Thread Must Die! - Page 237

seebaruk · 03-30-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stepurhan

Is Philip K Dick the most horribly abused author when it comes to film adaptations?

Discuss referencing why Blade Runner wasn't called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", how Minority Report caught the concept but missed the point and why the makes of Paycheck should be taken out, shot,burnt, and have their ashes spread across the galaxy to prevent them doing it again.

For bonus points discuss why treating the makers of Total Recall in the same way as the makers of Paycheck would be too good for them.

Don't ask me about Screamers the film "based" on the short story Second Variety. The results would not be pretty.

I thought Blade Runner and Total Recall were very good films, and although I've heard that they're unfaithful to the original stories, that doesn't necessarily mean they should be automatically written off. Anyway, you guys got any recommendations for any more Philip K Dick stuff other than We'll Remember It For You Wholesale?

*stepurhan* · 03-31-2006, 12:00 AM

I'd recommend all the short stories. The novels tend to get a bit weird but if you want to give them a go you should try

The Man in the High Castle
Radio Free Albemuth
Galactic Pot Healer
eye in the Sky

Just to try him out.

Blade Runner was a decent film but it doesn't relate to the original story beyond some of the concept. This is what really bugs me about adaptations generally. It would be better to say "with some ideas taken from" rather than adapted from or based on.

Total Recall is a perfect example. It took a fascinating idea (what if someone asked for a fake memory implant and found out they had real buried memories of the same experience?) and then turned it into a gonzo action flick. I like a good gonzo action flick as much as the next man but its completely false advertising to say it was based on the story "We can remember it for you wholesale"

seebaruk · 03-31-2006, 12:10 AM

Yeah, I see your point there, they shouldn't say 'based on' when it's just got a vague idea borrowed from a book/story. I figure that "We can remember it for you wholesale" doesn't have a guy having his arms cut off by a lift then

NcroManiac · 03-31-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seebaruk

Yeah, I see your point there, they shouldn't say 'based on' when it's just got a vague idea borrowed from a book/story. I figure that "We can remember it for you wholesale" doesn't have a guy having his arms cut off by a lift then

No, but it does have a magic destroying rod in it

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 03:22 AM

This thread is, like, sooo last year...

seebaruk · 03-31-2006, 04:33 AM

I reckon RLacey doesn't actually exist, it's just a program that occasionally automatically posts one of a selection of catchphrases in a bid to be the last poster in this thread. It probably automatically detects pictures of its human disguise in love hearts too, and responds with appropriate disgust.

Panthera · 03-31-2006, 05:28 AM

HIHI, thread isn't dead yet, thread isn't dead yet *sings*

Jatsie · 03-31-2006, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seebaruk

I reckon RLacey doesn't actually exist, it's just a program that occasionally automatically posts one of a selection of catchphrases in a bid to be the last poster in this thread. It probably automatically detects pictures of its human disguise in love hearts too, and responds with appropriate disgust.

I wonder if it operates on the same principle as those "interactive voice response" computers one always gets when calling a bank or other large company. If so lets try to break it by confusing it with invalid comands.

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RLacey · 03-31-2006, 05:48 AM

>>ERROR

Please contact your network administrator.

seebaruk · 03-31-2006, 05:50 AM

Good plan! And now I'll confuse it with contrasting emotions so it doesn't know how to respond...

I love you RLacey, you're great. You ****ing little ****wit.

Nyahaa! Now we'll destroy him for sure!

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 05:51 AM

>>ER7Ou

Pleahe conuigt youe mitworl bdminestroop/

UPtimist · 03-31-2006, 06:06 AM

I bid you good day.

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 06:12 AM

>>REBOOTING...

>>STARTING...

Good day, UPtimist. Your polite manners will not prevent my (inevitably successful) quest to kill this thread, though!

Jatsie · 03-31-2006, 06:17 AM

Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 06:33 AM

I'm not a computer/program/robot. I have no idea what you're talking about...

Karmillo · 03-31-2006, 06:34 AM

Yeah if he was a computer then he would have used the avatar I made for him

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 06:39 AM

Not at all; if I were a computer I'd be specifically programmed to ignore any "helpful suggestions" that you might make.

Karmillo · 03-31-2006, 06:41 AM

It wasnt a helpfull suggestion, you said you were tempted

Jatsie · 03-31-2006, 06:41 AM

I don't care if you're a computer or not, I'm still gonna stick this floppy disc in you!

RLacey · 03-31-2006, 06:42 AM

I lied. Yes, hold the presses.

Well, not so much lied as misimplied. If that's a word.

03-31-2006, 12:00 AM	#4722
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03-31-2006, 12:10 AM	#4723
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03-31-2006, 04:33 AM	#4726
seebaruk Chris Barraclough Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,437	I reckon RLacey doesn't actually exist, it's just a program that occasionally automatically posts one of a selection of catchphrases in a bid to be the last poster in this thread. It probably automatically detects pictures of its human disguise in love hearts too, and responds with appropriate disgust. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Games and Tech journo, and broke-arse author of Bat Boy (UK Authors Prize 2010 Winner), Crack (Page Turner Prize 2011 shortlisted) and Dead Dogs (nominated for the Dylan Thomas Sony Reader Award). Check out www.chrisbarraclough.co.uk for promotions and giveaways. Twitter: Seebaruk

03-31-2006, 05:28 AM	#4727
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03-31-2006, 05:48 AM	#4729
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03-31-2006, 05:50 AM	#4730
seebaruk Chris Barraclough Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,437	Good plan! And now I'll confuse it with contrasting emotions so it doesn't know how to respond... I love you RLacey, you're great. You **ing little wit. Nyahaa! Now we'll destroy him for sure! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Games and Tech journo, and broke-arse author of Bat Boy (UK Authors Prize 2010 Winner), Crack (Page Turner Prize 2011 shortlisted) and Dead Dogs (nominated for the Dylan Thomas Sony Reader Award). Check out www.chrisbarraclough.co.uk** for promotions and giveaways. Twitter: Seebaruk

03-31-2006, 05:51 AM	#4731
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	>>ER7Ou Pleahe conuigt youe mitworl bdminestroop/ Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

03-31-2006, 06:06 AM	#4732
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03-31-2006, 06:12 AM	#4733
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	>>REBOOTING... >>STARTING... Good day, UPtimist. Your polite manners will not prevent my (inevitably successful) quest to kill this thread, though! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

03-31-2006, 06:17 AM	#4734
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03-31-2006, 06:33 AM	#4735
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	I'm not a computer/program/robot. I have no idea what you're talking about... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

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03-31-2006, 06:39 AM	#4737
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03-31-2006, 06:41 AM	#4739
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03-31-2006, 06:42 AM	#4740
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	I lied. Yes, hold the presses. Well, not so much lied as misimplied. If that's a word. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.