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Old 08-16-2004, 08:04 PM   #1
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Download this shite at your own risk.

Here are some programs that won't work with it.
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...ct=windowsxpsp2

Star Trek StarFleet Command III v1.0 Activision
Medieval Total War 1 Activision
Pagemaker 7 Adobe
PageMaker (German) 6.5 Adobe
Photoshop Elements 2 Adobe
Ad-Shield 3 Ad-sheild
ERDisk for AD 6.7.128.0 Aelita
Nero 6 Ultra 6 Ahead
Nero Bruning ROM 5.5.6 Ahead
Al Mawrad (Arabic) 2003 Al Ariss
PhotoClick --- Al Maalin
AOL 9 AOL
AOL Toolkit 1.13.2 AOL
Uno 1 Aris Buenaventura
Dead Man's Hand 1 Atari
MotoRacer 3 Atari
Scrabble v3.0 Atari
Unreal II 1 Atari
Unreal Tournament 2003 1 Atari
Unreal Tournament Game of the Year Edition 1 Atari
Extra Enterprise 2000 2000 --- Attachmate
Extra Personal Client 6.5 --- Attachmate
Extra! Bundle for TCP/IP 6.6 --- Attachmate
KEA! 340 v5.1 --- Attachmate
Command Antivirus 4.9 authentium
AutoCAD 2004 2004 --- Autodesk
bv-Admin Mobile 7 --- Bind View
StarCraft 1.05 Blizzard
BitDefender 7.2 Blizzard
Starcraft v1.11 Blizzard
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos Collector's Edition v 1.0 Blizzard
Patrol for Windows 2000 3.4.0.11 --- BMC
Word Perfect Family Pack 5 - Encyclopedia Britannica Ready Reference 2003 Britannica
WISO Sparbuch 2004 Buhl
InnoculateIT --- CA
MpegCraft DVD x Caropus
Citrix ICA client 7.1 Citrix
FileMaker Pro (German) 5 Claris
ArcServe 6.61 Computer Associates
ArcServe 7.0 --- Computer Associates
BrightStor ArcServe Backup 9.0 --- Computer Associates
eTrust 7 Computer Associates
eTrust 6.0.100 --- Computer Associates
Etrust EZArmor AE Test Computer Associates
Corel Draw 9 - PhotoPaint (German) 9 Corel
WordPerfect Office 11 Corel
1st nd Grade Excelerator Curious George Studio 1 --- Countertop Software
Serious Sam: The Second Encounter 1 Croteam
Retrospect Client x Dantz
Dave's Quick Search Toolbar 3.16 Dave Bau http://notesbydave.com/toolbar/doc.htm
Diet KaZaa 2.52 Diet KaZaa
The Lion King Animated Storybook 1 Disney
DivxPlayer 2.5.3 Divx
Command & Conquer Generals --- EA Games
Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour --- EA Games
Earth & Beyond v.1 EA Games
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 1 EA Games
SimCity 4 v1.0 EA Games
Freedom Force 1 Electronic Arts
NBA Live 2000 1 Electronic Arts
CheckSoft Home and Business 2004 Eliibrium
EDM File System Agent 3.1 --- EMC
Chess Advantage III: Lego Chess --- Encore
High School Advantage 2003 --- Encore Software
Encyclopedia Britannica 2000 Deluxe 1 Encyclopedia Britannica
Smarterm Office 10 --- Esker.com
Smarterm Office 11 --- Esker.com
Diskeeper 8 Executive Software
Der Brockhaus Multimedia (German) 2004 F.A. Brockhaus
JAWS 5.0 5 Freedom Scientific
F-Secure 5.52 F-Secure
Drivers & Utilities CD --- Fujitsu-Siemmens
Cute FTP 5.0 --- GlobalScape
Conflict: Desert Storm --- Gothamgames
Window-Eyes Professional 4.2 GW Micro
HP Quick Launch Buttons --- HP
