[tsa]

1. Early morning. I'm usually in bed by 23:00.

2. I go for the first option.

3. That's an interesting one. I don't know any games with music with lyrics in them, except some Myst games. And there it doesn't work. Because I don't have enough examples I have to leave the answer to this question open.

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Sorry Fantasie, but I still would like to see more answers to your questions about adventure games. To elaborate on my answers to those questions a bit: I was gripped by Myst, mostly because at the beginning of the game you had no clue about what to do. I love the exploring in all Myst games, and the fantastic graphics. I still look around in the real world and discover Myst-like' places and objects. The first Gabriel Knight game was the first game that teached me things I could use in real life, making my parents realize there might be more to these adventure games than meets the eye. And I absolutely adore the Tex Murphy games, mainly because of the atmosphere and the likeable figure of Tex. I'm still secretly in love with Chelsea Bando.

[Squinky]

Originally Posted by Fantasysci5

1. What adventure game, or game in general, affected you the most in your life? Made you think, made you emotional, whatever.
2. How come?
3. Do you prefer serious or comedic adventures?

1/2. Blue Lacuna is the most recent game that really affected me, both on a technical and an emotional level; the fabula that emerged from my playthrough was effective enough to actually make me cry, which doesn't usually happen. Best of Three was the first text adventure I really got into, and it served as heavy inspiration for things like Pigeons in the Park, showing me that adventure games can be more than just "games". And of course, a lot of classic Lucas games captivated me as a teenager to the point that I wanted to make adventure games myself. Years later, I've made a career out of it.

3. I veer more towards comedy (I AM heavily Lucas-inspired, after all) but generally, I enjoy elements of both. I don't like games that take themselves too seriously, nor do I like games that don't have any depth to them. Also, comedy games can fall flat for me if I simply don't like the humour. On the other hand, if a "serious" game turns out to be unintentionally campy, I can enjoy that too.

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1. What makes a story "mature" to you, and how does your definition differ from that of the ESRB?
2. When was the last time you moved?
3. Does your current living situation allow you to walk around your home naked without anyone objecting?

[Jelena]

Originally Posted by Squinky

1. What makes a story "mature" to you, and how does your definition differ from that of the ESRB?
2. When was the last time you moved?
3. Does your current living situation allow you to walk around your home naked without anyone objecting?

1. The first I come to think of regarding the term mature is that the story is serious or how to put it. Then I figure the story may contain sexual and/or violent content. After having checked the ESRB I see that's some of the things they mention as well.

MATURE
Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

2. It was 15 years ago.
3. Yes it does. But I seldom walk naked out of respect of my children. Who'd want to see their mother naked when your in your teens?

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1. Do you have time off from work/school during Easter?
2. How much time during a day (during springtime) do you spend outdoors?
3. Is that enough or is it too much?

[bulldog]

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. Do you have time off from work/school during Easter?
2. How much time during a day (during springtime) do you spend outdoors?
3. Is that enough or is it too much?

1. Yes.... spring break fell so I have a week off.
2. Not much, sometimes here the days are too hot... so I perfer fall time
3. I like spring evening... sitting outside with my dog around 7pm or 8pm. But yes sometimes its to much.


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1. What is your vice (ie... slight drinking, smoking... over eating... so on)
2. Are you willing to give up your vice?
3. Would you take up a hooy in place of your vice?

[tsa]

Originally Posted by bulldog

1. What is your vice (ie... slight drinking, smoking... over eating... so on)
2. Are you willing to give up your vice?
3. Would you take up a hooy in place of your vice?

1. I have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning.

2. Yes, but with me being jobless there is not really a drive to get out of bed

3. What's a hooy?

0-0-0-0

1. What is your main means of communication?

2. In what area besides adventure games do you follow the latest trends?

3. Do you always want the newest and bestests when you buy something?

[bulldog]

Originally Posted by tsa

What's a hooy?

That should have been “hobby”. My darn typing skills… teehee.
[QUOTE=tsa;505461]
1. What is your main means of communication?

2. In what area besides adventure games do you follow the latest trends?

3. Do you always want the newest and bestests when you buy something?

1.The phone and my laptop.
2.The only other place I visit was Facebook
3.Not usually.
__________________
1.What is your favorite thing to do?
2.What most irrates you?
3.You enjoy quite time?

