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I’m at the stopping point, really loved a new kind of puzzles added on top of inventory manipulation.
Speaking of which, I still have some items sitting in it I’m starting to think I’ll never get to use, like a cage to catch an animal that I fixed. It’s not over yet, but from what I (barely) remember - we are heading towards the end.
I suppose I’m gonna have to look up all the uses for things I have collected. Still nothing regarding soot, Karlok.

I think that after meeting Jep suspension of disbelief is in full force, yeah. Then again, I can’t say I expected a serious survival adventure from a game based on the sc-fi book, after all, there are core events we have to suspend it for already.

With that being said, the overall “island survival 101” is actually pretty good here. Total ease with which Mina does things and her general upbeat attitude aside (I sure as hell wouldn’t be as peppy in the same situation), those are all solid things to recommend to a potential castaway. Just make sure to tell them - it will work, but it won’t be THAT easy

@Veovis - was going to post a question here about a follow-up as well. Or about any other Kheops titles, really. I miiiight have played Nostradamus, but I might be wrong, it was so long ago. Other than that, I enjoyed their Safecracker (that I replayed quite recently) very much, but I think that may be it.
Are you planning to play the second part?

And if anyone here did play it or other Kheops stuff - how is it? Which one can you recommend?

Doom - 04 August 2023 04:37 PM

As I mentioned, Return 2 is not a very good game (the original is among my favourite adventures). Voyage is great, although it’s a bit on the Myst side (it has all the inventory management and MacGyver combinations, but also logic puzzles and alien planet exploration, you even have to study alien language). Dracula 3 is another one of my favourites from Kheops and its lead designer. It’s a bit different, more story-driven and with less focus on inventory, yet it’s probably the hardest of the four. Nostradamus and Cleopatra had similar design philosophy, but they were written by different (and less talented) people and often felt a bit uninspired and boring to play.

Omg that’s right! Dracula is another one I enjoyed. Thanks for reminding me!
That makes it 3 for 3 (RthMI, Dracula 3 and Safecracker) from Kheops that I played and liked. I’ll definitely look into the Voyage, appreciate the comment.

I don’t know know why does almost everyone almost every time manages to make sequels worse. It’s like people attempting part 2 is under some kind of curse… Unnecessary tweaks to gameplay that proved itself to be quite successful is questionable at best.

EDIT: Just noticed that availability of Kheops games on Steam is extremely spotty. Some are there but most are missing, while the aforementioned Dracula 3 actually has “negative” rating due to, seemingly, missing parts of the gameplay while being sold as full game. That’s too bad, because it’s a pretty cool title, indeed.

walas74 - 05 August 2023 03:35 AM

Finally! I aboarded the Nautilus. I really didn’t get how to solve Nautilus hatch code. There’s no clue that the solution is adding the number to 1860, or I haven’t seen it at least, I had to read a walkthrough for that.

I think it makes more sense to view it kind of the other way around, that 1, 8, 6, 0 should be added to the random set of numbers you get. Already when fiddling around with the puzzle I noticed that the fourth light got green when I didn’t change the fourth random number (since the fourth number in 1860 is a zero). Really didn’t feel like I was missing a clue here (and I never noticed that we have a clue in a note!).

DCast - 04 August 2023 04:35 PM

@Veovis - was going to post a question here about a follow-up as well. Or about any other Kheops titles, really. I miiiight have played Nostradamus, but I might be wrong, it was so long ago. Other than that, I enjoyed their Safecracker (that I replayed quite recently) very much, but I think that may be it.
Are you planning to play the second part?

And if anyone here did play it or other Kheops stuff - how is it? Which one can you recommend?

I had planned to play RtMI2 but after reading Doom’s warning I’m not exactly looking forward to it anymore… We’ll see.

I’ve played a few games by Kheops. Egypt 3 and Cleopatra were both terrible IIRC. In the same vein as those 90’s “edutainment” games from Cryo Interactive that I really don’t care for at all. I actually think Kheops was kind of a revamp of Cryo, with many of the same people employed.

Echo: Secrets of the Lost Cavern is kind of in the same edutainment style and I didn’t like that one much either, but I think others do. IIRC it has the same kind of gameplay as RtMI. Lots of experimentation with inventory item combinations.

The Secrets of Da Vinci: The Forbidden Manuscript and Nostradamus: The Last Prophecy were not too bad. More of the same Inventory Puzzling Concept IIRC. I remember enjoying those games ok.

I agree with others here that Dracula 3 is really good. I haven’t played Voyage (Journey to the Moon here in Europe) or Safecracker (wasn’t that a remake of the game with the same name from the 90’s, developed by the same people behind Traitors Gate?).

I also think Kheops was partly involved in The Crystal Key 2. That was a big mess of a game if memory serves.

As someone else mentioned, be careful with these titles if you buy and download from Steam etc. Some are horribly simplified to suit portable devices. Be sure to find the untampered versions.

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Karlok - 06 August 2023 08:48 AM

diego - 06 August 2023 02:53 AM

I know I said there’re no dead ends, but I may have found one - while replaying the first part of the game to check things about the score, I wasted all the coconuts I got at the beginning by smashing and spilling them. I ate all the other food (isn’t it strange how much Mina can eat?), and I was missing just one small portion of health. I don’t know if I missed anything (Eggs, Coconuts, Oysters, Crabs, Fish) but I couldn’t find anything else and I didn’t find the way to find more coconuts.

Why did you smash all the coconuts when the game tells you you’re wasting good food? Bad diego. But you’re wrong, no dead end. Even you can survive on a desert island.

Solution: There are 5 oysters. The one with the pearl (the present from Nemo later) is harder to spot, but you can click on it. Open it with your knife or heat it in the fire, makes no difference, you get one health point.

They give you a point when you smash the coconut versus nothing for eating it if I remember correctly, so there is an incentive if you are a high score seeker .  I would think wasting good food shouldn’t be rewarded.

Ok got into the Nautilus after destroying all the robots.
It was fun finding creative ways to destroy them. Some heavy spoilers ahead.
If you destroy one creatively you get 10 points. You can use the rifle as well, but that will only give you 3 points. If you use the bow and arrow, I think it gives you 7 points.
I destroyed one of the robots using lightning. One of them using the cannon. One using the falling branch. For the rest(like the one guarding the backward entrance of Granite house, and the one in the coconut trees areas, and the one guarding the Nautilus), I used the gun or the bows and errors. Is there a more creative way of destroying them? I also manufactured dynamite which you can combine with Jep, but didn’t know where to use it. Anyone used them against the robots?