[Wormsie]

"You can have anything in life if you will sacrifice anything else for it."

How does that make sense?

[Intrepid Homoludens]

That mean I can't have dessert AND main course?

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Pretty much means that anything is within your grasp, it just might require you to focus on only that one thing.

[C_Knight]

hmm yea...Grace Jones will never be my pimp

[Intrepid Homoludens]

You can always be your own pimp, hon.

[Wormsie]

Well, maybe I just think that stating something like that is pointless. Still doesn't make any sense to me, and I think some people I know are misinterpreting it. Maybe.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

I see your point. If you pursue what you've always wanted, it's not even a matter of sacrificing anymore. A sacrifice presupposes a very high value given to whatever is being sacrificed, and if you deem something conflicting not as important or unimportant compared to what you are truly pursuing, you are not sacrificing that thing. Now, it WOULD be a sacrifice if you gave up on your dream to pursue something far less valuable and satisfying than that dream.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

I see your point. If you pursue what you've always wanted, it's not even a matter of sacrificing anymore. A sacrifice presupposes a very high value given to whatever is being sacrificed, and if you deem something conflicting not as important or unimportant compared to what you are truly pursuing, you are not sacrificing that thing. Now, it WOULD be a sacrifice if you gave up on your dream to pursue something far less valuable and satisfying than that dream.

Well there can be different types of wants.

For example getting something you really want might require the absence of any "physical pleasures" (if you know what I mean ) so even though you might even consider the goal worth it, there may be times when you regret what you missed out on.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

That depends on how strongly you value whatever it is you're pursuing that requires you abandon those 'physical pleasures'. If you absolutely cannot do without those pleasures, then you probably do not value your pursuit to the point where you choose to forgo those pleasures. You also value those pleasures as much, if not more so, than what you were pursuing that requires you give them up.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

That depends on how strongly you value whatever it is you're pursuing that requires you abandon those 'physical pleasures'. If you absolutely cannot do without those pleasures, then you probably do not value your pursuit to the point where you choose to forgo those pleasures. You also value those pleasures as much, if not more so, than what you were pursuing that requires you give them up.

But like I said you might value the pursuit more, but that doesn't change that you may regret what you missed.

Even when something was worth it, you may still want what you missed.

Humans as a whole want everything, the cake, presents and the party.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Of course. You needn't rule out regrets and guilt, but they are in proportion to how much you value them, and how much you get back from what it is you are pursuing that requires you give up certain pleasures. You are, for example, on the threshold marrying someone. This requires you to devote the rest of your life to her, regardless of your recent life as a freewheeling bachelor. You regret you won't be able to date other women from now on, but how much to do you value your future wife in proportion to what you had before? Will your marriage be worth leaving your old life behind? It's obvious that you value your future wife more than your single life, and if your investment pays off those regrets will vanish in time.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by Intrepid Homoludens

Of course. You needn't rule out regrets and guilt, but they are in proportion to how much you value them, and how much you get back from what it is you are pursuing that requires you give up certain pleasures. You are, for example, on the threshold marrying someone. This requires you to devote the rest of your life to her, regardless of your recent life as a freewheeling bachelor. You regret you won't be able to date other women from now on, but how much to do you value your future wife in proportion to what you had before? Will your marriage be worth leaving your old life behind? It's obvious that you value your future wife more than your single life, and if your investment pays off those regrets will vanish in time.

Couldn't have put it better myself.