HP SJ 6350 --- HP
HPSetup 42NAheBLU1 SW build --- HP
Exceed 8 --- Hummingbird
Host Explorer 8 --- Hummingbird
Rational's Clearcase 2003 IBM
ViaVoice for Windows Personal Edition 10 10 IBM
SmartSuite Millennium Edition ScreenCam (German) 9.5 IBM Lotus
ICQ Pro 3916 ICQ
iMesh 3.1 iMesh
TurboCAD Professional 9 IMSI
Installshield 8 Installshield
Quicken 2003 Premier Home and Business 2003 Intuit
Quicken Deluxe 2001 2001 Intuit
Kazaa 2.52 Kazaa
Kerio Personal Firewall 4 Kerio
WinRou
Lucas Arts
Merriam Webster's Reference Library 2003 - Journey to the Planets 2003 M-2K
ColdFusion MX for J2EE 6 --- Macromedia
Freehand 8 (German) 8 Macromedia
MapSend Direct Route --- Magellan
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2004 6 McAfee
McAfee Parental Controls 1 McAfee
McAfee VirusScan 4.51 McAfee
Netshield 4.5 --- McAfee
VisursScan 7 McAfee
Encarta Enzyklopдdie 2002 Microsoft
Age of Empires II: Age of Kings --- Microsoft
Application Center 2000 SP2 --- Microsoft
BizTalk 2004 --- Microsoft
CMS 2001 Microsoft
Comabt Flight Simulator 3 1 Microsoft
Excel 2003 Microsoft
Halo Combat Evolved (Arabic and Hebrew) Trial Microsoft
MapPoint Europe 2004 Microsoft
Microsoft Operations Manager 2000 SP1 Microsoft
MS License 3.7 Microsoft
MSBN --- Microsoft
MSN 7.02 Microsoft
MSN 9 QFE1 and 9.1 beta 9 Microsoft
Office 11 Microsoft
Office - Power Point 2002 (German) 2002 Microsoft
Office Access 2002 2002 Microsoft
Office System - Power Point 2003 Microsoft
Office XP Access 10 Microsoft
Office XP Professional Excel 10.0 SP2 --- Microsoft
Office XP SP2 - PowerPoint 11 Microsoft
Office XP Standard 10 Microsoft
Outlook 2000 9 Microsoft
Outlook 2002 10 Microsoft
Outlook 2003 11 Microsoft
Outlook Web Access x Microsoft
Revenge of Arcade v1.0 Microsoft
Server Administrator Tools --- Microsoft
SMS 2.0 SP5 Microsoft
SMS 2.0 SP5 Microsoft
SMS 2003 RC2 Microsoft
SMS 2003 RTM Microsoft
SMS --- Microsoft
SNA Server 4.0 SP4 --- Microsoft
SQL --- Microsoft
SQL 7 Microsoft
SQL 2000a 2000a SP3 --- Microsoft
TaxSaver 1999 Microsoft
Virutal PC 2004 Microsoft
Visual Basic 6 Microsoft
Visual C++ (16-bit) 2 Microsoft
Visual Studio 7 Microsoft
Visual Studio 97 Microsoft
Visual Studio .NET Enterprise 2003 --- Microsoft
Visual Studio 98 6 Microsoft
Windows Sharepoint Services 2 Microsoft
Windows Sharepoint Services --- Microsoft
Word XP Microsoft
Works Suite 2004 2004 Microsoft
WSS 2 Microsoft
Musicmatch Jukebox 8.20.0107 Musicmatch
StyleSelector x NEC
Veritas --- NEC
AppManager 5.01 NetIQ
End2End 4.1 --- NetIQ
File and Storage Administrator 2.1 (191067) --- NetIQ
VewNow 1.05 1.05 NetManage.com
View Now 1.0 1 NetManage.com
ViewNow 1.05 1.05 NetManage.com
McAfee Remote Desktop 32 --- Network Associates
ESET NOD32 for windows --- Nod32
Norman Personal Firewall 1.40 AETEST Norman
Norman Personla Firewall 4 Norman
Becky 12.09.01
KaZaa Media Desktop 2.6.3
PhotoImpact 7 (Traditional Chinese) 7
Sony: PCV-W510G 510G
Super Collapse (Demo Only) 2
UX Theme MultiPatcher 1.5.1
PhotoExplosion Deluxe 1 Nova Development
