[Bad Asp]

Telltale's Sam and Max episodes. No Bill Farmer? No Nick Jameson? No way, Jose!

[skeeter_93]

Originally Posted by Fien

Maybe she's not dead?

And most indie 1st-person horror adventures, like Dark Fall 1 and 2, Barrow Hill, don't go Eek! That's because the silent protagonist is the player, and personlly I wouldn't want anybody to do my EEKing for me.

Ahah, for some reason didn't think of it like that. I did the eeking for myself... I guess I am used to 3rd person games - it's probably the reason why I didn't play past the beginning of Barrow Hill either.

Originally Posted by zobraks

I think you made a big mistake. AMBER is one of my favo(u)rite adventures.

I may give it another try... not sure...

[GarageGothic]

Originally Posted by Lupin The Third

Actually I don't particularly care for Billy...but I'm not surprised that the liberal response is "let's cry conservative paranoia" over something that was blatantly obvious. You KNOW for a fact if TellTale had made a comment implying that a CNN newscaster should be shot dead then you'd be furious and then game would have already been edited. Last time I checked it's people like Castro, Hitler, and Stalin that murder those they oppose politically....if TellTale wants to make implications like that about any American citizens then I prefer not to support them financially. If that makes me "Conservapedia comedy" then so be it...I'm glad to have amused a useful idiot like yourself with my integrity and concern for fellow humans.

Wow, if I was a troll I'd be having a field day with this, but instead of arguing politics, let's make sure we're both talking about the same "blatantly obvious implication". Here's my take:

So, context being that anarcho-dictatorial President Max and his buddy Sam return to their office, where Sam's attention is drawn to the water-dispenser-turned-fish-tank in the corner launching him into a paranoid rant about their goldfish Mr. Spatula (appointed Vice President by Max and as always swimming circles around his little toy castle).

SAM: "His lust for power has twisted him into a mockery of the goldfish we once kind-of loved. That insouciant fin-flapping, that glassy, malevolent stare, like a sociopath or a Fox newscaster. Mr. Spatula has become... Pure evil!"

MAX: "Staging a coup, Spatula? Not on my watch! Eliminate him."

Sam raises his gun to shoot Mr. Spatula, but a laser beam shoots through the wall, beating him to the punch and evaporating the fish tank.

Youtube video here

Now, call be liberally biased, but the worst attack on conservatives I can see in there is a joke comparing Fox news anchors to sociopaths, which may not be to your liking but certainly not the scenario you read into it.

I'm perfectly OK with you not liking the games, but slandering a game company for political statements only present in your own misreadings of the ravings of two delusional cartoon characters may not be the best way to dispel myths of conservative paranoia and lack of humor.

[ozzie]

Originally Posted by MoonBird

Grim Fandango
This goes to gathegory: What were they thinking? Sloppy keyboard controls, very, very strange humour, unbeliveably ugly characters and who-could-care-less story

For me Grim Fandango was an amazing story that wasn't enjoyable as a game for me. I guess because the puzzles were rather convoluted, complicated and rarely straightforward, and the controls were so awkward that I only rarely could suspend my disbelief.
I actually found a video where someone, uncommented, played Grim Fandango from beginning to end. He played it in such a way that it actually somewhat worked as an overlong movie. So I enjoyed more watching than playing the game. Grim Fandango as a movie, or an animated series - that would've been truly awesome!

BTW, if you think the humour of GF was "very, very strange", then better never watch a Monty Python movie!

[rottford]

Originally Posted by sakusen

Darkness Within 2
Not as scary as the first game. It was so short and felt rushed.

The Lost Crown
Worst voice acting in the history of MEDIA. Repeated dialouge for different interactions through the entire game. A lot of tedious and illogical puzzles. Boring characters. A story that doesn't make any sense in A BAD WAY. The animations are horrible. Even the normal walking animation for the main character is unbearable. Never got scary.