[Jelena]

Originally Posted by bulldog

1.What is your favorite thing to do?
2.What most irrates you?
3.You enjoy quite time?

1. During spring time it's definitely working in the garden and sitting in the sun.
2. People that are "full of themselves".
3. I enjoy quiet time a lot. At work I'm always surrounded by lots of children and it's often very tiresome.
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1. What do you do to relax after a busy day at work/school?
2. How do you spend your weekends/days off work?
3. Who is the most important person in your life?

[tsa]

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What do you do to relax after a busy day at work/school?
2. How do you spend your weekends/days off work?
3. Who is the most important person in your life?

1. I just lay on the couch and watch TV.
2. I clean the house, play adventure games, go to the city to shop ('kijke kijke, nie kope,' we say in Dutch, which means 'look look, no buy'). When the weather is good and I feel good I go take pictures somewhere in the surroundings of Enschede. I also like to lay in the grass in the sun, reading the newspaper. And I work on stories about Sophie, or my Cemo book that needs to be finished. I'm not often bored.
3. Me.

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La première question: What do you do when you can't sleep or wake up much too early?

La deuxième question: How are you impacted by the current economic crisis?

La troisième question: What do you save money for?

[Jelena]

Originally Posted by tsa

('kijke kijke, nie kope,'

Swedish and Dutch are obviously close language-wise. I understand that.

3. Me.

You are a wise man tsa.

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La première question: What do you do when you can't sleep or wake up much too early?

La deuxième question: How are you impacted by the current economic crisis?

La troisième question: What do you save money for?

1. I try to relax by focusing on my breathing. It works sometimes.
2. Mr J was offered to work 80% for an 85% salary (and all benefits included) during two months due to the economy. He has now Fridays off work and has been able to cool down quite a bit.
My work is still not affected by it.
3. I save money for our trip to Mauritius in December.

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1. What are you most proud of today?
2. What are you most annoyed by today?
3. What is your number one goal right now?

[tsa]

Originally Posted by Jelena

You are a wise man tsa.

I bet you didn't expect that answer, did you?

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What are you most proud of today?
2. What are you most annoyed by today?
3. What is your number one goal right now?

1. My friend who ran about half of the Enschede Marathon today.
2. The music his kids are playing right now on my iMac
3. Right now? Getting Annabel in the living room. She doesn't like the slippery wooden floor in there too much so she'd rather stay in the other part of the house where there's carpet.

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1. How many people who play adventure games do you often see in meatspace?
2. How many real friends have you made online?
3. Are your friends there for you when you need them?

[Jelena]

Originally Posted by tsa

I bet you didn't expect that answer, did you?

I did pose the question to see if anyone would answer like you did. I was at a seminar once where the audience was given the question who the most important person in their life was. It turned out that only very few answered "me".

[tsa]

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What are you most proud of today?

Originally Posted by tsa

1. My friend who ran about half of the Enschede Marathon today.

Oh wow, I just heard that he ran the whole marathon! His wife just saw him at the finish when I called her. Now I'm even prouder! /me swells

[Lee in Limbo]

I'm so far behind that one of my patented multi-question posts covering everything would probably take two pages, so I'll break it up.

Originally Posted by Lady Kestrel

1. You've won the rental of a house for a month in the location of your choice. Where would you go and why?
2. What animal do you think you most closely resemble and why?
3. What choices did you have to make today?

1. I'm not sure, but the first place I'd think about would be New York City, because that's where my wife comes from, and if we planned it right, we could possibly use that month as a launching point to get ourselves set up there.
2. A manatee, and because I still have my eyesight, and that's what I see when I look in the mirror.
3. I closed the windows and put on my forest green cardigan, because it's no longer warm.

Originally Posted by bulldog

1. If you could be a bird, what kind of bird would you be?
2. What is your favorite vacation spot?
3. What is your dream job?

1. I feel like a dodo, but I would probably be one of Deirdra's a blue-footed boobies, 'cause those keds are kickin', yo.
2. I know this will sound so boring, but I don't really have a vacation spot. I'd like to do some world travel, but it's just not feasible right now.
3. I'm living the dream. Now I'd like for someone to inject some reality and pay me for it.