NovaNet Web 3.6 NovaStor
Pinnacle Studio Beta NX - Pinnacle Studio 9 cause data execution prevention errors
Instant CD/DVD 7 Pinnacle
Real Player (free version) 10 Real Networks
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 1 Red Storm
Action Request System x Redmedy
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 1 RockStar Games
NASCAR Racing 2003 Season v2003 --- Sierra
Tribes 2 1 Sierra
Harvard Graphics 3 Software Publishing Corp
SonicWALL Virus Scan --- SonicWall
Sony: PCV-V200G: --- Sony
VirusSecurity 2004 2004 Sourcenext
BootSkin x Stardock
Ghost Corporate Edition 7.5 --- Symantec
Norton Antivirus 2003 2003 Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2003 - GoBack Personal Edition Other MS Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2003 Professional Edition 2003 Symantec
Norton Systemworks 2004 - GoBack32 Beta Symantec
PCAnywhere 11 --- Symantec
Smantec Antivirus Corporate Edition 8 Symantec
Talkworks Pro x Symantec
Winfax Pro 10 Symantec
Roboword Pro (JAPANESE) 6 Technocraft
Style XP 2 tgtsoft
Eclipse 3 Unknown
Midnight Outlaw: Illegal Street Drag 1 Valuesoft
Roller Coaster Factory v3.0 Valuesoft
Elite Forces Vietnam: Special Assignment 2 ver 1 ver 1 Valusoft
Midnight Outlaw Illegal Street Drug v1.0 ValuSoft
Backup Exec 9 Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1.4691 Veritas
Backup Exec 8.6.1 --- Veritas
Backup Exec 9.1 --- Veritas
BackupExec 9.1 Veritas
BackupExec 8.6.1 Veritas
Bakcup Exec 9.1 --- Veritas
Volume Manager 3.1 3.1 Veritas
Command & Conquer Red Alert 2 v1.0 Westwood
Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 1 Westwood
Windgate 5.2.3 WinGate
Reflection 9 WRQ
Reflection 9.03 WRQ
Reflection 10 WRQ
Reflection X 10 WRQ
Reflection X 11 WRQ
Reflection X 10 --- WRQ
Xoreax Incredibuild --- Xoreax
Yahoo x Yahoo
Yahoo instant Messenger x Yahoo
Yahoo Messenger 6.0.0.167 Yahoo
PC Magazine Business Winstone Benchmark 2004 Ziff Davis
ZoneAlarm 5.0.590 ZoneLabs
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Old 08-16-2004, 08:26 PM   #2
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From what I've read, it's not that they won't work, it's that SP2 has the Windows firewall turned on by default which is going to wreak havoc with all the morons out there who don't know how to use a computer. With the firewall on, the ports will be blocked, so some things won't work properly. The way they say it, it sounds like all you have to do is just turn off the firewall when they release it, and there will be far fewer problems. (I won't say there won't be any, because it IS Windows... )
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Old 08-16-2004, 08:36 PM   #3
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yep, thats what i heard, you can turn it off. but i also heard that if you have home edition it's going to be realy tuff, unless you creat a reg key for it to keep it off. it will turn back on every time you reboot. for profesional there is a simpler mothd to turn it off.
 
