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Hope you don't mind if I respectfully disagree with you, Flux.
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If you get a chance in the future to get some first-hand experience at a medium or large company, I think you should try it out. You put some pretty stark contrast between the 'free-minded, creative, skilled, awesome charming little indie developers' and the 'huge international money grubbing capitalist corporate monsters that don't care about games'. Maybe more nuance would be better? There's a lot of companies trying to constantly balance commercial considerations with artistic ones, and to my mind that commands more respect than being some kind of game development unicorn that doesn't get their games published. Last edited by Marek; 10-21-2005 at 11:01 AM. |
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2) If he's not in it for the money, why couldn't he meet the needs of Autumn Moon, who needed a modest investment*, and a major partner and ally. Instead, they got little to no money, and Wolfgang saying things like "we should have fans make the demo instead of pay Autumn Moon to do it because it would be cheaper." It seems to me that money is a big issue with this company. *(modest in proportion to every other commercial game of the size Autumn Moon was making -- a size Wolfgang agreed to fund then backed out on or at least stalled on and balked at for the good part of a year, I might add) Quote:
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I really do not believe this guy has the money to fund any serious game developments.. I just cannot trust him.. It's a pity Autumn Moon got caught up in all that
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10-22-2005, 08:39 PM | #89 | |
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I repeat, Mr. Kierdorf would have to be an idiot to think a fan-made demo made sense, nevermind that it would be a good idea, and he hasn't struck me as being an idiot so far, although I'm guessing some people would be willing to argue with me over that. |
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10-22-2005, 09:30 PM | #90 |
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I have to admit, it really sounds like something he might actually say, but it sounds to me as though it would be more like one of his many lame jokes he makes where he gets too excited about trying to please the adventure fans and just says insane stuff. But I don't know, the quote is taken out of context. It could very well be that he seriously meant it, though, but without the context, it's impossible to tell. Honestly, it was probably just a stupid joke. We all know he's made plenty of those.
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10-23-2005, 05:45 AM | #91 |
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I don't think it was ever widespread public knowledge, but what Jake says is absolutely true (as implausible as it sounds).
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10-23-2005, 06:47 AM | #92 |
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And where did he say that?
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10-23-2005, 08:20 AM | #95 |
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The Mortadelo y FilemĂłn games (known as Clever & Smart outside Spain) have a rough multiplayer concept which lets two players play the game simultaneously, with two different characters (Clever and Smart).
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10-23-2005, 10:09 AM | #96 |
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Probably shouldn't have been stated publically - but the proposition that rather than paying AME to make their own demo - - Bad Brains pushed the idea it could be made by fans instead and in all seriousness.
The source is private, but it was one of the persons directly involved. Have to protect your sources and all that press stuff. And like Marek said, seemed implausible. It was "business decisions" or lack of them that caused me to have huge doubts about Bad Brains for some time. Not from lack of wild-eyed enthusiasm - but because they didn't seem to have a sound business plan or perhaps even a clue as to what is involved in developing, publishing and marketing a game. |
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Well, as long as we all agree that it sounds improbable. I'd still like a source, but if it was never actually made public, I guess I have to take your word on it.
Which, I guess, make Mr. Kierdorf a bit of an idiot. Still, I'll give any games BBE manages to get off the ground a fair shake. TO4 and TWW both look like they'll be decent if they're ever finished. |
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Over the weekend I came to the realisation that it was indeed a bit silly of me to put "indie vs. EA" so starkly up front, like it was either one or the other. I know you all understand that I certainly see the tight fits of Bad Brain's pants (haha, that came out so wrong, but I don't feel like making up another silly analogy). I just like the guy, also on a personal level, but certainly also as a colourful guy in the industry. Yeah, so he's doing some crazy stuff, but it's not like it's coming off of our time or money or something. Whatever the reasons and how it started, it seems like there's some interesting stuff coming out of their stables.
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Somebody should write the news on the front page!!
Edit: Rats, someone deleted Marek's post.
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