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Jabod - 17 June 2022 09:40 AM

Charophycean - 17 June 2022 09:12 AM

Wow. Jackie Leven eh? Never heard of him before but that’s some gorgeous songwriting there.

For me he’s up there with England’s Richard Thompson, America’s Bob Dylan and Canada’s Leonard Cohen. He’s Scottish, from the Kingdom of Fife as he frequently declared.

Sadly died around 10 years ago but did see him in concert 3 or 4 times and he was really good.

Here’s an odd fact about him.

I think it was when he was fronting his band Doll By Doll that he was nearly murdered by one of the Dalai Llama’s bodyguards!  This was in Trafalgar Square in London and he came close to being throttled. The sad outcome of that was the upper range of his voice was damaged as was, thankfully to a much lesser extent, his general singing. Nice bloke all round as I managed to have a chat with him on a couple of occasions after gigs.

Yes, I can hear the Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan comparisons. Something heartwrenching in his playing.

I wanted to hear more about the bodyguard incident so I searched for more info, and what came up was that the bodyguard (same one I assume) took his girlfriend as well! Those Buddhists eh? 

Alright meteor, have to give it to you: you bring the slappers.

oh dear! I just learned that’s a vulgar term in the UK - I had no idea.

I think it’s mostly used in hardcore and it means a song does what it’s supposed to, it gets you moving in a certain way. It’s like saying something rocks, or goes hard, swings, is funky, this rips, etc. I think it’s the association with dynamics, impact and motion.

I hadn’t heard of the version you’re probably referring to and I can imagine it raises some concern. I will say this for foul language in the UK: you get weirdly graphic and, let’s say, physical.

Then again, cursing in the Netherlands may involve all sorts of diseases, so no judgement from this side of the pond.

Regarding the weirdness: I guess I was making a light joke to relieve the tension and it got lost in translation. I only just learned this is a vulgar slang word in the UK. Maybe that’s a lack of common knowledge on my part. I’ve never heard the word used with that particular meaning. If you don’t like it I have no problem not using it: it just means something entirely different to me.

Thanks for the heads up - not a native speaker, so I pick up the specific use and meaning of these words as I go.

It’s not a term I had heard in that context before.  In hockey, it’s an informal term for a slap shot.

As a member of the Riff Raff, I accept this salute.

Regarding the term: it’s one of those words that has some branching inheritance of meaning, but considering the derogatory slang interpretation: it’s always good to know this before you publicly embarrass yourself and/or others (twice).

@LK: I was thinking about that connection - could be the inspiration for the word in the hardcore scene. I think it might’ve originated in the Boston HC scene. Hockey was huge in those circles, wearing shirts and even gear on stage. Probably the biggest band in that scene was/is called Slapshot.

Lead singer and founding member, Jack “Choke” Kelly, grew up as a diehard Bruins fan. He watched Bobby Orr as a kid and was as a season ticket-holder at the old Boston Garden. He played hockey right up until his freshman year of college and was a defenceman with the now-defunct Provincetown High School hockey team in his hometown of Provincetown, Mass., on the northern tip of Cape Cod.

Just some highly speculative etymology on a wednesday evening.