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Did you actually READ the page you (tried) to link to?

http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2

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The programs that are listed in this article may experience issues after you upgrade to Windows XP SP2. You may not notice some of these issues. Additionally, software vendors may have resolved some of these issues. Contact the software manufacturer or vendor for more specific details.
The reason some of them *may* work differently is because SP2 limits the number of TCP connections any one application can open per second. It doesn't mean they don't work. The page never says they don't work.

If you're going to try to bash Windows or Microsoft, at least do some basic research, okay?

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i think there refering to Knight of the old rebpublic automatic pather or galixys
 
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My XP SP2 is working great, at least after I turned off all the crap from the Security Center.
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I'd recommend using a free firewall program, like Sygate, and sticking to that. At least with Sygate, and with other progs, you can choose which program you want to connect to the internet and which not (like WMP). Avoid using Windows built-in firewall, at least until they make it decent enough to use.
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There are quite a few Microsoft programs in there. Do you really think they'd release something that made so many of their programs unusable? This is like a list of side effects in a pharmaceutical commercial. Maybe one out of every 100,000 people will experience a problem with some program, but because that one person experiences it, they have to put it in the list.
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Is SP2 actually available? The Microsoft site just tells me to turn on automatic updates...
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SP2 is available. It's being rolled out slowly, I think, to 5,000 people/day. You might try firing up windowsupdate.microsoft.com and see if it's there for you.
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I think windows Xp sucks
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SP2 is available. It's being rolled out slowly, I think, to 5,000 people/day. You might try firing up windowsupdate.microsoft.com and see if it's there for you.
Windows Update changed in appearance a few days ago (maybe before that, I don't check it too often), but ever since then it's said "Windows Update has encountered an error and cannot display the requested page" whenever I try to check for updates. Good old Microsoft!

Hopefully automatic updates will work without any problems...

Anyway yes, Tabacco speaks sooth. The new security features may well cause a few problems, but you can just turn them off and be back to your old virused-up self within minutes. ;D
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Anyway yes, Tabacco speaks sooth. The new security features may well cause a few problems, but you can just turn them off and be back to your old virused-up self within minutes. ;D
...and whats the point of doing that? You are better off with the 1st SP and an anti-virus, firewall, and a pop-up blocker. I guess for some peeps 250 megabytes (yes thats how much SP2 is) is nothing.
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...and whats the point of doing that? You are better off with the 1st SP and an anti-virus, firewall, and a pop-up blocker. I guess for some peeps 250 megabytes (yes thats how much SP2 is) is nothing.
You may be thinking of the this-file-contains-everything version of SP2. I'm sure Microsoft were expecting it to be more like 80MB for most people.
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On top of which, many of those files either replace or patch existing files, so don't assume that means your Windows install will grow by the size of the download.

I really hate these mindless linux/mac zealots that have some sort of insane urge to defend their choice of OS the the death instead of admitting that every operating system has ups and downs.
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...and whats the point of doing that? You are better off with the 1st SP and an anti-virus, firewall, and a pop-up blocker. I guess for some peeps 250 megabytes (yes thats how much SP2 is) is nothing.
Yes, I was being facetious. The point is that your system would be a lot easier to use if it had no security whatsoever (isn't all that password stuff a pain?), but then you shouldn't be surprised when you end up with every trojan going. The fact is that Microsoft have tightened up security significantly in SP2, but it's silly to assume that this can happen transparently. Any attempt to improve security is going to be met with restrictions on normal use - just try using Windows XP with a 'local user' account - but it's ultimately a lot safer. I bet you had lots of fun clicking 'Permit' and 'Remember this setting' when you first installed Zone Alarm, didn't you? It's the same issue - you're willing to put up with that amount of hassle to gain a little confidence in the system.

Personally I run as Administrator and don't have a software firewall, but I've weighed the risks against the effort involved in using a 'local user' account and running ZoneAlarm and I find them acceptable. I am assuming that a lot of people will do the same with SP2, but they'll still feel obliged to cry when this decision "bites them in the ass" as they say.
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Dammit, I am far too paranoid now to download this 'Stupid SP2'.

Let me at least ask this. Are the advantages of this thing worth the overprotective firewalls?
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Dammit, I am far too paranoid now to download this 'Stupid SP2'.

Let me at least ask this. Are the advantages of this thing worth the overprotective firewalls?
I've been running it since RC2, Trep, and it's been business as usual. The anti-Microsoft crowd just like to hype up anything they perceive as annoying.
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Grr, yesterday morning SP2 FINALLY came up for me in automatic updates, and my computer crashed a few minutes after I started it, and now it's gone... it's not at Windows Update either... now I have to wait for it all over again...... ARGH
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