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What's the best part of spring in you opinion?
2. Are you affected by the changing of seasons? If so, how?
3. Do you like to make up thorough plans of do you rather improvise?

1. Spring in Hamilton is weird, because we still get periodic snow and the occasional blizzard. Not every year. Just sometimes. And personally, I like that.
2. In winter, things slow down and my mind starts to loosen up a bit. The rest of the year, I feel a lot of pressure.
3. I like loose frameworks. A little planning, a lot of improv.

Originally Posted by tsa

1. How would you react if your 13 year old daughter suddenly comes home with a tongue piercing?
2. What do you do with a 2.5 year old who every day refuses to eat dinner, out of principle? Even stuff you know he likes?
3. How old must your kid be before she gets his own pet?

1. I'd chuckle, thinking that she has no idea what that really means, and wondering if she'll still think it's cool when she learns the truth. Personally though, I honestly don't care about stuff like that. What would bother me more is if my 13 year old son decided to wear his pants around his knees. I can handle girls dressing a little scandalously, because they all do sooner or later, but nothing bothers me more than boys dressing like prison inmates and looking stupid in the process.
2. I would hope that my patience could sustain me through that period, because I know it's just a phase. That said, I know I'd be very irritated by it, because I'd keep thinking int he back of my head that it's because of my cooking.
3. My sister had pets from a pretty early age. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, save that you have to have the life and death talk, which would sadden me.

Originally Posted by bulldog

1. Do you believe in life after death? why or why not?
2. Do you believe in the paranormal? why or why not?
3. Do you believe in mediums? why and why not?

1. I suspect there is reincarnation, simply because energy is indestructible.

Originally Posted by Fantasysci5

1. Vanilla or Chocolate?
2. Eating at home or eating out? Why?
3. Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings?

1. Chocolate.
2. I like the occasional trip to eat out, but I mostly prefer eating while I work at home.
3. Harry Potter. LoTR is more important, but I enjoyed Potter more.

Originally Posted by bulldog

1. Are you a nerd?
2. Why did you answer #1 with that answer?
3. Coffee or Tea

1. Yes, but I'm sort of a middling artsy geek.
2. Empirical evidence.
3. Tea.

Originally Posted by MoriartyL

1. Do you get very attached to specific brands?
2. Are there certain advertising gimmicks that turn you off immediately?
3. Do you prefer all-in-one gadgets, or lots of gadgets doing specific tasks well?

1. Adobe rawks.
2. Yes. Obnoxious stupidity sells, but I seriously resent it. I prefer irony.
3. I like a few gadgets that do one or two things really well.

Originally Posted by tsa

1. Do you have any brothers or sisters?
2. Did you have pets as a child?
3. How have 1 and 2 formed you in your youth?

1. Troy (brother, 39) and Jolene (sister, 33).
2. Many, but I'm most fond of my memories of Sam and Ming, two of the best house cats that ever lived.
3. I've always preferred quiet pets and I've always worn the yoke of responsibility (badly), as I was the middle child, but due to my brother's physical and mental condition, I've always been the defacto big brother.

Originally Posted by Lady Kestrel

1. What books have affect your life the most?
2. As a student, what teacher or professor had the biggest positive impact on your development?
3. If you could change one habit, what would it be?

1. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams), The Schrodinger's Cat Trilogy (RA Wilson), Watchmen (Alan Moore), Robert Livingston Seagull (Richard Bach), Left Behind (Karen Burkey; NOT the religious book series), Ashes (Me).
2. Rick Kowalchuk, my grade 11 art teacher.
3. I'd like to stop hesitating when I become uncertain about a project I'm working on. Lacking that, I'd like to stop picking my nose ;P

Originally Posted by Fantasysci5

1. What adventure game, or game in general, affected you the most in your life? Made you think, made you emotional, whatever.
2. How come?
3. Do you prefer serious or comedic adventures?

1 & 2. Myst caught my imagination, but I think The Longest Journey has been the most important, just in terms of showing me that what I do can work in a gaming context and be really compelling.
3. I really prefer a mix of both. I like serious themes and fun dialogue.

