[rtrooney]

Originally Posted by ConcreteRancor

Don't forget Magna Cum Laude.

Or any of the LSL games if you are going to include that one. The other LSL games were far from erotic, unless one considers an Easter Egg hunt being the "search for the nipple" as being erotic.

Some other mentions have been made about Phantasmagoria. There is only one scene that might be considered erotic, the rape scene, and I, for one did not think it so.

But to answer FGM's question, I certainly think there is the opportunity to introduce some erotic scenes into a game.

I can think of a number of games, Post Mortem and Black Dahlia being two, where erotic elements could have been included as integral parts of the game.

How many of the "cut scene to Maya/Inca?Aztec" sacraficial rite locations might have included some erotica?

Think it would be fun if one could download the "director's cut" of the game after providing proof of age and proof of purchase.

Practical sense says that the adventure game genre needs every customer it can get. And releasing "M" games cuts down on the available market.

On the other hand, there would be no VHS if it weren't for the porn industry.

Once people bought their VCRs to watch Linda Lovelace do what only she could do, the major studios got on board.

Who knows? Maybe it might take a major erotic/porn adventure game to get the industry juices flowing. (pun intended)

[marshal99]

There were sex scenes in both phantasmagoria games.

And there's also the deadly Succubus in Noctropolis.

[DasJan]

It's not in the game, but there is a lot of nudity in the Paradise comic book.

[Rapp Scallion]

I was so not ready for the Succubus-pic when I scrolled down. However I guess I can see why people get by those creatures... Some semi-nude Succubus and creatures like her are included in games like Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow. But that's not a pure adventure game I know.



As for adventure games you could sleep with a prostitute in KGB: Conspiracy, but you never got to see the act, and after that you were either killed or sent to Siberia.

[aries323]

In The Longest Journey, Fiona talks rather freely and openly her being gay and how she loves to be gay as well as stuff related to heir sexuality.

This is meant to describe or portray Fiona as kind of a free spirit who doesn't really like to do much...

When I talk about mature content in games, this is exactly what I would like to see. And I sense that many people who play adventure games (or other games) would like to see that as well.

I don't think that releasing M titles for adventure games would necessarily cut the market in half. Last year I read an article about how the gaming community are changing. Many gamers are now well over 30+, married and have children, and in a place like Gameboomers many of the members actually have grandchildren.

In fact, the article also said that about ½ the gamers playing adventure games were women over the age of 50. Therefore, a more Mature approach when making adventure games, will not hurt the sales of the adventure company. In fact, imo, the sales could well go up a bit.

You need to find your niche market - and then cater to it.

[Nautilus]

Originally Posted by Fairygdmther

Interesting review - Randy certainly seems nonplussed by the game, and makes it sound more like porn than erotica, but maybe that's just my take on his review. As he says, it was not released here in America, so I'll never probably get to play it myself.
FGM

Kamasutra is a great adventure, hand drawn by Milo Manara himself. No porn, only erotism.

The history is good, the voice acting are excellent, the images and scenarios are beautiful, and the puzzles are fun. The game also includes the full kamasutra book. The game is available only in French (bought mine when I was in Paris!). I do recommend it.

[Gonchi]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

The game is available only in French.

It was also released in Spanish.

[Fien]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

Kamasutra is a great adventure, hand drawn by Milo Manara himself. No porn, only erotism.

The history is good, the voice acting are excellent, the images and scenarios are beautiful, and the puzzles are fun. The game also includes the full kamasutra book. The game is available only in French (bought mine when I was in Paris!). I do recommend it.

The game is available in several languages, including Dutch, as I discovered after I'd bought the French release. (Not in English though.) But it's porn allright. Soft porn. Cartoon porn. Nothing serious. Fun porn, I recommend it too. But let's call a spade a spade... it's all about the Kama Sutra sex positions.

Go here and click on the cute little kittens to see some pics.

[SnorkleCat]

Well...I think that anything- a movie, a book, a game etc will suffer from any content that's just thrown in to please audiences.
That's called gratuitous content.
If something isn't a part of the story then it doesn't belong there. Period.
I think perhaps if writers and game designers had more artistic integrity, this wouldn't even be an issue. If it is important to the story, fine...although I do wish people would leave something to the imagination. If you're just scooping gravy on top in order to titillate audiences and sell more copies, then I have no respect for that. The same goes for unnecessary violence that isn't actually required by the story. It cheapens any production.

Besides that, I find that most erotic content as such is too one sided for me to support. It's usually there to please men without taking into consideration what a woman might find interesting or gratifying. (eg...female nudity only etc). That's a turn off to me. The games industry is already so slanted toward young male audiences that I shudder to think about adventure games going in the same pathetic direction.

[Aurebesh]

Originally Posted by marshal99

And there's also the deadly Succubus in Noctropolis.

