XBOX the evil machine? - Page 4

ConcreteRancor · 08-13-2004, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ3J

Sorry to bring this thread back on topic for just a moment, but I wanted to mention that the Xbox does help to perpetuate the adventure game genre. I, for one, was pleased to see titles like Syberia 1 & 2 and Broken Sword 3 appearing on the console. I am not going to risk bringing up anything about game politics, but the Xbox legitimately tried to break new ground in console gaming (with online support, voice communication, hard drive support).

Granted, the Xbox isn't the only console releasing adventure games. Farenheit, for instance, is headed for PS2 and I couldn't possibly be happier about that. But I think it's worth giving a smile and nod to Microsoft for supporting a niche genre, regardless how you feel about them otherwise.

Ok! Back to talking about tomatoes!

Cheers.

That's true. Microsoft realized with the X-Box that people like playing multiplayer a LOT more than SP. PS2 did eventually get some online support, but it came far too late to make a difference. And Nintendo seems to deny that the internet exists.

To illustrate:
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=75

edlglide · 08-13-2004, 06:10 AM

To be completely accurate, Dreamcast actually had online support before any other system. But I don't know if you could use it for multiplayer -- I just remember my friend being able to connect to the Internet through it.

Kolzig · 08-13-2004, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by edlglide

To be completely accurate, Dreamcast actually had online support before any other system. But I don't know if you could use it for multiplayer -- I just remember my friend being able to connect to the Internet through it.

Phantasy Star Online ver. 1 and ver.2.

Need I say more.

scabb · 08-13-2004, 06:43 AM

Chu Chu Rocket was the first online game for Dreamcast, I think. I remember that Sega would send it you if you went online with your Dreamcast and filled out a form. That's the price of a local call!!!

The multiplayer was awesome, but there was also an actual single-player game in there too. Buy it for your GBA!

Fum · 08-14-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SamNMax

Yeah. And real men don't bag on other peoples PCs (I know Dell sucks. I'm thinking of getting a something else). You know if any "real men" heared you say that, they'd kick your ass. By the way, can you actually say that my PC is, in fact, "crappy"? Let's see your goddamn specs.

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Originally Posted by Jake

No one is impressed. Keep it in your pants please.

Damn, I'm guess I'm not notorious around here enough for you guys to know I'm kidding without the need for emoticons. Maybe one day.

By the way, SamNMax, since you seem to be a bit sensitive about this matter (!!

!!), Dell is easily my favorite PC manufacture - for anyone I'm too lazy to custom build a PC for, I just refer them to Dell.

Glenn Epic · 08-14-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Ok I do hate Microsoft but for a reason. I think they limit the computer industry by destroying everyone in their way and I just fear that for gaming. Remember I did not say that PS2 is superior. I just said that and I quote:
"XBOX is in no way superior than PS2". And point 3 really has a point. The only reason why DOOM3 and KOTR2 and all those other games ship on XBOX exclusively is because of Bill Gates and MS's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Mario and Final fantasy are different than DOOM3 and HL2. The latter are PC Games to begin with and were not XBOX games. It was just to note the direction I see games going into.

Thats not true, developers publish games for the xbox because it is a superior medium in terms of graphics and sound, they have more options to play with. I don't blame them

SoccerDude28 · 08-14-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New_Order

Thats not true, developers publish games for the xbox because it is a superior medium in terms of graphics and sound, they have more options to play with. I don't blame them

If you want to talk performance let's talk PC then. I would love to see what DOOM 3 will look like on an XBOX.

08-14-2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fum

Damn, I'm guess I'm not notorious around here enough for you guys to know I'm kidding without the need for emoticons. Maybe one day.

By the way, SamNMax, since you seem to be a bit sensitive about this matter (!!

!!), Dell is easily my favorite PC manufacture - for anyone I'm too lazy to custom build a PC for, I just refer them to Dell.

Nah. I only throw a pussy fit when people say that my PC sucks.

Intrepid Homoludens · 08-14-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by New_Order

Thats not true, developers publish games for the xbox because it is a superior medium in terms of graphics and sound, they have more options to play with. I don't blame them

Oh puh-LEEZ! Get real. they do games for Xbox because it brings in the money!

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Originally Posted by SamNMax

I only throw a pussy fit when people say that my PC sucks.

BTW, did you know your PC sucks?

[stands back to watch the pussy fit]

Royal Fool · 08-14-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by New_Order

Thats not true, developers publish games for the xbox because it is a superior medium in terms of graphics and sound, they have more options to play with. I don't blame them

Any developer would want their game to have exposure on the most mediums possible. Of course, publishers and developers also happen to like money a lot. This poses some problems. Do you want multi-platform and hopefully spur sales but not get many exclusivity benefits, or risk sales and go exclusive on one platform and get more money and support instead?

