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This final part is long!

I think I just passed the (unintentionally?) creepiest part of the game: Lucas roaming an orphanage.

Next. Oh QTE spectacular action fight! This one really got me excited. Like most other QTEs, it did overstay its welcome. There was an awkward slapping match that made me laugh out loud.

The only misgiving I have is (possibly) coming off as if I’m laughing at the game, or the idea of liking it. It’s something I’ve had in the back of my mind since the first post and it wasn’t easy to find the right tone to talk about the whole experience.

I can see why people would put “Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy” in their top 10 list, or how it might’ve been a stepping stone: maybe on of the following works of David Cage has made your list.

Does it hold up? Some of it does. I’m glad I used a controller, it helped a lot. After a gruesome/interesting set-up, the plot got a bit convoluted, but not deep. Emotionally, it hit a couple of decent notes, a couple of sleazy notes, some cool, weird ones and some awkward ones as well.

What worked for me was seeing this game as video I rented with my friends. You went down to the video rental store, three or four kids debating which kind of movie we’d rent, the level of seriousness, or corniness. Sometimes we were joking around, just picking the weirdest title or cover we could find. This would’ve been the somewhat serious psychological thriller, with some low-key supernatural elements.

Then, fifteen minutes in, you realize you’re in the eye of the brainstorm and that brain has watched every movie you didn’t pick at the video rental store. Five minutes later, your bewildered stare alternates between your screen and the faces of your friends, who respond in similar fashion. Then you all have minor epiphany and you just roll with it.

It’s not a chore to play, the way bad movies are a chore to watch. I don’t want to see “The Room”. It’s not outsider-art, but it’s not completely schlocky either. So.. just art, maybe?

Maybe. I guess Duchamp would’ve approved.

All aboard the Cage train. Keep your characters semi-sane.

What did I like about the experience? The scene with the professor. The atmosphere in the diner, at Agatha’s, in all the different apartments. Some of the action scenes. Tyler. The first scene with Tiffany, though I’m glad I ended it the way I did. If I hadn’t, I would’ve rolled my eyes, solemn and severe. I’m glad Doom brought up Tiffany’s fate in this game: it’s probably my least favourite element of the game. Lucas, did you really hook up with Carla at the grave of the woman who died because of you? After she had been buried for.. half a day?

Dude.. your brother was right. You need help.

My favourite part of the game: Markus. That dude is legit. Role model material. Would’ve been cool to see more of him. Maybe he’s n excellent chef, or a brilliant interior decorator. Maybe he’s part of an inter-religious New York Hardcore crew. Or he likes knitting, or sculpting. I don’t know. Wish I did.

It seems I won’t be able to finish the game today. Final post, tomorrow.

Finished the game.

Even though I read about the underground mattress rendezvous, I wasn’t adequately prepared for the way that scene played out.

It’s weird that Lucas is quasi-dead? Life, death, it’s all relative, said the animated corpse of Agatha, taken over by the AI of the Purple Clan. It’s not for Tifanny, though. She’s just gone. Agatha as well, unceremoniously discarded and gone.

I think I got the best possible ending. Not sure if it’s what I wanted, or what I needed.

There was a lot about this game that was cool or fascinating, sometimes both. Other parts were eye roll inviting material. Or just.. plainly confounding. I had this expression through about 80% of the latter half of the game:

I enjoy these CPTs. Thanks for playing this game with me, everyone involved!
And a special thanks to Tenebra for hosting this playthough in a most excellent way.

I’m finished too.

I agree with what pretty much everyone has said above about the story descending into a mess of clichés and unbelievability. Really stopped me caring about the characters as any personality they had developed through the game (Lucas and Carla) just dissolved into nothing at then end.

I won’t recap what others have said, but I will add this: one thing that annoys me in games is when they stick a defenceless child in for no reason other to try and garner the emotions of wanting to save a child. This game must be one of the worst offenders. There is no reason for the child in the story other than to show the ideal of purity/goodness. She has no personality, does not speak, barely moves, and is literally carried around like an inventory item. (Yes, I’m aware of the word McGuffin but I just don’t like it! ). She could easily have been replaced by a rock.

Despite all that, I agree that the game was of its time and really does represent an attempt at something different, good and praiseworthy. It’s easy to forget how bad the stories in many other genres are, or at least were when Farenheit was released, and this game was a step on the road to better. As a hybrid it was also something that brought adventure game ideas back towards (if not into) the mainstream.