I remember a woman getting naked and entering a pool or something in Noctropolis, but I don't remember her being a Succubus... And what's that animated GIF? It's not from the game, is it?

[Ninth]

Originally Posted by Aurebesh

I remember a woman getting naked and entering a pool or something in Noctropolis, but I don't remember her being a Succubus... And what's that animated GIF? It's not from the game, is it?

Stiletto gets half naked at one point (except it's not really her). And it happens near the pool of dark something that gives the hero his powers.

And the gif is a part of an in-game cut-scene that's been made into a gif. I remember that scene well.

[Gonchi]

Originally Posted by Ninth

Stiletto gets half naked at one point (except it's not really her). And it happens near the pool of dark something that gives the hero his powers.

Liquidark. And it doesn't really give Darksheer powers, it just heals him.

[Ninth]

Originally Posted by Gonchi

Liquidark. And it doesn't really give Darksheer powers, it just heals him.

Yes, that.

By the way, Noctropolis is one of my favorite underdogs, right after the Legend games. And I'm not even a comic fan to begin with. And the interface sucks. But the atmosphere is just great.

[Gonchi]

Noctrop's one of my favs too. I just seem to have a weak spot for obscure games.

I don't really consider myself a fanatic, though I have read the odd comic and own a bunch of cards and action figures.

[DEMON]

mature themes in some adventures are very welcome (for me)
if it has anything to do with the story, there is no point hiding it behind some silly censore

[Melanie68]

Aurebesh, I moved your question about Riana Rouge and XP to the Hints and Tips forum.

[marshal99]

Originally Posted by Aurebesh

I remember a woman getting naked and entering a pool or something in Noctropolis, but I don't remember her being a Succubus... And what's that animated GIF? It's not from the game, is it?

As mentioned , it was one of the cut scenes. Noctropolis is a beautiful game to play , the background art is gorgeous and it has a great atmosphere. Shame that the hero , Darksheer is kind of lame.

[LimpingFish]

Pornography, be it on film, in games, or in print, exists for one reason: The sexual gratification of the viewer/player/reader. It's not really that interesting an area, as it's very purpose limits its creativity.

A far more interesting discussion is erotic elements in otherwise "mainstream" games. Game characters (outside of the aforementioned "adult" genre) rarely display any kind of sexuality or sexual preference, unless necessary to the plot.

Hinted lesbianism in games such as Fear Effect or Bloodrayne, the ability to engage in same sex escapades in the Fallout games, the sexual undercurrent in VTM: Bloodlines, are little more than "nudge-nudge, wink-wink" titilation largely executed on behave of pubescent male gamers.

In-game nudity is pretty much the same deal.

I would find it very hard to justify a sex scene (hetero or otherwise) in an otherwise mainstream game, beyond "Why not?", as doing so would just lead to comparisons with the O.S.S (Obligatory Sex Scene) in modern "pulp" fiction.

Sex scenes in movies or novels really serve no specific narrative purpose, other than titillation, that couldn't be accomplished with the old fade out night, fade in morning move.

Unless your game is about the trials and tribulations of somebodies sex life, I see very little manouverability in trying to justify the inclusion of overt sexual content.

Covert sexual content, such as that which pervades and defines the Vampire genre, is yet another debate.

[Ninth]

Originally Posted by LimpingFish

I would find it very hard to justify a sex scene (hetero or otherwise) in an otherwise mainstream game, beyond "Why not?", as doing so would just lead to comparisons with the O.S.S (Obligatory Sex Scene) in modern "pulp" fiction.

It's funny how people separate sex from the mainstream, while everyone eventually gets to experience it, one way or another. I can't think of anything that more universal, and mainstream, than sex.

Sex is intense, and as such is a powerful tool to enhance an atmosphere, or a story. As any tool, it just has to be used properly.
In Noctropolis, I think it is the case, as it adds a layer of crudeness to the already gritty and dark atmosphere.

[SnorkleCat]

Originally Posted by Ninth

It's funny how people separate sex from the mainstream, while everyone eventually gets to experience it, one way or another. I can't think of anything that more universal, and mainstream, than sex.

Sex is intense, and as such is a powerful tool to enhance an atmosphere, or a story. As any tool, it just has to be used properly.
In Noctropolis, I think it is the case, as it adds a layer of crudeness to the already gritty and dark atmosphere.

Right...but going to the toilet is also something that happens everyday. Should we go out of our way to write toilet going into the plot of a game? I don't think so...Also, you really have to be careful what you put in and who it is meant to entertain. There's just too much female nudity and sex in many things for my taste. I'm female. Why the hell would I want to look at that? I won't buy the product. A tune in for you is probably a tune out for me, and that's what a lot of games producers don't seem to get...and why I'm leery of the idea of just tossing in more erotica. Inevitably, it's just going to be designed to appeal to males and ignore the female half of the market.