Put two and two together and what do you get? A partnership with Microsoft. They paid a lot to get Doom 3 over on Xbox (With Live support for co-op play, something that will hopefully be doubled soon in the PC version). Valve haven't officially said anything about a definitive Half-Life 2 version for Xbox, but they are certainly doing something about it. They just want to get the PC version out of the door first. Microsoft, again, probably paid loads of money to secure exclusivity for Xbox.

These two games are milestones in PC gaming, and they are best represented on Xbox, even if the graphical flair will not transfer over fully.

Buy The Most Excellently Awesome Game Psychonauts For Xbox Or PC.

log p · 08-19-2004, 12:01 PM

after consuming a case of beer and being exposed to paint fumes for 24 hours, i predict that nintendo will get its hand out of its collective pocket, stop playing with its game boy, and again reign supreme in the console video game industry...so all discussion of Microsoft and Sony will soon be brushed aside...NINTENDO - the wave of the future

VoodooFX · 08-19-2004, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by log p

after consuming a case of beer and being exposed to paint fumes for 24 hours, i predict that nintendo will get its hand out of its collective pocket, stop playing with its game boy, and again reign supreme in the console video game industry...so all discussion of Microsoft and Sony will soon be brushed aside...NINTENDO - the wave of the future

eeem, you need to stay away from beer man

log p · 08-19-2004, 12:34 PM

yoshi was what ruined nintendo, man...yoshi totally ****ed the Big N...yoshi and cartridges...but mostly yoshi

ConcreteRancor · 08-19-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by log p

yoshi was what ruined nintendo, man...yoshi totally ****ed the Big N...yoshi and cartridges...but mostly yoshi

Except that the game Yoshi for the Game Boy rocked. At least it did when I played it, when I was about 10.

08-19-2004, 12:55 PM

No. I'm pretty sure that Nintendo's incompetants ****eded the big N.

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yoshi and cartridges

Well, I don't know. I kinda like cartridges. I mean, no load times...

Tramboi · 08-19-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fool

You have to be careful, don't drop it on your kids.

Stupid inane jokes aside, Xbox is superior to PS2. Maybe not the library or industry support, but I'll be damned... I play my Xbox a whole lot more than my PS2. And that's enough for me.

Actually, I play my GameCube a lot more than my PS2, too. Oh well.

Yes, so let's blame Microsoft for Netscape's marketing mistakes.

XBox is MUCH superior than PS2 from a raw technical point of view (no comparison possible) AND a library and tools point of view (I am a developer so I know

).
MS does the best for its developers with good tools and documentations whereas Sony's libs and samples are VERY basic.

And Sony is very conservative with its approvals (don't know YET about MS

)

08-19-2004, 02:00 PM

*Claps hands*

scabb · 08-20-2004, 07:35 AM

Yoshi? Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island was excellent, and those puzzle games weren't bad either. Although he is annoying in Super Mario Sunshine and Smash Bros.

Royal Fool · 08-20-2004, 07:47 AM

Yoshi's Island (SNES, GBA) is one of the best platform games ever. Cutesy graphics but the gameplay is very good and it's also really hard at some points.

Sadly, Yoshi's Story (N64) wasn't nearly as good.

ConcreteRancor · 08-20-2004, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fool

Yoshi's Island (SNES, GBA) is one of the best platform games ever. Cutesy graphics but the gameplay is very good and it's also really hard at some points.

I agree on Yoshi's Island. (Got it on an emulator.

) The egg-throwing aspect of it was a real refreshing change from jumping on enemies' heads.

And what are you talking about Yoshi being annoying in Smash Brothers, scabb? Next to Pikachu, he was one of the most satisfying characters to beat up on!

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edlglide Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 217	To be completely accurate, Dreamcast actually had online support before any other system. But I don't know if you could use it for multiplayer -- I just remember my friend being able to connect to the Internet through it. Share Share this post on Twitter

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scabb Kiss My Face Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 143	Chu Chu Rocket was the first online game for Dreamcast, I think. I remember that Sega would send it you if you went online with your Dreamcast and filled out a form. That's the price of a local call!!! The multiplayer was awesome, but there was also an actual single-player game in there too. Buy it for your GBA! Share Share this post on Twitter

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Royal Fool Statement: Not a meatbag. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Iceland Posts: 813	Yoshi's Island (SNES, GBA) is one of the best platform games ever. Cutesy graphics but the gameplay is very good and it's also really hard at some points. Sadly, Yoshi's Story (N64) wasn't nearly as good. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ .::Royal Fool::.

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