[Kolzig]

Originally Posted by MoriartyL

That is a very strange list. Super Mario Sunshine is not a good reason to get the Gamecube, Beyond Good & Evil and Resident Evil 4 are multiplatform (including PS2), and Pikmin 2 is nowhere near as good as the first Pikmin (which is wonderful).

BG&E for Gamecube is the creator Michel Ancel's personal favourite, and that's the version he was most involved with.

And like Lucien said, RE4 was originally made for GC and the only version that is even better done than that, is the Wii version.

[kndy]

Hi,

First: Here are IGN and Gamespy's Top 25 or top 20 Gamecube games ever:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/772/772300p1.html
http://cube.gamespy.com/articles/639/639689p1.html

OK, with that out of the way, is it worth getting a gamecube. Well, at this point of time, only if you don't intend to buy a Wii or if you keep your consoles and collect them.

I have not bought a Nintendo console (Aside from portables) since the SNES and recently with the Wii. Several months before I purchased the Wii, a friend of mine wanted a Nintendo DS badly and didn't have money. I figured I could buy it for him but trade me the Gamecube and games and he was cool with it.

Present Time: As mentioned on the Wii thread, I haven't played the Wii except Wii sports. Not many games interest me right now and for what I use it for..Wii boxing for working out or Wii Sports/Play for party games when friends are over. Also, for buying Virtual Console games that I don't really play.

So, I decided to look at those top 25 games list and because there are major sales on PS2, XBOX and Gamecube games at the stores, I figured that I could easily purchase many of those games on the top 25 without breaking the bank.

Needless to say that I found some cool games, quite a few not on the list. For example, I am enjoying the Naruto fighting games.

As for the Gamecube, it's collecting dust. All games and the Gamecube controllers, I'm playing on my Wii.

Now, if you can find a Gamecube cheap and don't intend to buy a Wii, it's up to you. You'll find a few (or a lot of) games that might entertain you.

kndy

[JemyM]

I played the first level of Metroid Prime. It reminds me alot about Halo. Halo was recommended by fans of XBox but when I played it it was a quite ordinary and not that spectacular FPS. Metroid Prime was recommended by GameCube fans and when I played it... well, the same. I turned it off after half an hour without even bothering to save the game.

Resident Evil 4 is as far as I concern overrated. It's not scary and the game is inconsistent jumping between areas that simply makes no sense which distance me from the story.


Having said that, I am amazed none in the thread have mentioned Resident Evil 0 and Resident Evil Remake yet. The remake is really one of the finest horror games ever made. It's a gamecube exclusive and it's worth buying a gamecube for that game alone for a horror fan. Resident Evil 0 is also quite good.

Another game to look for is Eternal Darkness, inspired by the cthulhu mythos. That's a real gem that scored 90-95% average among the leading internet sites. It's a game you never forget. The gameplay is insane, literaly. It's difficult to sum up how much wierd stuff is pumped into that disc. The character grows more and more insane the further you get into the game, which leads to more and more wierd effects that simply mess with the players brain. Insanity makes you hear whispers, cries, noises, the cameraview is messed up, and you even get faked errors such as corrupt TV set, broken gamecube or when you try to save you get the disclaimer "Do you wish to delete all save files" with the options "Yes" and "Continue without saving", everything to mess with your brain.

[MoriartyL]

Originally Posted by JemyM

I played the first level of Metroid Prime. It reminds me alot about Halo. Halo was recommended by fans of XBox but when I played it it was a quite ordinary and not that spectacular FPS. Metroid Prime was recommended by GameCube fans and when I played it... well, the same. I turned it off after half an hour without even bothering to save the game.

One half hour? You can't get a feel for the game within a half hour. The tutorial section up in space is nothing special- it's just to let you get the hang of the controls. You can only really start appreciating the game when the controls are completely second nature and you figure out that the shooting is secondary to the exploring. Then the game becomes amazing. But how long it takes you to get to that point can vary. I know people who understood Metroid Prime almost instantly, and I've talked with people who played through the entire game and never "got" it. Myself, I was only marginally impressed by the game the first time I played it, because I was approaching it as an action game. It wasn't until the second time I played it that I fell in love with it.

So a half hour? Not nearly enough. Plus, you've gotta stop thinking of it as an action game. Then you'll start to appreciate it.

Resident Evil 4 is as far as I concern overrated. It's not scary and the game is inconsistent jumping between areas that simply makes no sense which distance me from the story.

The story is worthless and it's not trying very hard to be scary. The value of the game comes from the diversity of approaches to its levels. No two parts of the game are quite the same, which makes the whole experience fresh from start to finish.


It sounds to me like you have a tough time getting over your preconceptions. You're trying to enjoy Metroid Prime like a standard FPS, and you're trying to enjoy Resident Evil 4 like the previous Resident Evil games. But you haven't played games like these before, because they're pretty unique. So if you don't have an open mind with them, if you don't wait to see what they are rather than judging them by what you think they should be, you don't even have a chance of enjoying them!

