[D.C.]

If you've read the most recent issue of The Inventory (Volume #10 I think) you will see an interview with Jane Jensen. One of things she talks about in the interview is the Gabriel Knight series and GK4 which she pitched to Vivindi last year. She said that the story for GK4 would have involved a really spooky haunting. (Everyone who typed GK4 into Sidney knew that it most likely had something to do with ghosts. ) This story sounds extremely interesting... she even stated that if Vivindi does not allow her to use it in a GK game she might use it in another project. (Although I would prefer to see Gabriel Knight and Grace Nakimura on the case. )

My question is related to Vivindi. Have they been sold yet? If so, now that the company has been sold is their a chance that they can sell or liscence the GK series to Jane Jensen. In the interview she states that Vivindis properties were all frozen until it was sold.

The story for GK4 sounds awesome and GK3 left lots of unanswered questions that GK fans want to know the answer to relating to...

Spoiler:

... Grace Nakimura and whether she has left for good.

[Skinkie]

That's just one question that needs answered, another one that is very important is....



There's spoiler's here, but I didn't know how to tag em.

Whether or not Grace is pregnent. As to where she went I think it was to study under that shaman guy she was in contact with.

[mrdunn]

Originally Posted by Skinkie

That's just one question that needs answered, another one that is very important is....



There's spoiler's here, but I didn't know how to tag em.

Whether or not Grace is pregnent. As to where she went I think it was to study under that shaman guy she was in contact with.

Oh man, never even thought about that (typical guy, i know). I highly doubt Vivendi would make something as risky as GK4 with their financial situation. I wonder who would buy the liscence though, if it were to be bought....probably TAC or something...

[fov]

well, what with jane's new company and her focus on her new game (as the first of a series), i doubt lobbying for the rights to GK4 is her top priority. doubt vivendi would give them up, either. but maybe the success of the new LSL game and/or the success of jane's new game (assuming they're both successful) could change management's mind.

as for the gabe/grace story

Spoiler:

it didn't occur to me that she could be pregnant until someone on another board brought it up. i guess she could be... but if she is, she wouldn't have known it when she left at the end of GK3. and grace seems like such a logical gal, i have a hard time believing she would do it without a condom...

-emily

[D.C.]

Spoiler:

Remember that it was kind of spontaneous. Both my sister and I suspected she was pregnant when we first completed the game... Emilio telling her to take care of herself now also added to this speculation. The Sierra Studios Gabriel Knight forums also had speculation threads.

Fov: I agree that right now its not the top priority and I can't wait for the new series which is my most anticipated game (Just read my Project Jane-J thread. I haven't anticipated a game this much sinch Gabriel Knight III: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned was in production.), but it would be cool to know that Gabriel Knight 4 would eventually be made. If Vivindi does sell or liscence the game now that their assetts arn't frozen, I think that Odyssey Digital Entertainment maybe able to pick it up. (Depending on the price.)

Gabriel Knight III: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned is my favourite adventure game.

[Mnemonic]

Another spoiler

Spoiler:

If you export some of the internal game files (using the in-game console) some of them contain notes for voice actors, and one explicitly says Grace is pregnant.

[fov]

clearly, vivendi's assets being frozen isn't preventing them from making games. they're making the new LSL game, among others. i actually am not sure about the assets being frozen - what i remember from the sale was that the gaming division was not being sold, and vivendi was retaining a stake in it (in other words, they chose not to sell VU Games along with the other assets so they could continue to control VU Games).

as for the grace speculation above

Spoiler:

the game ends the day after they sleep together. if she's pregnant, she wouldn't know that soon. it takes 72 hours for a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus (at which point, it becomes an embryo). pregnancy tests measure hormones that the mother's body produces as it nourishes the embryo. so you're not even going to get a pregnancy test result the morning after.

more info than you wanted to know? 8-)

Spoiler:

anyway, i'm willing to accept that she might be pregnant, but not that she left him because she knew she was pregnant.

Mnemonic, do you know how/where to find that file? i'd like to hear it.

-emily

[Bobske]

Originally Posted by fov

clearly, vivendi's assets being frozen isn't preventing them from making games. they're making the new LSL game, among others. i actually am not sure about the assets being frozen - what i remember from the sale was that the gaming division was not being sold, and vivendi was retaining a stake in it (in other words, they chose not to sell VU Games along with the other assets so they could continue to control VU Games).

as for the grace speculation above

Spoiler:

the game ends the day after they sleep together. if she's pregnant, she wouldn't know that soon. it takes 72 hours for a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus (at which point, it becomes an embryo). pregnancy tests measure hormones that the mother's body produces as it nourishes the embryo. so you're not even going to get a pregnancy test result the morning after.

more info than you wanted to know? 8-)

Spoiler:

anyway, i'm willing to accept that she might be pregnant, but not that she left him because she knew she was pregnant.

Mnemonic, do you know how/where to find that file? i'd like to hear it.