I’m glad I played it at the time and now and really enjoyed this playthrough. Tenebra was excellent, there were lots of interesting opinions and discussions to read and the game itself was something worth a lot of comment. All together a top CPT!

I’m torn. Should I feel bad about not being able to play the game because there were some really good things about it? Or, do the reported negative aspects make me feel good that I didn’t have to play through them? The general feeling I get from reading through the comments is that a) the QTEs didn’t contribute much to the game’s storyline and b) they were a major distraction. They always, to me, have been both of those things. Why designers feel it necessary to insert them into their games is something I would like to know.

I know the game was designed as a console game. Perhaps the fact that I have never owned a console player probably played a major role in my ability to use the proper controls at the proper time. WASD, arrow keys, mouse controls??? Which to use and when to use them? In addition to never owning a console, I don’t recall ever playing an adventure originally designed for playing on a PC/Mac platform that used this control trio. I was doomed from the get-go, but appreciated that many completed the game on a PC.

I don’t know if it would have been possible to port the game to PC using a PNC interface. Overall comments, absent the negative QTE, tell me I might have enjoyed, although not loved, the game if I had been able to play it using controls I am familiar with.

Which is a lesson I’ve learned. Read the Fine Print! If the game wasn’t designed for PC/Mac, it’s probably not a game I will enjoy, even if the game is great.

Finally, kudos to our leader. I can’t say it is the best I’ve ever seen, because there have been other leaders who have led difficult-to-lead games in the past. And I don’t want to make them feel disrespected. But this is certainly in the top five. If not the top two.

The mere fact that I am writing this, despite the fact that I was not an active participant in the game, is a credit to the leader. It was interesting from beginning to end.

Jdawg445 - 24 June 2021 08:10 PM

I completed this game when it first came out, and i thought it was an awesome concept that devolved into a complete mess by the end. Awful story, piss poor qtes and cliches everywhere. Really put me off of david cages games for a long time. I thought heavy rain was pretty good, beyond two souls was a huge step down, and I still have not tried detroit become human, yet.

I agree on all these points for this game. However I urge you to play Detroit: Became Human. That game is VERY good. It is actually one of the PS4s best selling games and highly rated. I’ve played it several times….we really need to do a CPT of that game now that it is out on the PC.

We don’t get allot of best selling AAA adventure games these days, so I’ll recommend it in the future for a CPT.

Adv_Lvr - 24 June 2021 10:03 PM

Detroit: Became Human. That game is VERY good. It is actually one of the PS4s best selling games and highly rated. I’ve played it several times….we really need to do a CPT of that game now that it is out on the PC.

Developed for PlayStation, and ported to PC. That’s exactly the scenario that made Fahrenheit unplayable for many. If you want to do a PS playthrough, do it. But do it as a stand-alone.

rtrooney - 25 June 2021 10:09 PM

Adv_Lvr - 24 June 2021 10:03 PM

Detroit: Became Human. That game is VERY good. It is actually one of the PS4s best selling games and highly rated. I’ve played it several times….we really need to do a CPT of that game now that it is out on the PC.

Developed for PlayStation, and ported to PC. That’s exactly the scenario that made Fahrenheit unplayable for many. If you want to do a PS playthrough, do it. But do it as a stand-alone.

CPTs are not system specific. I played Fahrenheit on my IPad and it played like a dream even though I have a $2500 dollar state of the art Alienware computer I could have played it on. If I want to nominate Hotel Dusk which is only on the Nintendo DS for a CPT that’s my business. And yes, I play PS4 adventure games on my IPad using remote play. I played Detroit Became Human that way and it was amazing.

I’ve only had trouble with PC games when I’ve tried a new release on an older PC. Then when I refreshed the PC the games played perfectly.

No where in my post did I suggest that you couldn’t nominate a non-PC game. My comment was the same as it was in the past, that nominated games that are intended to be played on specific platforms need to be identified as such when nominated.

rtrooney - 26 June 2021 08:34 PM

No where in my post did I suggest that you couldn’t nominate a non-PC game. My comment was the same as it was in the past, that nominated games that are intended to be played on specific platforms need to be identified as such when nominated.

Nobody nominates games intended to be played on a specific platform. For example, I’ve nominated The Shapeshifting Detective. I have only played it on IOS, for all I know, it plays like K@@@@ on a PC. It is the voters responsibility to determine if it plays on their system or not. But I BET it plays like a dream on a state of art new gaming system….