Oblivion will look like shit. - Page 4

RLacey · 01-30-2006, 05:19 AM

Um. I read your quotation from Bethesda and didn't see anything about them implementing a different system, only removing the old one. And in terms of development time there's obviously a pretty big difference between the two.

squarejawhero · 01-30-2006, 05:22 AM

It states they changed the system, so yes, it is different. Read the bit about cube maps (it's late and I can't recall it totally, but that was the bit).

edit - or rather read the entire posts linked to other than my quotes.

RLacey · 01-30-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by squarejawhero

edit - or rather read the entire posts linked to other than my quotes.

That would work

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And now I will blame you for your selective quotations

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nikoniko · 01-30-2006, 05:44 PM

Who needs objects that cast shadows?

Intrepid Homoludens · 01-30-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninth

I can't help thinking that they added a lot of "fake" effect to floor people and get them talking about their game.

So what? Lots of game companies do that.

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Not that I really care about shadow, myself, as I usually play old games, and find all the screenshots marvelous already.

Oblivion is quite a beautiful looking game to me. I look forward to exploring those worlds.

SakSquash · 01-30-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

So what? Lots of game companies do that.

Bad behavior doesn't excuse bad behavior.

*stuboy* · 01-31-2006, 04:36 PM

Oh for heavens sake... you've just spent four pages discussing the shadow system used in one game. Will it really kill the game for you? Will it really matter in the long run?

nikoniko · 01-31-2006, 10:08 PM

Bah. The game will have too many shadows as it is. I've heard that even if you get infected with vampyrism and become a full-fledged vampyre after three days pass untreated, your character *still* casts a shadow. Everyone knows vampyres don't cast shadows! What kind of bullcrap is this?!? I want my flippin' preorder money back!!!

Cheers,
doro- "take my shadow, please" -poso

Karmillo · 02-01-2006, 01:36 AM

erm, I thought it was reflections vampires didnt cast?

Starflux · 02-01-2006, 11:05 AM

Let's forget about shadows, levitation and vampires, and drown in the following:

nikoniko · 02-01-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Karmillo

erm, I thought it was reflections vampires didnt cast?

Not that wikipedia is necessarily authoritative, but in this case it does compile a pretty good list of common traits attributed to vampires, from which this is excerpted:

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Vampires typically cast no shadow and have no reflection. This mythical power is largely confined to European vampiric myths and may be tied to folklore regarding the vampire's lack of a soul. In modern fiction, this may extend to the idea that vampires cannot be photographed.

I guess it depends on the specific vampire tradition. I suppose BethSoft's vampires may not be of the same breed that I'm more familiar with. He'd better not have a reflection though, or else I'll never forgive them.

Karmillo · 02-01-2006, 02:22 PM

Yeah the reflection thing it practicly a must when it comes to Vampires, dont think ive ever seen anyhting to do with a vampire having a reflection...

Intrepid Homoludens · 02-01-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flux

Let's forget about shadows, levitation and vampires, and drown in the following:

http://www.captainaugust.com/septim.png

What is that? More free junk to collect and take up space in one's life?

Starflux · 02-02-2006, 12:53 AM

It's a replica of a Septim, Tamriel's Empirical currency. It's awesome. I want a treasure chest full of it so I can play Morrowind/Oblivion in Real Life.

Now all I need is a cave, and some people randomly shouting N'WAH or DIE FETCHER.

Intrepid Homoludens · 02-02-2006, 01:21 AM

Can use it to buy stuff in real life? That might fetch lots of chocolat truffles. Or martinis.

CrimsonBlue · 02-02-2006, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmillo

Yeah the reflection thing it practicly a must when it comes to Vampires, dont think ive ever seen anyhting to do with a vampire having a reflection...

According to Anne Rice, REAL vampires have no problems with garlic (apart from the horrible smell, like ordinary humans), holy water (?), crucifixes (many of them actually like them), they cast shadows and reflections - since they are all beautiful, they need to keep themselves tidy, don't they?

The sun is one of the few real threats. That and drinking blood from a person whose pulse has stopped beating (ie. dead).

Of course, the traditional type is a lot weaker.

Starflux · 02-02-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

Can use it to buy stuff in real life? That might fetch lots of chocolat truffles. Or martinis.

I'm guesstimating you can make money out of them by selling it on Ebay to loonies like me who want all Septims they can get their mitts on.

Karmillo · 02-02-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonBlue

According to Anne Rice, REAL vampires have no problems with garlic (apart from the horrible smell, like ordinary humans), holy water (?), crucifixes (many of them actually like them), they cast shadows and reflections - since they are all beautiful, they need to keep themselves tidy, don't they?

The sun is one of the few real threats. That and drinking blood from a person whose pulse has stopped beating (ie. dead).

Of course, the traditional type is a lot weaker.

Well according to me Anne Rice is a REAL vampire who is making all this stuff up to throw you off thinking you cant kill them with those things

...ive always wondered though...why garlic?

CrimsonBlue · 02-02-2006, 05:38 AM

Yes, why garlic? And how would the vampires be able to feed in countries where garlic is used in 99% of the dishes?

RLacey · 02-02-2006, 05:42 AM

By drinking the blood of beautiful young women, of course

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