Originally Posted by Fantasysci5

1. What time of day do you prefer? (Late night, early morning, etc?)
2. What kind of significant other would you like, distance-wise? (Close in proximity relationship, long distance relationship, always being together relationship, etc?)
3. In games-What kind of music do you prefer? (Instrumental, lyrical, etc)

1. I used to prefer late, late nights, but these days, I tend to prefer early afternoons.
2. I've had long distance relationships and relationships with people who lived blocks away or across town. In the end, the most important thing is that they get me, on some level. I can't ever be precisely what is expected of me, but I'm still a good person, if you can accept me for who I am.
3. I prefer moody, atmospheric music in games, whether there are lyrics or not. Soundtrack music needs to set a tone. Sometimes lyrics can help with that, but it has to be relevant to the mood you're trying to project.
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Questions next post...

[Lee in Limbo]

Originally Posted by Squinky

1. What makes a story "mature" to you, and how does your definition differ from that of the ESRB?
2. When was the last time you moved?
3. Does your current living situation allow you to walk around your home naked without anyone objecting?

1. I think 'mature' simply reflects serious themes that traditional adventure scripts dodge because they take too long to set up and don't have the same easy payoffs. ESRB wants me to think that violence and nudity are mature. I think violence and nudity are pretty serious, but even children know what both are. Ask a kid what it means to have to take a series of soul-crushing jobs to pay bills so you and your family don't go hungry.
2. I moved most of my furniture by myself down two flights of stairs to my current apartment, back in 1998. In 2005, I moved most of my wife's possessions here from Queens. I had more help that time.
3. Well, I have to keep the curtains drawn (ground floor), but yes, clothing is optional in Limbo.

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. Do you have time off from work/school during Easter?
2. How much time during a day (during springtime) do you spend outdoors?
3. Is that enough or is it too much?

1. Self-employed, so yes.
2 & 3. Not nearly enough, but I'm a creature of habit, and I tend to do most of my work at my computer, so...

Originally Posted by bulldog

1. What is your vice (ie... slight drinking, smoking... over eating... so on)
2. Are you willing to give up your vice?
3. Would you take up a hobby in place of your vice?

1. I occasionally drink single malt scotch and stout, I like rich foods, and I like looking at nude photography.
2. No, maybe and probably not.
3. I abhor hobbies. I have only future career pursuits.

Originally Posted by tsa

1. What is your main means of communication?
2. In what area besides adventure games do you follow the latest trends?
3. Do you always want the newest and bestests when you buy something?

1. Internet.
2. MMOs and graphics software.
3. I prefer to keep up to date if I can, simply because the latest innovations are usually things I was looking for several versions ago.

Originally Posted by bulldog

1.What is your favorite thing to do?
2.What most irrates you?
3.You enjoy quite time?

1. Put music on my WinAmp and start doing work.
2. Having to constantly stop doing my work to take care of meatspace things.
3. My whole life is Quiet Time. What I like is being able to decide for myself what to do with my day.

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What do you do to relax after a busy day at work/school?
2. How do you spend your weekends/days off work?
3. Who is the most important person in your life?

1. Relax?
2. Days off?
3. My wife.

Originally Posted by tsa

La première question: What do you do when you can't sleep or wake up much too early?
La deuxième question: How are you impacted by the current economic crisis?
La troisième question: What do you save money for?

Un: I have a very slow, sluggish, off day. This happens more often than I want to admit.
Deux: I hardly notice the difference, because I've been in this position for quite some time.
Trois: Bills. Occasionally, computer equipment.

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What are you most proud of today?
2. What are you most annoyed by today?
3. What is your number one goal right now?

1. My wife just walked by singing the song I was playing on my computer (I Want To Stay Home, by Jellyfish). Also, I'm almost finished answering these questions.
2. The cold is getting into my back and stiffening it.
3. Finish answering the questions, take the meds I forgot to take (again), and get myself ready to go pick up my prescriptions so I can sleep better at night.

Originally Posted by tsa

1. How many people who play adventure games do you often see in meatspace?
2. How many real friends have you made online?
3. Are your friends there for you when you need them?