I agree that the voice acting in Lost Crown was strange at first. But it eventually grew on me, adding to the game's charm. The game was unique in that the unusual voices added to the strange look and feel of the locale/format/characters.

What nearly ruined the game for me was the inability to skip repetitive dialogue and Boakes' excessive (and incorrect) use of commas (could be my bias as a magazine editor, though). I'm dying to do a second playthrough, but if I can't skip the repetitive dialog, then...

[mgeorge]

I'd have to say Dreamfall and TLJ. I never made it through TLJ even after spending over 30 bucks for it. Illogical puzzles, (my biggest pet peeve in AG's) and although I like dialog in games, (loved Culpa Innata), way to much talking so I just couldn't get into it.

But I was still looking forward to Dreamfall. Once I got it though, I found the controls on the PC were horrendous, and the forced stealth and fighting were about as bad as you can find on a PC game. Plus the game's story made very little sense to me, perhaps because I never completed TLJ. The story did make some sense near the end, but by then I was literally forcing myself to finish it.

A couple of others that some to mind are ones that I don't even remember the names to. One was where you had to scotch tape a tape recorder on a cat and make him eat salt or pizza? or something to get him through a door, and another one had you inserting dynamite in a rats anus to blow open a door. And there's more, but I'm to lazy to remember them right now. Just thinking about some of these inane and obtuse puzzles makes me wonder why anyone could find them fun. But... ones mans junk is another mans gold I guess.

[Lupin The Third]

Originally Posted by GarageGothic

Wow, if I was a troll I'd be having a field day with this, but instead of arguing politics, let's make sure we're both talking about the same "blatantly obvious implication"....

Now, call be liberally biased, but the worst attack on conservatives I can see in there is a joke comparing Fox news anchors to sociopaths, which may not be to your liking but certainly not the scenario you read into it.

I'm perfectly OK with you not liking the games, but slandering a game company for political statements only present in your own misreadings of the ravings of two delusional cartoon characters may not be the best way to dispel myths of conservative paranoia and lack of humor.

The implication is perfectly clear....Mr Spatula is like a Fox News anchor and according to Sam that makes him "Pure Evil" and he must therefore be eliminated. To say that I'm "slandering" Telltale by pointing out their intention is simply a tactic on your part to misdirect the debate. The implication is clear as day for any intelligent human being to understand. If they'd said the same thing about Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer or anyone on the left the game would already have been edited with an apology issued, and you know that for a fact.

But I'm not surprised that someone is going to make excuses for the murderous intent of some people on the left....after all it was people from the left that made 2 movies and wrote 3 books about murdering Bush and a comparable number about murdering Tony Blair. Given what people on the left consider acceptable behavior I'm not surprised at all that a fool like yourself will attempt to misrepresent what's been clearly implied by Telltale and to falsely attempt to chalk it up to so-called conservative "paranoia". Do I think Telltale would murder a fox news caster? Not in our current society. But place them in a society like Cuba or Hitler's Germany and this is exactly what people from the left would do to a conservative. It's exactly what good little socialists and communists do in every society they've been allowed to run amok in. History proves this to be true and they've just told you as much with their "artistic" expressions.

You know clearly I've struck a chord by pointing this out. If it weren't so obviously true you wouldn't be so concerned with derailing this thread by attacking me over a passing comment I made about the game. If you don't believe this to be true then just let it go....because defending this kind of political "discourse" only shows badly on you.

[GarageGothic]

Well, so much for hoping it was just a matter of selective memory and knee-jerk reaction. I'm obviously not gonna get through to you, and have no desire to be pulled into a pointless partisan discussion. In any case you seem to have a firm preconception of my place on the political spectrum, so if you don't mind I'd rather spend my time smoking pot with comrade Dawkins while plotting the gay agenda.

