Black Mirror 2 - Page 5

Phod · 05-06-2010, 11:25 PM

Quick question.. in anticipation for BM2, I need to play BM.. never have played it but I have had it in the backlog forever. I have the jewel case version from Adventure Company. Does this have some heinous starforce DRM on it? For some reason I'm thinking it did. Just curious if I should go another route to play it. I'm running Vista btw... do I still need to worry about starforce?

*Fantasysci5* · 05-07-2010, 06:58 AM

Any downloadable version for an English release around? I'd really like to play this game!

Trunkyo · 05-07-2010, 07:39 AM

I'm getting an urge to play Black Mirror again, so I'll probably re-install the game later this weekend. I have the jewel case budget version from TAC too, so yes, I'll have to deal with StarForce again. Luckily, there haven't been any issues with SF on my XP system, I didn't remove it after finishing Broken Sword 3.

***Jackal*** · 05-07-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fantasysci5

Any downloadable version for an English release around? I'd really like to play this game!

To download, I think the only place it will be available today is the publisher's own portal. (Click to purchase, and you choose either boxed or download). I understand the download link is currently buggered, though, so you might have to wait a bit longer yet.

-Infiltrator- · 05-11-2010, 01:16 AM

The main character really annoys me with his comments, and the man is rude, to everybody!
This is not how the adventure character supposed to be.

He acts like some schools punk who dropped out of school at early stage.

millenia · 05-11-2010, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -Infiltrator-

The main character really annoys me with his comments, and the man is rude, to everybody!
This is not how the adventure character supposed to be.

He acts like some schools punk who dropped out of school at early stage.

I've only played the first day but so far I disagree. I like that characters actually have character. The guy is in early twenties, into grunge and photographing. Why on earth would he be polite and charming?

Overall he seems to be a decent guy too. Anyway I like playing something else than horrible goody-two-shoes. It's not like Gabriel Knight was always so nice either, with his mouth or his behaviour. Poor Mosely...

dekaneas297 · 05-11-2010, 02:35 AM

You 'll understand in later stages of the game why he has such a a character

Lana Cherin · 05-11-2010, 02:58 AM

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You 'll understand in later stages of the game why he has such a a character

That is if you can bear playing through to later stages.

This is one of the most tedious games I've ever played (had to click through). I haven't had to fire up a single neuron. Not to solve anything; or to take notice of any interesting story elements either. I mean bad, terrible, dismal stuff, folks. So bad I'd actually play a HOG any day over this. And that is a real insult.

Just utterly banal.

dekaneas297 · 05-11-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lana Cherin

That is if you can bear playing through to later stages.

This is one of the most tedious games I've ever played (had to click through). I haven't had to fire up a single neuron. Not to solve anything; or to take notice of any interesting story elements either. I mean bad, terrible, dismal stuff, folks. So bad I'd actually play a HOG any day over this. And that is a real insult.

Just utterly banal.

Totally disagree. Only chapter I was quite boring. The rest of the game is very interesting.

-Infiltrator- · 05-11-2010, 08:20 AM

The adventure itself is nice, I like it, same like the first one.
The story is also interesting, but the character, i just don't understand him, i am not saying to be a "goody-two-shoes" now, but his reactions are a little exaggerated.

kuze · 05-11-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lana Cherin

That is if you can bear playing through to later stages.

This is one of the most tedious games I've ever played (had to click through). I haven't had to fire up a single neuron. Not to solve anything; or to take notice of any interesting story elements either. I mean bad, terrible, dismal stuff, folks. So bad I'd actually play a HOG any day over this. And that is a real insult.

Just utterly banal.

-Infiltrator- · 05-13-2010, 12:47 AM

Well, finished the game, great one btw, they didn't spoil it like it happened with Still Life 2. (Though the puzzles and the game were way too easy.)
About the character i probably was wrong, he was fine in the second part of the story, no mean comments.

Hope there will be another part of this wonderful game.

terhardp · 05-13-2010, 01:11 AM

Finished it yesterday. I'm very happy with the game. The story is pretty deep and convoluted with a few nice twists. Graphic and atmosphere is as good as in the first game, if not better. I'm also very pleased with voice-acting, though I think the first game wasn't so bad in that respect.

