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So the best a moderator can do to presererve his initially elevated level of authority (beyond access to some buttons), is to say intelligent things and make sensible decisions. And if someone unfairly criticises a moderator, well what a great opportunity for the moderator to strengthen his authority by proving the criticism wrong! If the criticism should have been appropriate, it was not the criticsm that managed to undermine the moderator's authority, but the criticised action of the moderator itself. "Responsibility." Moreover: Even if an appropriate criticism is only sent as PM, it doesn't prevent the moderator's authority from taking damage. Cause other people have witnessed the criticised action themselves too. And, although they might not have made an effort to voice it, they might have made up their own opinion anyway. Quote:
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Just look at any of the larger threads on this forum. It happens all the time, and nobody says: "Oh, you should have criticised/disagreed-to me in PM, rather than in public!" Now, I'd like to add another thing: The particular topic in question, is a pretty minor thing in my opinion - and tabs hasn't lost any of his authority in my eyes! And it speaks for the quality of this site and their moderators, that we can have such an intense discussion here. Tabs, if you read this, I respect you very much! (And that's not out of fear, but since I think you're a sensible person.) |
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You mentioned some other things, but, well, since I think I wasn't clear enough in the post you responded to, and clarified in the matter, I think you might already see my point in the next clarification post of mine? If not, I'll gladly throw myself back into the discussion of your points, but right now I think I would just repeat myself and give you too much to respond to. Quote:
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10-07-2005, 11:51 AM | #63 | |
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And I'd probably agree if you'd argue there's more important things to discuss about. (So I wouldn't even mind if this thread got moved to Chit-Chat. ) But I don't think it's a bad thing to try to improve something, which is already great, either. |
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I should say that I find public discussion tends to dampen any "political" behavior because it makes the moderators as publically accountable as the posters. Or at the very least it brings to light any lurking problems in the politics of the forum that need to be addressed. If someone has a problem with me *personally*, then yes, PMing me would probably be more appropriate. But during the times I am actively wielding a moderator cloak a disagreement with me is a disagreement with the way I am enforcing the rules, and I think it is better for a community to be aware if rules have been broken or if a moderator is not properly serving the rules than it is to sweep it under the rug and pretend nothing happened and say "Move along, nothing to see here." Again, my own personal experience is that problems which are not brought out into the open and addressed tend to fester and grow ugly. I think BoyToy also said something very good: Quote:
*ahem* I should also note that I'm not implying that any of this occurs or may occur at this forum, (mainly because I don't have enough information to make such a conclusion ), I'm just stating my feelings in general. Peace & Luv, Liz
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You know..........guys........if it weren't for the fact that I am currently taking a break from modding, I would have moved this thread to Forum Feedback. It is in the wrong place.
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I was out of town when all of this went down (sorry Jack ), and I hate to bump a thread that has simmered down, but I'd like to respond to this:
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You may think the behavior is being ignored or even condoned, when in actuality a mod hasn't even seen it. We do our best, but there are not that many of us, and this forum gets a lot of traffic. It's impossible to read every single post, so it's a huge help when people take the time to report bad ones. We may or may not choose to do something about it after it's reported, depending on the situation and using our best judgement, but at least that way we've seen it and can decide whether action needs to be taken. EDIT: Having read all the responses more carefully now, I do want to thank everyone for the honest feedback. Last edited by fov; 10-11-2005 at 09:06 PM. |
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10-11-2005, 10:02 PM | #70 |
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FOV, does that symbol flag a particular person or that post in that thread? I'm not sure how it works. I think I did use it once, but wasn't sure if that was the right thing to do. Does it tell you who flagged it?
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It sends out this e-mail to all administrators and any mods for the forum.
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It flags only the individual post and whoever made that post, Lynsie. Then a mod/admin receives the report and acts accordingly.
EDIT: thanks, tabs.
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Thanks for the explanation!
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Uh oh, guys. That winking smiley she used looks a mite evil to me. She up to something? Whatcha think?
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10-11-2005, 10:56 PM | #75 |
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hehehe - time will tell!
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Since it's not a paid position, does being a forum moderator count as "Time Served" in Hell?
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I think the "life" on this forum is a close as it could be to absolute freedom without falling into absolute chaos.
There might be the occasional abrupt thread locking or the very very occasional ban (but then, of all the people I've seen being banned, at least 50% has come back and he seems to be fine here now ), which I'm uneasy with, but seriously, what's a extremely small bit of uneasiness compared to the overwheling feeling of felling free? On a side note, this all JA_Staff2 thing is one of the reasons why I could not bring myself to post more than once or twice at JA.
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