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Forbes Magazine Ranks The Top 15 Adventure Games
Beats me why a “game designer with over 15 years worth of game credits and industry experience” would order AI to produce a list. What’s the point?
I have no idea. I could be wrong. But sure did strike me as weird too.
From what I can find he is a tabletop RPG game designer not a computer game designer. 15 years of that doesn’t equate to knowing diddly squat about adventure games.
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Yeah, well thats the thing about AI, it cobbles together things that make it flow like a normal article but lacks context and overall substance.
You’re right, and that convoluted paragraph doesn’t help. So I guess it is an AI list.
Beats me why a “game designer with over 15 years worth of game credits and industry experience” would order AI to produce a list. What’s the point?
Well, I don’t know about that Forbes article or its author, but a number of media outlets subcontract out for listicles, et cetera with the sole aim of hoovering up search engine traffic. These ‘articles’ sometimes even include a fake author profile. The goal is getting incidental eyeballs on ads and not providing a decent or informative read.
Like I said, I’m not saying this is the case with the OP, but it is definitely a thing and speaks to a prevalent mindset among media organizations.
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Yeah, well thats the thing about AI, it cobbles together things that make it flow like a normal article but lacks context and overall substance.
You’re right, and that convoluted paragraph doesn’t help. So I guess it is an AI list.
Beats me why a “game designer with over 15 years worth of game credits and industry experience” would order AI to produce a list. What’s the point?
This isn’t the only place it is happening. There is a series of Facebook posts by someone/something purporting to be a discographer of Eagles music. It’s well written but, unfortunately, factually wrong. It writes that a song as sung magnificently by Glen Frey ... except it was actually sung by Timothy B. Schmidt. A song credited to Don Henley was actually written by Frey. And the list goes on and on. It’s obviously AI. But why? Unless the intent is to capture the names of the people who are criticizing the post for other, un-named ulterior motive.
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But why?
Laziness.
Instead of doing the work, have the AI do it. And don’t bother checking anything, because who cares?
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I get that it might be lazy, but there must be a rationale for doing something that is factually wrong. If laziness was involved, the “author” could simply have come here and copied the top the of our 100 Best. Plagiarism aside, it would have some basis in reality. So what was the motivation. Money? Did the “author” get paid? Was the objective to acquire names for a list? That would be foolish as list management companies sell lists for a few dollars/1000.
I just wonder what the motivation might be that justifies exposing yourself as an idiot.
For whom the games toll,
they toll for thee.
An entertaining article, although it’s entertaining only because it’s so bad.
The first few sentences are actually quite good, but then the artificial “intelligence” falls apart completely.
Apparently the AI doesn’t even understand what it’s supposed to do, even if we ignore the actual weird choices as “opinions”.
The alleged AI makes this statement: “The games chosen for this list have been selected as excellent examples in each category.”
The problem is, of course, that the list doesn’t have any categories at all. It’s supposed to be top 15, not divided into any subgenres or categories.
The final conclusion “The adventure game genre is alive and well.” is obviously nice. 
What!? No Doom Eternal on the list? Outrageous! 
That list is a trip! Clearly there is no proof reading going on at Forbes. I don’t know who Rob Wieland is but it must be a tough time being a game developer and not understanding the genres in the medium.
The Forbes thing could be better, but there are at least four games that I also have in my top list. In percentage terms, that’s better than what I get from ags top 100. I guess, you could have a monkey pointing with a banana at covers of adventures and the result would be better, more relevant and satisfying than the recommendation of experts from the Hadean. Monkey vs. AI, maybe a close race. AI costs less bananas, but monkeys curse so wonderfully.
The Forbes thing could be better, but there are at least four games that I also have in my top list. In percentage terms, that’s better than what I get from ags top 100.
Which four games? Only one in my own top list: The Wolf Among Us. Makes 6.66%. I bet it’s not in yours. 
I guess, you could have a monkey pointing with a banana at covers of adventures and the result would be better, more relevant and satisfying than the recommendation of experts from the Hadean. Monkey vs. AI, maybe a close race. AI costs less bananas, but monkeys curse so wonderfully.
The Hadean. 
Glad you’re back, we need more strong opinions.
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Well, it’s an opinion based on facts.
No. The Wolf Among Us isn’t on my list, just like the others from TTG’ post adventure games era.
The monkey in charge, Thea, pointed on these four: Call Of The Sea, The Last Of Us, Return To Monkey Island and Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
Fate is also on AGS’ list, but who knows, the experts might favor a punched cards version.
Four news ones I solved in 2024: An English Haunting, The Legend of Skye, Snufkin and CLeM and I had quite some fun with older ones like the Black Mirror and Tunguska series.
I read that you’re enjoying the Riven Remake. I guess it’s not a VR-Version.
AI can give some good (random) answers, but you need to be very specific with your questions.
I ran a little test of my own, and here’s what I got.
Me:
Here’s a top 15 of adventure games:
1. Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
2. Jedi: Survivor
3. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
4. Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves
5. The Legend of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
6. Return To Monkey Island
7. The Last Of Us
8. Control
9. Stray
10. Super Mario Odyssey
11. The Wolf Among Us
12. Life Is Strange
13. God Of War: Ragnarok
14. Call Of The Sea
15. Gabriel Knight: Sins Of The Fathers.Make a new list by replacing games on the list with better traditional adventure games.
ChatGPT:1. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
2. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
3. Tomb Raider
4. Red Dead Redemption 2
5. Horizon Zero Dawn
6. Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
7. Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
8. Ghost of Tsushima
9. Shadow of the Tomb Raider
10. Control
11. Batman: Arkham Knight
12. Spider-Man
13. Dark Souls III
14. Firewatch
15. Death Stranding
Okay, that doesn’t looks much better than the original list, in fact it’s probably worse. But then I ran another request, and added one more sentence to it.
Me:
Here’s a top 15 of adventure games:
1. Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
2. Jedi: Survivor
3. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
4. Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves
5. The Legend of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
6. Return To Monkey Island
7. The Last Of Us
8. Control
9. Stray
10. Super Mario Odyssey
11. The Wolf Among Us
12. Life Is Strange
13. God Of War: Ragnarok
14. Call Of The Sea
15. Gabriel Knight: Sins Of The Fathers.Make a new list by replacing games on the list with better traditional adventure games. Don’t include action adventures.
ChatGPT:1. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck’s Revenge
2. Grim Fandango
3. Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars
4. Syberia
5. The Secret of Monkey Island
6. Day of the Tentacle
7. The Longest Journey
8. Myst
9. Sam & Max Hit the Road
10. Full Throttle
11. Thimbleweed Park
12. The Dig
13. King’s Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
14. Tales of Monkey Island
15. Loom
I don’t know where the AI copied those from, but looks much better doesn’t it?
The critical thing was to instruct: “Don’t include action adventures.”
And the result was much more like it. We could run a few polls about the best adventure games, and the results would be more or less what the last list has. Maybe replace “Tales of Monkey Island” with some random Jane Jensen game, and it’s probably close to a real list.
Any thoughts about those new lists?
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