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Old 12-12-2006, 01:27 PM   #1
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Oh Joy another CSI, Law & Order style game.

Just what we need.


*snore*


I know it's from Telltale, but is anyone else bored silly with the CSI game template.

They were never that great to start with.

P.s i'm in a grumpy mood
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:31 PM   #2
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*shrug*

I never played a Law and Order game and the only CSI game I played was the latest one by Telltale. I'm looking forward to this.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:29 PM   #3
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Problem with these games is that, like episodes of the TV show, they are all the same. Cloned at birth. You can watch any of the CSI episodes in any order and pick up what is going on without needing a giant storyline catchup.

There is no real overall story just individual cases so you never get the feeling of involvement, The characters from the show just stand or sit there and don't do much unless asked a question and then info dump so you never get to know them or give a hoot anyway. They are just window dressing.

There is no challange to the games. They are dead easy.

I'm sure it's probably handed down from the TV people that they need to stick to a set formula. The one that keeps selling the game even though it always gets middle of the road boring reviews. The one that sells the game just because it has CSI on the title so why bother trying something new or innovative.

So I don't blame Telltale who are making it because it pays the bills and i'm sure will try to make the script intersting to cover up the inadequces in the gamplay.

I'd rather they made another Bone game though.
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:25 PM   #4
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If they did one that was focused on the morgue and post mortems, that would be cool. Well it would be for me...
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:01 PM   #5
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I love the CSI games - there doesn't need to be a complicated plot to them because the whole point is solving murders!
And, anyone who says they are too easy is obviously using a walkthrough

They have reasonable voice acting, cool sequences involving flashbacks and medical procedures, and whilst they may not be long or memorable games, they are a pretty cool distraction from some of the more serious games out there
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I've played CSI Dimensions of Murder demo and I found it very boring. It's like to be working instead of playing. Very weird feeling. :p
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I was given the second CSI game as a gift, it was okay, but not something I'd pay for.

The games lack any semblance of atmosphere. One thing I really disliked about the gameplay, was that I didn't feel like I was actually doing anything. All I had to do was click around a little bit and the game practically unfolded itself.

I don't think we need any more games of this type, unless they find a way to radically overhaul them.
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I play them, only to curb my cravings - for however brief/disappointing a moment - for a new adventure game.

Something else to add to their list of mediocrity is that every single sodding character talks in the same way. Everyone, young or old, talks in shorthand, or use phrases that sound cool, but add little in the way of real character development.

Noone says, "I left at 6:00", instead they say "I bailed round 6:00". I've never met anyone who 'bailed' in their life! I wouldn't mind if there was variety, but there's never any real characters, just endless facsimiles.

I appreciate it’s a fairly specific complaint...
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For some reason I have a good feeling about this game. I'll definatly keep my eye on this one, Telltale are getting better with their games.
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If anyone in the San Francisco area is interested, Telltale's going to have a focus group for the new CSI game on Saturday. Send me a PM if you'd like to participate.
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Does it involve bumping off Dasilva and then trying to solve the crime?
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Does it involve bumping off Dasilva and then trying to solve the crime?
Are you trying to get his Wii fund?
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I hope this game is a bit more like the series with having some sort of back story going on with the characters instead of just focusing on the murder.
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CSI games suck.
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I never played the first CSI game.

I played CSI Dark Motives and I enjoyed it. Then I played the CSI Miami game and was less enthusiastic about it. Then I played 3 Dimensions of Murder and gave up in the second case. Not only was it just too easy, it was boring as hell with long and I mean LONG tedious dialogues. It was all predictable and not in the least challenging.
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I played one of the Law & Order demos, and I really don't get it. Seems like all you do is scavenge a crime scene (i.e. pixel-hunt), then interview witnesses and suspects (i.e. exhaust dialog). These are the worst gameplay elements of the adventure genre.
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I played one of the Law & Order demos, and I really don't get it. Seems like all you do is scavenge a crime scene (i.e. pixel-hunt), then interview witnesses and suspects (i.e. exhaust dialog). These are the worst gameplay elements of the adventure genre.
That kind of work is meticulous in real life too. Not every piece of evidence in a real crime scene is going to stand out. If that kind of thing rocks your socks, the L&O and CSI games are great fun. If not, then you try something else.

And that's why demos are good, you didn't spend money on a game that isn't your style.
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That kind of work is meticulous in real life too. Not every piece of evidence in a real crime scene is going to stand out.
The thing is, in real life you don't know what you're going to find - if anything. In the CSI games you know if you click around enough all the clues you need are going to be there. That removes any challenge and leaves the game feeling empty, for me at least.
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I'm basing this only on the pre-Telltale CSI games, but anyway...

I think that's the real point. Investigating a real crime requires thought (one would presume), whereas playing a CSI game requires you to click on every available hotspot. It's not about thinking about where one would search (unless you turn off the smart cursor, at which point the game becomes stupidly hard because the hotspots aren't always well placed).

I'm sure that there's so much more that could be done with this format.

(Note that this isn't meant as a criticism of Telltale; I have no idea how much control, if any, they have over the format.)
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CSI games suck.
word dude...
soooo booring games, no good story etc...

Don't buy this....
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