by seagul

I'm sorry to say i'm still not in the castle (haven't had so much time to play yesterday). I hope i'm not the last lame duck. Today after work i have more time, promissed.

But we'd only continue next Monday, right? So you still have some time left to play it. Besides, it would be a pity to rush through it.

[zobraks]

Originally Posted by Fien

I'm glad I haven't lost my touch yet, although I would get a much higher score with a bit of practice.

Hehe, you know the works.

Originally Posted by Fien

If anybody wants a saved game for gagboy, just say the word.

I'm not giving up yet.

Originally Posted by Fien

PS: Zobraks, why don't you listen to Mom and start turning their little bottoms up.

OK, Mom.

Originally Posted by Fien

If your pic is for real, then you just sat there staring at the screen without doing anything.

The full scale of the tragedy lies in the fact that I actually tried hard to make those people copulate.

Originally Posted by Fien

Can someone please explain the point of the chase in the “wet dream” to me. Is the rhino trying to catch a bus or does it represent a kind of desirable vehicle for the tribesmen??

The latter explanation seems more likely to me: here in my third world Afro-European country people always run for the buses. Even when a bus stops and there is obviously plenty of room for everyone around in it they rush, push and elbow each other . I almost never use a bus im my home town.

Originally Posted by Fien

The bird from the microwave is one of my favorites too. I’m not sure if it’s a chicken pretending to be a duck or a duck pretending to be a rooster. Has everybody seen and heard it “swimming”around the fan? Easy to miss cause you have to look up.

I started looking up only after

Spoiler:

... that balloon in the castle

, so naturally I missed the bird flying around the fan.
Can't say what king of fowl it is.

Originally Posted by seagul

I saw the flying rooster. But now he flew away, i opened the door.
Is this ment to be some kind of joke (perhaps a russian saying - or only an odd duck?) or will we met the rooster again?

Dunno. This game has a strong pythonesque feel to it (as Diego already mentioned), so the flying roasted duck/cock/hen fits in perfectly.

Originally Posted by seagul

The chase in the wet dream is something i can not see completely, because every time my game crashes after a short time. What happens? I only see the different party running around and hear this music. How does it end?

It ends randomly (I think) after the same sequence of irrational stuff (rhino chasing the Zulus chasing the bus chasing the rhino) is played for a while.

Originally Posted by seagul

I'm sorry to say i'm still not in the castle (haven't had so much time to play yesterday). I hope i'm not the last lame duck.

You're not. I also haven't played much lately (all of a sudden I had a lot of work to do ), and I only started roaming through that castle (two days ago). ATM I'm trying to play Gagboy without being caught by my wife .
At the and I reckon I'll have to show her what I'm playing, she's more dexterous than I am .

P.S. When I showed the false gynaecologist name tag to the Marquis de la Bourbon and entered the castle the game didn't ask for a second CD. Was it because I already had the second CD in another CD/DVD drive?

[Arial Type]

Originally Posted by Fien

Can someone please explain the point of the chase in the “wet dream” to me. Is the rhino trying to catch a bus or does it represent a kind of desirable vehicle for the tribesmen??

Well, that's how I see it: since Garry is impotent, he can't see erotic dreams (yet, mind you). So he gets nightmares. The racing track comes directly from the racing poster hanging above the bed. And rhino represents himself (as his family name is Tusker). I think it has something to do with Sigmund Freud.

Originally Posted by seagul

I saw the flying rooster. But now he flew away, i opened the door.
Is this ment to be some kind of joke (perhaps a russian saying - or only an odd duck?) or will we met the rooster again?

None I can think of - just some random stuff.

[zobraks]

The Unofficial playthrough became Official.

[Fien]

Originally Posted by Arial Type

Well, that's how I see it: since Garry is impotent, he can't see erotic dreams (yet, mind you). So he gets nightmares. The racing track comes directly from the racing poster hanging above the bed. And rhino represents himself (as his family name is Tusker). I think it has something to do with Sigmund Freud.

Makes perfect sense! That's the way dreams work, by association. You're brilliant AT. I never thought of Gary's last name as important.

Zobraks:

The full scale of the tragedy lies in the fact that I actually tried hard to make those people copulate.

Hehehe... Yeah, I can see you did your utmost to teach them your favorite Kama Sutra position: sitting-on-head.

Most participants have entered the castle by now, right? I feel we should give any latecomers a chance to catch up with us. So if everybody is okay with that, let's win the Gagboy prize and start the second part next Monday.

[Fien]

Originally Posted by zobraks

The Unofficial playthrough became Official.

I wouldn't be surprised if Andrea did that. But now the title should be official too. Rats! I can no longer change it.

PS: Seagul, you're right, we'll meet the chicken/duck again. Brace yourself.

[zobraks]

Originally Posted by Arial Type

... since Garry is impotent, ... And rhino represents himself (as his family name is Tusker).

I believe rhinoceros (with its prominent phallic horn) represents potency (it is a well known fact that many people believe the powder made of rhino's horn is an aphrodisiac - which effectively put the rhinos on endagered species list), so elusive for Gary . Gary thinks about 'getting it up' all the time (then Lucy will stop mocking him and he will have a chance to do something with her) and human beings tend to dream about the things they ponder a lot about when they're awake.

Originally Posted by Fien

I can see you did your utmost to teach them your favorite Kama Sutra position: sitting-on-head.

My most favourite sex position is a 'Mexican wheel' , but in a times of need a sitting-on-head will do fine .

Originally Posted by Fien

Most participants have entered the castle by now, right?

Is that from the point when Marquis...

Spoiler:

... takes Gary's gun and rides off giggling?

?

Originally Posted by Fien

I feel we should give any latecomers a chance to catch up with us. So if everybody is okay with that, let's win the Gagboy prize and start the second part next Monday.

That was the initial plan, so we should stick to it.

[crabapple]

Originally Posted by zobraks

P.S. When I showed the false gynaecologist name tag to the Marquis de la Bourbon and entered the castle the game didn't ask for a second CD. Was it because I already had the second CD in another CD/DVD drive?

Probably. I have drive images of both CD's mounted in an old version of Daemon-Tools, and the game never asked for another CD when I entered the castle or went back to the apartment.

Originally Posted by zobraks

It scared me to read Gagboy has to be played as soon as one enters the castle since I was already roaming around it for a while, but I managed to start it.

I gave up on it and roamed around the castle for quite a while before going back to it. I don't think it's critical to play Gagboy as soon as you enter the castle. I don't know what happens if you go back to the apartment and start doing more stuff though.

The actual gameplay doesn't look promising (for me) though.

Besides Fien's tip (I didn't realize you could turn them over when I played it), I found I could use the left and right arrow keys to shove them into each other before they fell all the way down. That became useful when I had a few stacked up on top of each other. I could take out one at the top or the middle of the stack by timing the shove correctly. I also used the Pause button on the Gagboy to stop them as soon as they appeared at the top of the screen so I could plan the best match.

[Arial Type]

Originally Posted by Fien

I never thought of Gary's last name as important.

It's just that in Russian it sounds more "exclusive")

Originally Posted by zobraks

I believe rhinoceros (with its prominent phallic horn) represents potency (it is a well known fact that many people believe the powder made of rhino's horn is an aphrodisiac - which effectively put the rhinos on endagered species list), so elusive for Gary . Gary thinks about 'getting it up' all the time (then Lucy will stop mocking him and he will have a chance to do something with her) and human beings tend to dream about the things they ponder a lot about when they're awake.

Yes, that's why I mentioned Freud

BTW, I also entered the castle (and a little bit further, to tell the truth).