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[Archived] Time for a new community playthrough?
Well that pretty much confirms to my mind that Ken Williams doesn’t have the slightest idea about game design. I suspect this was along the lines of the discussion leading up to the development of Lighthouse:
Ken: “I don’t get it. The 7th Guest sold 2 million copies. Spooky story with frustrating standalone puzzles. Then I make Shivers and it doesn’t sell nearly as well.”
Roberta: “Well, what did you expect? Once you’ve banged your head against a wall with hours of frustrating standalone puzzles, would YOU want to do it again?
Ken: “I see your point. Well what about Myst? People liked Myst. Empty worlds, portal travel, pretty vistas, nonsensical story. That will sell, I’m sure of it.”
Roberta: “Yes, dear. Whatever you say. If you need me I’ll be in the hot tub.”
Please put me down for Ghost Vigil.
And I expect this might be too late to attract many votes, but I’d like to see if Return of the Phantom is of interest to anyone. It is a game I have been curious about for years and I see it is now on GOG.
Loom (7) - Advie (leader), Vehelon, Donuts McGee, Doom, DCast, Sefir, Crabapple
Jenny LeClue-Detectivu (6) - Pegbiter, TimovieMan, Rtrooney, Karlok, DCast, Sefir
Lighthouse (6) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Advie, Doom, Sefir, Crabapple
Gibbous: A Cthulhu Adventure (5) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Pegbiter, DCast, Sefir
Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil (4) - Luhr28, Vehelon, Crabapple, Cyfoyjvx
The Journey Down, Chapters 1-3 (4) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Doom, Sefir
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (3) - Adv_Lvr (leader), Giom, TimovieMan
Maniac Mansion (3) - Luhr28 (leader), Donuts McGee, Vehelon
Creaks (2) - Pegbiter, Vehelon
Return of the Phantom (1) - Cyfoyjvx
VirtuaVerse (1) - Pegbiter
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
I’d be up for Return of the Phantom.
The truth can’t hurt you, it’s just like the dark: it scares you witless but in time you see things clear and stark. - Elvis Costello
Maybe this time I can be strong, but since I know who I am, I’m probably wrong. Maybe this time I can go far, but thinking about where I’ve been ain’t helping me start. - Michael Kiwanuka
...but I’d like to see if Return of the Phantom is of interest to anyone…
Never even heard of it before, but it does look very interesting, I’ll go for it.
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I wouldn’t mind replaying Jenny now that it has voiceacting, so one more vote from me.
oh wow, didn’t realize it came out without voice acting first. Just finished it recently and VO is top notch. Definitely worth checking out.
Don’t know how they managed to add voices. According to steamspy only 7000 copies were sold.
They are part of Apple Arcade and I’m guessing that came with a significant investment from Apple? Sidenote, there’s quite a few interesting games on Apple Arcade that are adventure adjacent and that I’m not sure would have been successful without that.
I’d also be up for Jenny.
Ah, good to know. I don’t play games on my iPhone, but I did a Steam search and found quite a few Apple Arcade ones.
PS: One more vote for Return of the Phantom.
Butter my buns and call me a biscuit! - Agent A
I don’t recall. When is the end date for nominations/votes for this playthrough?
For whom the games toll,
they toll for thee.
Well that pretty much confirms to my mind that Ken Williams doesn’t have the slightest idea about game design.
This is hardly the venue for this discussion. I suggest another thread be opened for a continuation. Ken was never a game designer. That was Roberta’s forte. What he was good at was designing game design engines and business.
For whom the games toll,
they toll for thee.
Another question regarding this thread. Posted to the moderators. Weren’t we supposed to archive old voting sessions?
For whom the games toll,
they toll for thee.
Jenny LeClue-Detectivu (7) - Pegbiter, TimovieMan, Rtrooney, Karlok, DCast, Sefir, Giom
Loom (7) - Advie (leader), Vehelon, Donuts McGee, Doom, DCast, Sefir, Crabapple
Lighthouse (6) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Advie, Doom, Sefir, Crabapple
Gibbous: A Cthulhu Adventure (5) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Pegbiter, DCast, Sefir
Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil (4) - Luhr28, Vehelon, Crabapple, Cyfoyjvx
The Journey Down, Chapters 1-3 (4) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Doom, Sefir
Return of the Phantom (4) - Cyfoyjvx, TimovieMan, Intense Degree, Karlok
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (3) - Adv_Lvr (leader), Giom, TimovieMan
Maniac Mansion (3) - Luhr28 (leader), Donuts McGee, Vehelon
Creaks (2) - Pegbiter, Vehelon
VirtuaVerse (1) - Pegbiter
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
Another question regarding this thread. Posted to the moderators. Weren’t we supposed to archive old voting sessions?
Yes. All except the current and previous voting rounds. Which is exactly what’s left here.
The archived thread is here.
And re: your previous question, voting ends on Wednesday, September 23rd.
The truth can’t hurt you, it’s just like the dark: it scares you witless but in time you see things clear and stark. - Elvis Costello
Maybe this time I can be strong, but since I know who I am, I’m probably wrong. Maybe this time I can go far, but thinking about where I’ve been ain’t helping me start. - Michael Kiwanuka
And re: your previous question, voting ends on Wednesday, September 23rd.
Thanks for answering Tim’s question, TimovieMan. I did post the date when I started the tally a couple of pages ago but was too busy last night to look it up myself.
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
I don’t think I’ve played a bad Microprose game, and based on the recent review Return of the Phantom should be worth a play. Sign me up.
Jenny LeClue-Detectivu (7) - Pegbiter, TimovieMan, Rtrooney, Karlok, DCast, Sefir, Giom
Loom (7) - Advie (leader), Vehelon, Donuts McGee, Doom, DCast, Sefir, Crabapple
Lighthouse (6) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Advie, Doom, Sefir, Crabapple
Gibbous: A Cthulhu Adventure (5) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Pegbiter, DCast, Sefir
Return of the Phantom (5) - Cyfoyjvx, TimovieMan, Intense Degree, Karlok, Luhr28
Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil (4) - Luhr28, Vehelon, Crabapple, Cyfoyjvx
The Journey Down, Chapters 1-3 (4) - SoccerDude, TimovieMan, Doom, Sefir
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (3) - Adv_Lvr (leader), Giom, TimovieMan
Maniac Mansion (3) - Luhr28 (leader), Donuts McGee, Vehelon
Creaks (2) - Pegbiter, Vehelon
VirtuaVerse (1) - Pegbiter
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
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