Your Favourite Underdogs - Page 2

maladroid · 11-24-2003, 12:35 PM

I haven't finished The Riddle of Master Lu because it has problems running under Win98.. Therefore I can't really say if it is an underestimated gem ot not..

The game I AM sure that deserves that title the most is Toonstruck. Funny story, "as easy as they can get" controls, superb graphics and excellent music. To me it is a complete mystery how a game like this could cause it's company(Burst) to close and it's giant distributor (Virgin) to experience major financial problems for a while.. I mean, what were the gamers thinking???

Discworld:Noir was also terrific and , I think, underestimated and probably the two Manhunters from the older games. Rather unknown for Sierra games I'd say.

Can't think of any others at the moment but I'm pretty sure there are a few more out there..

maladroid · 11-24-2003, 12:38 PM

Oh oh.. I did it again

. Can't seem to get a decent post in this forum.. Sorry guys but this time there was no harm intended.. Guess it's beginner's (bad) luck..

SamandMax · 11-24-2003, 02:44 PM

I've always liked Normality even though a lot of people don't find it that funny, but I did.

Teen Agent is still one of the funniest games I've played.

JB Harold in: Murder Club is almost impossible to find, but well worth the search because it's the best mystery game I've played. PLAY THIS ONE IF YOU CAN!

The Scoop is also an excellent mystery game that's widely unknown, which is a shame. One of the best storyline's I've seen in a game.

Gold Rush is an old Sierra game a lot of people haven't played, which is too bad because it's really fun.

remixor · 11-24-2003, 07:31 PM

I guess I'll second Texallos and say Manhunter. I've never played San Francisco, the second game, but I did enjoy New York back in the day. Certainly not an amazingly great game, but it was fun and it does seem rather an underdog.

Christina · 11-24-2003, 08:14 PM

The Dark Eye is by far the best "underdog" game that I have played. Absolutely incredible.

Keregioz · 11-24-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BacardiJim

I don't think Black Dahlia can really be considered an underdog. It is quite famous and makes many sites' "All Time Greats" list.

Well...ok, it's not really an underdog but from a little research i did the reviews were disappointing and i rarely see it be mentioned here. Anyway the point was that is a very underrated adventure.

Ninth · 11-24-2003, 09:55 PM

Oh, Riddle of Master Lu and Eternam were terrific, and Toonstruck was really good too, but to me the best underdogs of all time are Legend's games. Some of them I put in my top five of adventure games, namely Gateway 2 : Homeworld and Death Gate
But every single one of them is a gem, Gateway, Eric the Unready, Shannara, Mission Critical, ...
I'd say those were the time, and try to sound nostalgic, but back then I went through all gaming stores in France and even in San Francisco when I went there, but couldn't find Death Gate. I only played it last year, but it was worth waiting 7 or so damned years.

Igor · 11-25-2003, 12:23 AM

Duckman, The Gene Machine and Peppers Adventures in Time

Ninth · 11-25-2003, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igor

Duckman, The Gene Machine and Peppers Adventures in Time

The Gene Machine? It wasn't THAT bad, and I guess it's an underdog, but... is it really one of your favorite?

nordic_guy · 11-25-2003, 02:24 AM

Dog Day, from Impact. Not extraordinary, but very amusing. Can't believe I'd almost forgotten it.

BacardiJim · 11-25-2003, 02:53 AM

And I can't believe I'd forgotten both Gateway and Gateway 2. Fantastic games, both. If you haven't played them, hie thee over to HotU and download them NOW!

mycroft · 11-25-2003, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BacardiJim

And I can't believe I'd forgotten both Gateway and Gateway 2. Fantastic games, both. If you haven't played them, hie thee over to HotU and download them NOW!

I thought you guys were not in favour of Abandonware.

Anyways,Lemme add

Darkseed by Inscape
The Gene Machine by Vic Tokai
Hopkins FBI by MP Entertainment

BacardiJim · 11-25-2003, 03:24 AM

Beware the hasty generalization, Mycroft.

That being said, you won't find (as a rule) direct links to abaondonware sites in this forum.

Ninth · 11-25-2003, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BacardiJim

And I can't believe I'd forgotten both Gateway and Gateway 2. Fantastic games, both. If you haven't played them, hie thee over to HotU and download them NOW!

Amen to that.

Gateway 2 is currently struggling against indy 4 for my personal best-adventure-ever award.