I was pleasently suprised to see many of the notorious locations from the first game in this sequel. Since a good portion of the game is taking place in USA, I didn't expected that. But as the game is pretty long, they managed to do this nicely.

The game features quite a few puzzles, but they are not too complicated. Personally, I think this is a good thing when I think about the original game which had several very frustrating ones.

The official AG review says that the game finishes quite abruptly. I think this is and isn't a case. Almost all of the mysteries built in the previous as well in this game are satisfactorily solved until the end. In fact, I think that the whole story could be finished here. But I understand this was preparing the field for the next installment. If it will be of the same quality, I'm not complaining.

dekaneas297 · 05-13-2010, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by terhardp

The game features quite a few puzzles, but they are not too complicated. Personally, I think this is a good thing when I think about the original game which had several very frustrating ones.

Actually, I think that this is the only game I didn't look into a walkthrough at all. Totally logical puzzles. Also, the feature with the bypass of puzzles you can't solve is very helpful. I used it in the dreadful slider puzzle I hate

Vel · 05-13-2010, 01:43 PM

I won't complain that the puzzles are easy, nothing wrong with that, especially if the game is to appeal to a wider audience. But the fact that they are almost ridiculously contrived is a huge problem. I'd say more than 80% of the puzzles are just mere hindrances that have nothing whatsoever to do with the story. Sigh. I guess most developers won't ever learn.

millenia · 05-14-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vel

I won't complain that the puzzles are easy, nothing wrong with that, especially if the game is to appeal to a wider audience. But the fact that they are almost ridiculously contrived is a huge problem. I'd say more than 80% of the puzzles are just mere hindrances that have nothing whatsoever to do with the story. Sigh. I guess most developers won't ever learn.

I think 80% is exaggerating "a bit". At first you do a few menial tasks before the plot even takes off, that's just fine. Later on most of the not-so-directly-on-the-plot tasks are creating diversions or escaping things/places. I don't agree that they don't have anything to do with the story, though the puzzles of course could have still been better. This game however has kept me interested and hasn't annoyed me almost at all. There are loads and loads of adventures with way sillier roadblock puzzles, this game and the plot at least keeps flowing at a nice pace.

Lana Cherin · 05-14-2010, 01:38 AM

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I won't complain that the puzzles are easy, nothing wrong with that

There is everything wrong with that. If you don't complain about this dumb-it-down pandering, you've really opened the door to allowing for all kinds of mediocrity. And it manifests, as you see, throughout.

There is just nothing about this "game" that is anything but a good example of a bad (and ever-worsening) trend.

dekaneas297 · 05-14-2010, 01:48 AM

Too many "genius" trolls at the forum lately

Lana Cherin · 05-14-2010, 02:00 AM

Are you calling me a troll?

I'm sorry, I forgot to get in line. What's the opinion I should have? Should I just post a "+1" after your posts? Quote your posts and add a "this"? What about a simple thumbs up smiley at everything you say? I'm new here, so please do help me out.

SamuelGordon · 05-14-2010, 07:09 AM

puzzles are "normal" and logical and for the experienced adventure gamer it can be too easy (for me it was but doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it).

My only beef with this game is the ending and the horrible antagonist but i had a lot of fun playing it.

Spoiler:
Angelita and Darren being siblings was hilarious too, didn't they tongkiss? "Oh Angelita lol"

kinda funny if you replay it.

05-06-2010, 11:25 PM	#81
Phod Strategy Guide Author Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300	Quick question.. in anticipation for BM2, I need to play BM.. never have played it but I have had it in the backlog forever. I have the jewel case version from Adventure Company. Does this have some heinous starforce DRM on it? For some reason I'm thinking it did. Just curious if I should go another route to play it. I'm running Vista btw... do I still need to worry about starforce? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Currently Playing: I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream Currently Working On: Being Mr. Mom Recently Finished: The Walking Dead, Yesterday, Psychonauts, Fallout: New Vegas