1. Sadly, none.
2. I count a handful of people I've met online as being some of the most important friends of my life.
3. I don't ask much of my friends, internet or meatspace-wise. When I have problems, I complain about them openly, but I usually prefer to handle them myself unless one of my closest friends kicks in with a solution I was having trouble with. Mostly I just want a hug.
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1. Name the current song you listen to that most feels like your anthem, and tell us why.
2. Name the one fictional (movie, book or video game) character that you think could live your life for you if you had to swap places.
3. What idea were you so moved by that you wished you'd thought of it yourself?

[Squinky]

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

I'd like to do some world travel, but it's just not feasible right now.

Someday, far off into the future, I'll find a way to take you travelling with me. If your spousal unit doesn't object, that is.

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

I can handle girls dressing a little scandalously, because they all do sooner or later...

N-n-not all of them...

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

Mostly I just want a hug.

*hug*

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

1. Name the current song you listen to that most feels like your anthem, and tell us why.
2. Name the one fictional (movie, book or video game) character that you think could live your life for you if you had to swap places.
3. What idea were you so moved by that you wished you'd thought of it yourself?

1. I have this song with a very catchy tuba line in my head that I learned to play over the weekend. It feels like my anthem because it's a little unusual and doesn't resolve itself the way you think it's going to.
2. The player character in Des Rêves Élastiques Avec Mille Insectes Nommés Georges.
3. A bunch of stuff the IF people did ten years ago.

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1. Does spending months and/or years at a time doing nothing but travelling around the world appeal to you?
2. Does it make sense to feel embarrassed about being more financially well off than your friends?
3. Why don't very many interesting, thoughtful, socially conscientious artistic types play or make video games?

[tsa]

Originally Posted by Squinky

1. Does spending months and/or years at a time doing nothing but travelling around the world appeal to you?
2. Does it make sense to feel embarrassed about being more financially well off than your friends?
3. Why don't very many interesting, thoughtful, socially conscientious artistic types play or make video games?

1. Not at all. I like being at home.
2. No. You were lucky to be born smart, resourceful, and in an environment where you could express yourself. You can't help that, so why feel embarrassed about it? Just enjoy it.
3. Because the general public still thinks video games are for adolescents or children. Besides, not many people like to spend their lives in front of a screen like we do.

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1. How often do you wake up in the middle of the night?
2. Did you ever have cramped muscles because of stress?
3. What soothes you the most when you're stressed?

[Jelena]

Originally Posted by tsa

1. How often do you wake up in the middle of the night?
2. Did you ever have cramped muscles because of stress?
3. What soothes you the most when you're stressed?

1. About twice a week, but I usually fall asleep again within minutes.
2. Very often. During the period when I was in a 'burned out state of mind' I was regularely visiting the pain clinic at our hospital. When it was really bad I had injections with painkiller in my neck and in the back of my head.
Today I have to see a Doctor of Naprapathy on a regular basis in order to keep my body running smoothly. I still eat too much painkillers.
3. Hugs and long walks with my dog.

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1. What part of the 24-hour period do you prefer the most and why?
2. What part of the 24-hour period do you prefer the least and why?
3. How much time do you spend in front of the mirror in the morning?

[Lee in Limbo]

Originally Posted by Squinky

Someday, far off into the future, I'll find a way to take you travelling with me. If your spousal unit doesn't object, that is.

That would be nice. I'll keep you in mind.

Originally Posted by Squinky

N-n-not all of them...

You're right. That was a gross generalisation, and I apologise. I should have at least stated that it 'seems' like most teenage girls experiment with styles that aren't quite appropriate.

Originally Posted by Squinky

*hug*

Thanks you. *hugs*

Originally Posted by Squinky

1. I have this song with a very catchy tuba line in my head that I learned to play over the weekend. It feels like my anthem because it's a little unusual and doesn't resolve itself the way you think it's going to.

Ve vant to hear recordinks, dahlink.

Originally Posted by Squinky

2. The player character in Des Rêves Élastiques Avec Mille Insectes Nommés Georges.

Smart Alec. I should have exempted any game creators who have used themselves as a game character. Problem is, it would have excluded only one person I know, and she's my favourite game developer.