[JemyM]

Originally Posted by MoriartyL

The story is worthless and it's not trying very hard to be scary. The value of the game comes from the diversity of approaches to its levels. No two parts of the game are quite the same, which makes the whole experience fresh from start to finish.

That's what I hated about it, the lack of consistency. The environment was great in the beginning, with the run-down rural landscape with scattered villages and sheds. Then suddenly it broke off and you were running around in a medieval castle filled over the edge with extreme richness, a lava filled cellar, a working internal subwaysystem and huge walking robot. My mind snapped there and I had completely lost the immersion I had to the game, not to mention how misplaced the merchant system felt.

Had I been an art director for Resident Evil 4, I would have replaced the castle with a small mining town instead, traveling from the las plagas infected village in the beginning into more and more civilization except that everyone is still infected with the parasites.

Originally Posted by MoriartyL

It sounds to me like you have a tough time getting over your preconceptions. You're trying to enjoy Metroid Prime like a standard FPS, and you're trying to enjoy Resident Evil 4 like the previous Resident Evil games. But you haven't played games like these before, because they're pretty unique. So if you don't have an open mind with them, if you don't wait to see what they are rather than judging them by what you think they should be, you don't even have a chance of enjoying them!

I did not feel RE4 was anything really new or unique. Look at a game like Psi-Ops which follows a similiar design to RE4 when it comes to how areas are put together and how you aim and shoot. That was an innovative game, the story was not spectacular but it was consistent with some nice twists and the mechanics was quite different.

[Spiwak]

Originally Posted by JemyM

I did not feel RE4 was anything really new or unique. Look at a game like Psi-Ops which follows a similiar design to RE4 when it comes to how areas are put together and how you aim and shoot. That was an innovative game, the story was not spectacular but it was consistent with some nice twists and the mechanics was quite different.

I was just reading about how that game lifted many of its ideas from some screenplay written ten years ago. Innovative, eh?

(not an argument starter, just found the story interesting)

[MoriartyL]

What screenplay? Where did you hear this?

[Spiwak]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/p...pdates;title;1

[JemyM]

I thought we were talking about gameplay, not about story. If anything Psi-Ops borrows from Jedi Outcast even if it takes the mechanics a few steps further.

[Spiwak]

I realize that. Hence why I said it wasn't for argumentative purposes.

[wilco]

I got a Wii recently, and started playing some Gamecube games recently, got Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil and soon Wind Waker.
Metroid is fantastic, I agree that half an hour in not nearly enough to get a good impression of how it plays. the tutorial level "feels" like an action game and it's an excuse to understand the new controls (which are great, by the way, I usually don't like FPS on consoles but this is working great). After she loses her powers and you first start to understand how big the world is and how to explore it multiple times with different powers, is when the game really starts
By the way, I think that the big action Metroid Prime 3 demo that was shown at E3 might work has the tutorial level in this one and the game could quite different.

Resident Evil is fun but I hate the controls

And to answer the topic, it's worth geting a Cube but I think the Wii is a better purchase right now with all the virtual console stuff and soon to be released new games.

[MoriartyL]

Originally Posted by wilco

By the way, I think that the big action Metroid Prime 3 demo that was shown at E3 might work has the tutorial level in this one and the game could quite different.

It's possible. I hope you're right.

[Spiwak]

I don't remember where but I remember reading that Retro is still emphasizing that it's a First-Person Adventure, not shooter.

[Endosanity]

I like my Gamecube. I wanted to play the RE games and a few other Nintendo exclusives and I didn't feel like spending $250 for a Wii just yet. Plus, it was $50. I was even lucky enough that it's one of the older versions with the digital output on it... too bad the connector cord for the digital hookup is just as much as the system itself.

All and all, I say why not? I was always skeptical about it until I picked one up... now I'm kicking myself for not grabbing it earlier.

[MdaG]

There are some games i want to play:

1. Metal Gear Solid - Twin Snakes
2. Metroid Prime 1, 2 & 3
3. Zelda - Twilight princess
4. Resident Evil

I guess this means I need to get a Wii... I'm in no hurry, I can wait a while my X360 and PS2 is keeping me occupied at the moment.

[ProggleRock]

I bought a GameCube about two years ago for $99 just for Wind Waker and Resident Evil. WW was great, and RE4 is one of the best games I've ever played, so that alone was worth the purchase. Then I discovered other gems like Beyond Good & Evil, Killer 7, Resident Evil (remake), and Metroid Prime.

[Endosanity]

Killer 7, a true gem amongst the Gamecube games. I totally dig that game. Sure there was a PS2 version but reviews stated it paled in comparison to the Gamecube version. The game is so totally out there that it was a love/hate affair. I, for one, loved it.

[Jaggo]

As good as the gamecube is, I wouldn't go spending money on it when the Wii is around, but to be fair, if you can get one for cheap and don't wanna fork out then it might be worth your while for a little bit

[MdaG]

Heh, my brother just donated his Gamecube along with all his games. He says that now that he's going to Colleges he won't have time or interest in it anymore .
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[MoriartyL]

Have fun!