05-07-2010, 06:58 AM	#82
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05-07-2010, 07:39 AM	#83
Trunkyo Beamin' Demon Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: C&D HQ in London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,005	I'm getting an urge to play Black Mirror again, so I'll probably re-install the game later this weekend. I have the jewel case budget version from TAC too, so yes, I'll have to deal with StarForce again. Luckily, there haven't been any issues with SF on my XP system, I didn't remove it after finishing Broken Sword 3. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. Jack Layton, 1950-2011

05-11-2010, 01:16 AM	#85
-Infiltrator- Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 24	The main character really annoys me with his comments, and the man is rude, to everybody! This is not how the adventure character supposed to be. He acts like some schools punk who dropped out of school at early stage. Share Share this post on Twitter

05-11-2010, 02:35 AM	#87
dekaneas297 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greece Posts: 297	You 'll understand in later stages of the game why he has such a a character Share Share this post on Twitter

05-11-2010, 08:20 AM	#90
-Infiltrator- Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 24	The adventure itself is nice, I like it, same like the first one. The story is also interesting, but the character, i just don't understand him, i am not saying to be a "goody-two-shoes" now, but his reactions are a little exaggerated. Share Share this post on Twitter

05-13-2010, 12:47 AM	#92
-Infiltrator- Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 24	Well, finished the game, great one btw, they didn't spoil it like it happened with Still Life 2. (Though the puzzles and the game were way too easy.) About the character i probably was wrong, he was fine in the second part of the story, no mean comments. Hope there will be another part of this wonderful game. Share Share this post on Twitter

05-13-2010, 01:11 AM	#93
terhardp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 291	Finished it yesterday. I'm very happy with the game. The story is pretty deep and convoluted with a few nice twists. Graphic and atmosphere is as good as in the first game, if not better. I'm also very pleased with voice-acting, though I think the first game wasn't so bad in that respect. I was pleasently suprised to see many of the notorious locations from the first game in this sequel. Since a good portion of the game is taking place in USA, I didn't expected that. But as the game is pretty long, they managed to do this nicely. The game features quite a few puzzles, but they are not too complicated. Personally, I think this is a good thing when I think about the original game which had several very frustrating ones. The official AG review says that the game finishes quite abruptly. I think this is and isn't a case. Almost all of the mysteries built in the previous as well in this game are satisfactorily solved until the end. In fact, I think that the whole story could be finished here. But I understand this was preparing the field for the next installment. If it will be of the same quality, I'm not complaining. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Recently finished: Yesterday Currently playing: Next in line: Not sure yet.. Looking forward to: Hitman: Absolution, Tomb Raider, Max Payne 3, The Last Crown, Bracken Tor, Sherlock Holmes: The Testament, Secret Files III

05-13-2010, 01:43 PM	#95
Vel Quo non ascendet? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 223	I won't complain that the puzzles are easy, nothing wrong with that, especially if the game is to appeal to a wider audience. But the fact that they are almost ridiculously contrived is a huge problem. I'd say more than 80% of the puzzles are just mere hindrances that have nothing whatsoever to do with the story. Sigh. I guess most developers won't ever learn. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ http://suzercatel.tk - For Dog Man Star lovers.

05-14-2010, 01:48 AM	#98
dekaneas297 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greece Posts: 297	Too many "genius" trolls at the forum lately Share Share this post on Twitter Last edited by dekaneas297; 05-14-2010 at 01:55 AM.

05-14-2010, 02:00 AM	#99
Lana Cherin Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 38	Are you calling me a troll? I'm sorry, I forgot to get in line. What's the opinion I should have? Should I just post a "+1" after your posts? Quote your posts and add a "this"? What about a simple thumbs up smiley at everything you say? I'm new here, so please do help me out. Share Share this post on Twitter

05-14-2010, 07:09 AM	#100
SamuelGordon Detective Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 66	puzzles are "normal" and logical and for the experienced adventure gamer it can be too easy (for me it was but doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it). My only beef with this game is the ending and the horrible antagonist but i had a lot of fun playing it. Spoiler: Angelita and Darren being siblings was hilarious too, didn't they tongkiss? "Oh Angelita lol" kinda funny if you replay it. Share Share this post on Twitter Last edited by SamuelGordon; 05-17-2010 at 07:02 AM.

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