Originally Posted by Squinky

3. A bunch of stuff the IF people did ten years ago.

Hmmn. I still haven't dug into the IF stuff the way I keep promising to.

Originally Posted by Squinky

1. Does spending months and/or years at a time doing nothing but travelling around the world appeal to you?
2. Does it make sense to feel embarrassed about being more financially well off than your friends?
3. Why don't very many interesting, thoughtful, socially conscientious artistic types play or make video games?

1. On some level, yes. However, I've never had the opportunity to put it to the test. For all I know, I would be terrible at world travel. The furthest I've ever gone were Minnesota and NYC by plane (I've also had stopovers in Pittsburgh and I think one other American airport). I liked that. And the trip to Queens NY in a moving van was eventful but cool. But until I'm knee-deep in jungle swamp, I won't really believe I'm a well-travelled person.
2. I can understand it, but I think it's merely a sign of self-consciousness. I hope you learn to get past this feeling in your life. You've been blessed with opportunities. The only shame is if you don't use them properly to do something good for the world. Pay forward.
3. Because interesting, socially conscientious artistic types are usually (not always, mind you) lousy at code, and generally don't have enough money to make anything big enough to satisfy their artistic temperament.

Originally Posted by tsa

1. How often do you wake up in the middle of the night?
2. Did you ever have cramped muscles because of stress?
3. What soothes you the most when you're stressed?

1. A little too often if I forget to take my meds (or as is the case right now, keep forgetting to pick them up.
2. My back, shoulders and neck have been known to give me trouble on occasion.
3. Tea and 70's Genesis.

Originally Posted by Jelena

1. What part of the 24-hour period do you prefer the most and why?
2. What part of the 24-hour period do you prefer the least and why?
3. How much time do you spend in front of the mirror in the morning?

1. Hmmn. I think I was asked this question recently. I used to prefer the time between 11 PM and 4 AM. These days, I prefer the time between 11 AM and 4 PM. Funny how that works.
2. The period between 5 PMa nd 8 PM, because I have to start running around here getting the kitchen cleaned and dinner ready for my wife when she gets home. I don't mind making dinner for my wife, but it sometimes takes so long for me to get productive that I often feel I haven't gotten enough work done by the time I have to stop to do dinner.
3. Almost none. Being self-employed removes the need for much more than the most basic hygiene most days.
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1. What would you say to a former client who has asked you to remove the work you did for them from your online portfolio, even though there was never any agreement that you couldn't use the work in your portfolio?
2. Why is it that every nice day of weather we've had in Southern Ontario has been followed by a day of cold rain?
3. There is no question 3 (sorry, I have to go write this response to said former client).

[Trumgottist]

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

Smart Alec. I should have exempted any game creators who have used themselves as a game character. Problem is, it would have excluded only one person I know, and she's my favourite game developer.

She did say the player character, so that would be Bob and not Child of the Warriors. But I say that picking your own character is cheating, no matter which character it is.

Originally Posted by Lee in Limbo

1. What would you say to a former client who has asked you to remove the work you did for them from your online portfolio, even though there was never any agreement that you couldn't use the work in your portfolio?
2. Why is it that every nice day of weather we've had in Southern Ontario has been followed by a day of cold rain?
3. There is no question 3 (sorry, I have to go write this response to said former client).

1. It would depend on the client and the work, but I'm guessing that I'd either sadly take the work down or try to tell them in a friendly way that I'd rather keep it up.
2. It's so that you'll enjoy the nice days more.
3. Why is there no third answer?

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Ok, here be questions:

1. Do you follow any web comics or other episodic online stories?
2. Do you like to sleep?
3. Do you read your posts after writing them?

[tsa]

Originally Posted by Trumgottist

Ok, here be questions:

1. Do you follow any web comics or other episodic online stories?
2. Do you like to sleep?
3. Do you read your posts after writing them?

1. No I don't. I don't watch any series on TV either.
2. Oh yes. Unfortunately, tonight my body has other ideas.
3. Often yes, to marvel at my wit and intelligence .

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1. What is more beautiful: your body, or the image of it you have in your mind?
2a. How come?
2b. Is there a big difference?
3. What are you planning to do about it?