[Henke]

Originally Posted by Lupin The Third

The implication is perfectly clear....Mr Spatula is like a Fox News anchor and according to Sam that makes him "Pure Evil" and he must therefore be eliminated. To say that I'm "slandering" Telltale by pointing out their intention is simply a tactic on your part to misdirect the debate. The implication is clear as day for any intelligent human being to understand. If they'd said the same thing about Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer or anyone on the left the game would already have been edited with an apology issued, and you know that for a fact.

But I'm not surprised that someone is going to make excuses for the murderous intent of some people on the left....after all it was people from the left that made 2 movies and wrote 3 books about murdering Bush and a comparable number about murdering Tony Blair. Given what people on the left consider acceptable behavior I'm not surprised at all that a fool like yourself will attempt to misrepresent what's been clearly implied by Telltale and to falsely attempt to chalk it up to so-called conservative "paranoia". Do I think Telltale would murder a fox news caster? Not in our current society. But place them in a society like Cuba or Hitler's Germany and this is exactly what people from the left would do to a conservative. It's exactly what good little socialists and communists do in every society they've been allowed to run amok in. History proves this to be true and they've just told you as much with their "artistic" expressions.

You know clearly I've struck a chord by pointing this out. If it weren't so obviously true you wouldn't be so concerned with derailing this thread by attacking me over a passing comment I made about the game. If you don't believe this to be true then just let it go....because defending this kind of political "discourse" only shows badly on you.

Are you for real? I can't believe what I'm reading. You're joking obviously.

[Josho]

Another couple of creative teams that keep filling their scripts with over-the-top insults to Fox News are the guys that create "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy." I think I'll boycott the company that pays all their writers. Uh...what company was that again?

[mgeorge]

Haha. Political arguments in the middle of an AG thread?

I have 2 very good friends. One is as far right as you can go, and and the other as far as you can go to the left. Put these two in a room together and the fireworks start. I sit back and laugh at both of them. When I'm alone with either, they try to cram their political beliefs down my throat, because they earnestly believe in the rhetoric there're spewing.

Personally I think all politicians are full of feces, and it's to bad that we, as the general public, are led like sheep by these people, and told how we should think.

Now both friends think I'm not very smart, because I often argue one point or another with them and don't agree with everything they say, so I guess I'd be considered a moderate in my political beliefs.

But as much as I hate politics and politicians, I for one am glad that in the US everyone is allowed to express their opinions whether conservative or liberal in the media. And although it's certainly anyones right to dislike a game because of it's political content and express it here, it seems to me that it's a pretty trivial thing to be arguing about in a forum about an AG game.

[J.H]

Luckily I have no "far right" friends, I usually find people like this to be extremely racist, hang on wait am I on ATS or AG lol?

On a lighter note I wonder if an AG based around politics could work?

[Fantasysci5]

Let's get back on topic, guys.

I thought "Daemonica" was going to be really cool, until I had to keep collecting stupid plants all the time...

[rayvio]

Originally Posted by J.H

On a lighter note I wonder if an AG based around politics could work?

if I remember right one of the Reality on the Norm games was fairly political, albiet tongue in cheek of course

[ozzie]

Hah, I actually planned on doing a politically themed RON game. Gower was running as mayor (again), but the father of David Jones, a conservative who believes in every word of the bible and denies that his son is a very talented wizard, started a smear campaign against him. I didn't try to draw any parallels to real life events and persons, which would've been hard anyway, since the whole story was typically ridiculous for a RON game...

Would've been fun, if I had the self discipline to do it...

[Ascovel]

There are quite a few politics bases adventure games:

- Feeble Files
- Zork: The Grand Inquisitor
("Who is the boss of YOU!? ME! I am the boss of YOU!" )
- A Mind Forever Voyaging

[GarageGothic]

Of course there's also the old interactive fiction game based on British sitcom Yes, Prime Minister, and I suppose Floor 13 could to some degree be considered an adventure game.

Last but not least, don't forget Max' campaign for the presidency in Sam & Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die! (full game still for free over at Telltale Games)