-emily

He you guys forgot about one thing:

Spoiler:

When you take a closer look at Gabe's wallet you can see a blue condom! So what if they used it? There goes that theory I'm not sure if it is still there after they make passionate love but you can see it certainly when you start a new game? Does anybody know if it's still there after they make love?

Anyway I read somewhere that we will never see the Sierra adventure games we knew from the old days (including GK3). When Vivendi bought Sierra the general idea was to stop making adventure games and use Sierra's good name to produce games for the console market plus make incredible amounts of money with Half-Life 2...

[Mnemonic]

Originally Posted by fov

Mnemonic, do you know how/where to find that file? i'd like to hear it.

It's a text file. I've extracted it: http://dead-code.org/misc/E1HE4Y4PV9N.YAK
If you want to extract it yourself:
1) run GK3
2) bring up the console (Ctrl+Shift+~)
3) Type: Extract ("E1HE4Y4PV9N.YAK", "")

But then again, it may be a part of a huge conspiracy

Oh, and of course, as usual in this thread, this is a SPOILER

[DomStLeger]

On the Vivendi front - Vivendi has moved back into profit under the new CEO, and the deal to merge/sell their american television interests to NBC will help slash their debts somewhat. I've read that they will now not be selling Universal Music nor Vivendi Universal Games, though I can't find the page I read that on now. But Vivendi Games is in the red (and losses actually increased this year), and that most of the recent profits are actually from the assests they are about to sell. (http://media.guardian.co.uk/city/sto...098461,00.html )

So in short, no they have not been sold yet, and no deal seems to be on the horizon.

[fov]

Originally Posted by Mnemonic

It's a text file. I've extracted it: http://dead-code.org/misc/E1HE4Y4PV9N.YAK
If you want to extract it yourself:
1) run GK3
2) bring up the console (Ctrl+Shift+~)
3) Type: Extract ("E1HE4Y4PV9N.YAK", "")

But then again, it may be a part of a huge conspiracy

Oh, and of course, as usual in this thread, this is a SPOILER

hmm. is that line of dialogue ever spoken in the game? certainly does seem like proof (even if it's just a dialogue tag).

Spoiler:

assuming emilio is the speaker -- which is what that looks like -- i believe that *he'd* know she's pregnant, even if it's too early for grace to know. isn't he (emilio) the stepbrother of god, or something?

-emily

[SamandMax]

I was hoping the next Gabriel Knight game could've been about a giant man-eating ape. They could've called it 'Gabriel Knight: Apes Ahoy!'. But I guess that was being unrealistic.

[Garyos]

Originally Posted by fov

hmm. is that line of dialogue ever spoken in the game? certainly does seem like proof (even if it's just a dialogue tag).

Spoiler:

assuming emilio is the speaker -- which is what that looks like -- i believe that *he'd* know she's pregnant, even if it's too early for grace to know. isn't he (emilio) the stepbrother of god, or something?

-emily

Spoiler:

I clearly remember him saying that in the game (without the apostrophes, obviously...) Maybe he told her about it? It seems totally possible.... And maybe there'll also be something "special" about this child, and this is part of the reason for why she left.....

[D.C.]

Fov:

Spoiler:

Even though I suspected she was pregnant I didn't think that was the reason why she left... I agree that she probably didn't know, but Emilios line indicated that he knew.

I can't wait for a GK4.

[mrdunn]

Originally Posted by Bobske

He you guys forgot about one thing:

Spoiler:

When you take a closer look at Gabe's wallet you can see a blue condom! So what if they used it? There goes that theory I'm not sure if it is still there after they make passionate love but you can see it certainly when you start a new game? Does anybody know if it's still there after they make love?

Just checked (I was already playing GK3 when this topic started), and it's still there in day 3, so it could entirely be possible. Also, that dialouge IS in the game, it's in the very last movie.

[fov]

hmm. it's been so long since i played GK3 (and i only played it once, unlike GK2 which i have played over and over and over...) Maybe I need to play again and watch for this. Then again, maybe it would only be a disappointment, knowing there probably won't be a GK4.

As for the "thing" in Gabe's wallet:

Spoiler:

does he say anything interesting about the condom if you look at his wallet after they had sex? Something like "oops... I forgot to use that last night!"

just curious.

-emily

[DomStLeger]

Spoiler:

It might not be Gabe's baby.... hehe

[D.C.]

Spoiler:

Wilkes? Probably not.

Grace most likely left because of the status of her relationship with Gabriel Knight (such as the comments she overheard him saying to Mosely) and the awkwardness that followed after they slept together as well as the fact that she had an invitation to India.

[mrdunn]

Originally Posted by fov

As for the "thing" in Gabe's wallet:

Spoiler:

does he say anything interesting about the condom if you look at his wallet after they had sex? Something like "oops... I forgot to use that last night!"

just curious.

-emily

Nope, you can't actually look at it, it's just poking out of his wallet in the close-up. I tried several times, but all I got was "It's my wallet..." Pretty descriptive there...

[neovsmatrix]

So I guess a GK4 novelization won't happen either? That sucks, IMHO.