Your Favourite Underdogs

AFGNCAAP · 11-23-2003, 01:53 PM

A few years ago, Just Adventure published the "Top ten games (almost) no one has played" list. A bit bizarre list if you ask me - it included well-below-average 'Pilgrim' for instance.
Anyway, what are your beloved gems (and I mean real gems not just good games) that never got the attention they deserved? I'd nominate 'Riddle of Master Lu' and 'Death Gate', both truly outstanding adventures (IMHO) from mid-1990's. Anyone played those?

Hiro Protagonist · 11-23-2003, 02:16 PM

Riddle of Master Lu is definately on my list, along w/ Future Wars and Eternam which were totally overshadowed by the Sierra adventures at the time.

11-23-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AFGNCAAP

Anyway, what are your beloved gems (and I mean real gems not just good games) that never got the attention they deserved? I'd nominate 'Riddle of Master Lu' and 'Death Gate', both truly outstanding adventures (IMHO) from mid-1990's. Anyone played those?

Isabelle.

(Riddle of Master Lu was also on that "bizarre" list.)

mycroft · 11-23-2003, 02:21 PM

Lost in Time by Coktel Vision.
Countdown by Access.
Bad Day on the Midway by Inscape

I liked both Future Wars and Death Gate.

hagstrumpa · 11-23-2003, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fienepien

Isabelle.

Fienepien! You are the first person I have heard of that actually liked Isabelle. That is one bizarre game!!!

BacardiJim · 11-23-2003, 07:32 PM

Obsidian
Timelapse
Amber
Faust/7 Games of the Soul
CHAOS: A Fantasy Adventure
Morpheus
Blackstone Chronicles

The Adventurer · 11-23-2003, 08:02 PM

Do

Blade Runner

and

Zork: Nemesis

count?

AGA · 11-23-2003, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mycroft

Lost in Time by Coktel Vision.

Blargh! Lost in Time was so buggy as to be unplayable (the version I had, at least). I had the budget CD version and I never got anywhere near finishing it, because of a fatal error.

11-24-2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hagstrumpa

Fienepien! You are the first person I have heard of that actually liked Isabelle. That is one bizarre game!!!

I know I am, I even say so on my Gametz page.

Quandary has given it a positive review though. It fits the description of a beloved gem that hasn't received the attention it deserves. Beautiful, intriguing story, innovative, emotionally appealing. A work of art. You can watch the colors of the game change at night time. You can switch at any moment between the two protagonists, there are no dialogue trees and hardly any inventory items, which is unique for a third-person game. But the keyboard controls are simply awful.

Erwin_Br · 11-24-2003, 01:40 AM

Duckman: Adventures of a private dick

Flight of the Amazon Queen

Don't know if they qualify as underdog games, though.

--Erwin

Zanthia · 11-24-2003, 03:47 AM

Teenagent

Crime city

Must think of it

Garyos · 11-24-2003, 04:48 AM

The Journeyman Project games are gems. I particualrly like number three. They're seldom mentioned here, though.

ragnar · 11-24-2003, 05:45 AM

Cruise for a Corpse and Operation Stealth.

colpet · 11-24-2003, 05:59 AM

I will ditto B.J.'s list and add Secret of the Luxor, Legends of the Prophet and Assassin, Byzantine the Betrayal, and Lighthouse.

Hiro Protagonist · 11-24-2003, 06:50 AM

I loved Duckman...you're the first person I've heard mention that game in a long time.

Vel · 11-24-2003, 07:32 AM

Definately Igor: Objective Uikokahonia

Garyos · 11-24-2003, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist

I loved Duckman...you're the first person I've heard mention that game in a long time.

Oh yeah, duckman was great! Also way too short...

Keregioz · 11-24-2003, 09:05 AM

I would definately say Black Dahlia.
I've played A LOT adventures and black dahlia is on the top of my favorites list along with Grim fandango, sanitarium and the longest journey.
I think it really should be a classic. If the tex murphy series are classic i don't see why black dahlia shouldn't. I like the story much better on black dahlia than in pandora directive.
I believe the main reason people ignored it or didn't liked it are the puzzles. Some difficult myst-like puzzles and a couple impossible to solve maybe ruined the game for people that just wanted to have some fun and didn't have patience. But the story totally makes up for it.
I strongly recommend it.

Toonstruck was also one very good adventure i haven't heard of it much until i played it.

Garyos · 11-24-2003, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Keregioz

Toonstruck was also one very good adventure i haven't heard of it much until i played it.

Is Toonstruck regarded as an underdog? I guess it is. It was the first Ag I loved, so I guess it's hard for me to believe...

BacardiJim · 11-24-2003, 10:25 AM

I don't think Black Dahlia can really be considered an underdog. It is quite famous and makes many sites' "All Time Greats" list.

I'd agree with Toonstruck. Problem is getting it to play on your computer. I enjoyed Duckman, but it really lacked the edge of the cartoon's humor. I think the Journeyman Project games are likely too famous to be considered underdogs. Heck, they even reissued the first one in a "turbo" version and the entire series in a trilogy pack. GREAT games, though.

And Colpet and I are well-known to have identical tastes in games, so you know that anything Colpet recommends gets my seal of approval too, though I had mixed feelings about Secrets of the Luxor.

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11-23-2003, 02:16 PM	#2
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colpet Easily amused Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,091	I will ditto B.J.'s list and add Secret of the Luxor, Legends of the Prophet and Assassin, Byzantine the Betrayal, and Lighthouse. Share Share this post on Twitter

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Keregioz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Greece Posts: 638	I would definately say Black Dahlia. I've played A LOT adventures and black dahlia is on the top of my favorites list along with Grim fandango, sanitarium and the longest journey. I think it really should be a classic. If the tex murphy series are classic i don't see why black dahlia shouldn't. I like the story much better on black dahlia than in pandora directive. I believe the main reason people ignored it or didn't liked it are the puzzles. Some difficult myst-like puzzles and a couple impossible to solve maybe ruined the game for people that just wanted to have some fun and didn't have patience. But the story totally makes up for it. I strongly recommend it. Toonstruck was also one very good adventure i haven't heard of it much until i played it. Share Share this post on Twitter

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BacardiJim Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,346	I don't think Black Dahlia can really be considered an underdog. It is quite famous and makes many sites' "All Time Greats" list. I'd agree with Toonstruck. Problem is getting it to play on your computer. I enjoyed Duckman, but it really lacked the edge of the cartoon's humor. I think the Journeyman Project games are likely too famous to be considered underdogs. Heck, they even reissued the first one in a "turbo" version and the entire series in a trilogy pack. GREAT games, though. And Colpet and I are well-known to have identical tastes in games, so you know that anything Colpet recommends gets my seal of approval too, though I had mixed feelings about Secrets of the Luxor. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Time flies like the wind; Fruit flies like bananas.

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