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Doom - 20 October 2021 01:01 PM

It was also the last GK game I played, and I had a hard time pretending Dean and Joanne were the Gabe and Grace I knew and loved. I got used to them after all, of course, as their characters became more complex - it’s not easy to ruin Jensen’s writing Yet I still felt bad for Gerde - both the charaсter and the actress. She was treated by Grace like a scum and she couldn’t even fight back properly. I understand Joanne merely followed Jensen’s directions to show an overly protective woman, but I think she just overracted the whole time and was generally unpleasant throught the game.

I played GK2 when it came out and I had to adjust a bit too. I agree that Grace was being very unpleasant. I think I would’ve preferred if she wasn’t so openly hostile. She’d be polite enough, and then bicker behind her back sarcastically. That would have suited Grace better.

I also agree that the St.Kotar characters were rather unpleasant.

Overall I don’t think characters need to be very likable, but they should have some kind of factor that pulls you towards them or makes them interesting. If there’s just a cavalcade of bad characters, it will ruin the game.

Runaway characters were kind of unlikable and boring. I didn’t really care what happened to them. The second game was so boring I didn’t finish it. I played the demo of 3rd and it seemed a bit better but never got to play it either. Mostly because I don’t care - about the characters.

I also hate the Redman from Kathy Rain. What an ugly, evil man……I wonder how he will be in Kathy Rain, the directors cut…….we will find out soon……..

Advie - 19 October 2021 08:26 PM

Luhr28 - 19 October 2021 08:05 PM

Sonny Bonds - Police Quest series.

You’re a police officer. How much more unlikeable can you get?

HAHA, killer!

i still remember when they made movies where good guys were policemen.

Which PQ would be the worst offender? From what I read, part 4 should be a real piece of work.

Random thought: what if they didn’t involve all these “experts” and just let Al Lowe do his thing? I imagine something like the first Police Academy movie, but with more arrests of pervs, drunks and public urinators.

worst offender? what does that mean?, which is the worst or which is what?
i understand the meaning but can’t find the context, it happens with me a lot anyways.

Adv_Lvr - 21 October 2021 11:12 PM

I also hate the Redman from Kathy Rain. What an ugly, evil man……I wonder how he will be in Kathy Rain, the directors cut…….we will find out soon……..

Of course he was unlikable, but he was the perfect antagonist. That’s a hard combination to beat. Lots of games have unlikable characters, but few have that combination in a single character. The demon in Lighthouse might fill that role, but I’m not sure I ever thought of it as unlikable, just evil.

@Advie: it was a joke: worst offender meaning the game game that is the most heinous, but using a term also used in legal prosecution. But my English is a weird mash-up of British and US English, plus some stuff that just gets lost in translation. Add to that a very odd sense of humour and presto! VP.

The must “unlikable” character I actually liked: Cedric. I used to ignore the dude, but now I think of Baron Blubba and his love for KQ5 and I’ve embraced his presence.

Did anyone mention Baron Friedrich Von Glower? Usually I’d scroll back, but my brain’s on half speed right now. Anyway: my man Friedrich, another Baron, is one of the greatest evil heroes in the history of AG. He’s smart and charming, he has a real story. I actually wondered for a minute if he was the villain of the game, rather than..

the most unlikable character I actually dislike: Baron Von Zell. The whole ideology of their boys club is a cocktail of creepiness and this dude drank it in pint glasses. He’s the evil brother of Dieter Bohlen. If he were alive today, he’d be bankrolling alt-right influencers and shooting lions.

Was never of fan of Police Quest games, but “heinous” is a strong word. Do people really hate police that much nowdays? I remember enjoying PQ3 for its story (I think Jane Jensen wrote it, at least partly), with some very touching moments like when Sonny’s wife is violently attacked and you have to find time and visit her daily in a hospital, or she will die. There was also some solid detective work I think similar to the later Spycraft game. And PQ4 had that distinguishable LA atmosphere, I remember playing it back at school at the time when I was very ill, and it worked like a remedy for some reason - same as Tex Murphy, it made you feel like you were in some police procedural, with trashy dialogues and obscure “real-life” puzzles that would’ve never worked in real life, but worked just fine in that context. You could also interact with everything for some hilarious results.

rtrooney - 22 October 2021 07:13 PM

Adv_Lvr - 21 October 2021 11:12 PM

I also hate the Redman from Kathy Rain. What an ugly, evil man……I wonder how he will be in Kathy Rain, the directors cut…….we will find out soon……..

Of course he was unlikable, but he was the perfect antagonist. That’s a hard combination to beat. Lots of games have unlikable characters, but few have that combination in a single character. The demon in Lighthouse might fill that role, but I’m not sure I ever thought of it as unlikable, just evil.

I agree with you completely. However, there are some bad guys I liked despite their badness. The Joker from Batman for example and Bloefield from James Bond. Some bad guy antagonists just don’t cut it for me….the worst ever was Black Mask (Roman Sionis) from Birds of Prey, just laughable as a bad guy.