AFGNCAAP · 11-25-2003, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mycroft
I thought you guys were not in favour of Abandonware.

I can't agree that HotU is an abandonware site. I mean, they have really strict policies about which games to make available to download. Just show me a store where I can buy - put almost any underdog mentioned above here - not to mention 1980's Infocom masterpieces and I'll go get it legally (it can be a budget release if you wish, or a bonus version sold with a magazine).

Generally, I'm definitely against piracy (well, with an exception of Monkey Island pirates

)

As for the main topic of this thread, I'd forgotten about Prisoner of Ice. Not a masterpiece by any means (much too short, for one thing) but the game had that something...

Hiro Protagonist · 11-25-2003, 08:08 AM

I am fanatical about piracy - especially after programming for the graphics industry only to see some of my work online only hours after its release. But if a product is no longer supported by the publisher and is languishing away, then I say fair game - no pun intended. Were it not for HOTU, there would be many classics that I never got a chance to play - including BASS - because I just couldn't find a copy anywhere. And to be fair, HOTU is happy to pull any game that gets a complaint from a publisher and will post a link to purchase the game if/when it becomes available again.

DFish · 11-25-2003, 08:47 AM

Off the top of my head, some of my underrated favorites are...

Redjack
Dark Earth
The Space Bar
Journeyman Project 3

I'm sure I could think of more.

Leonard Shelby · 11-25-2003, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnar

Cruise for a Corpse and Operation Stealth.

Great choices !

Delphine Software was doing great adventure games at that time and those two were definitively fascinating and engrossing .

Maupiti Island is definitively a fabulous detective mystery 's game and probably my greatest adventure of all time .

Wajus · 12-11-2003, 01:38 AM

Teenagent
Probably the best polish - not just classic - computer game ever made. A true gem sparkling with wit.

Ksiaze&Tchorz (from polish: The Prince & The Coward) aka Galador
Another fine adventure game - a combination of light humor with light fantasy. Unfortunettly it was never given the chance it deserved as it's only available in polish and german.

Woodruff and the Schnibble of Azimuth truly bizzare game with outstanding performance by title hero - Woodruff. Both wacky and humane game. Strange mixture but it tastes great. Some call it Goblins 4 - it's made by Cocktel Vision (it's their last game) but it's very confusing... This game really stands on it's own merits.

Phantom · 12-11-2003, 08:51 AM

Dark Earth most certainly is one of the most underestimated games of all times in all genres, but I don't consider it an adventure, so my vote goes to Conquest of the Longbow, a beautiful adventure many fans have never played (I believe).

11-24-2003, 12:35 PM	#21
maladroid self-distracted Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Groundhog Day Posts: 198	I haven't finished The Riddle of Master Lu because it has problems running under Win98.. Therefore I can't really say if it is an underestimated gem ot not.. The game I AM sure that deserves that title the most is Toonstruck. Funny story, "as easy as they can get" controls, superb graphics and excellent music. To me it is a complete mystery how a game like this could cause it's company(Burst) to close and it's giant distributor (Virgin) to experience major financial problems for a while.. I mean, what were the gamers thinking??? Discworld:Noir was also terrific and , I think, underestimated and probably the two Manhunters from the older games. Rather unknown for Sierra games I'd say. Can't think of any others at the moment but I'm pretty sure there are a few more out there.. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-24-2003, 12:38 PM	#22
maladroid self-distracted Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Groundhog Day Posts: 198	Oh oh.. I did it again . Can't seem to get a decent post in this forum.. Sorry guys but this time there was no harm intended.. Guess it's beginner's (bad) luck.. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-24-2003, 02:44 PM	#23
SamandMax A Slice of Fried Gold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,024	I've always liked Normality even though a lot of people don't find it that funny, but I did. Teen Agent is still one of the funniest games I've played. JB Harold in: Murder Club is almost impossible to find, but well worth the search because it's the best mystery game I've played. PLAY THIS ONE IF YOU CAN! The Scoop is also an excellent mystery game that's widely unknown, which is a shame. One of the best storyline's I've seen in a game. Gold Rush is an old Sierra game a lot of people haven't played, which is too bad because it's really fun. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ SamandMax's Recommended Songs Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball They Might Be Giants - Dog Walker The Kinks - Money Talks Gorillaz - DoYaThing

11-24-2003, 07:31 PM	#24
remixor A search for a crazy man! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 3,987	I guess I'll second Texallos and say Manhunter. I've never played San Francisco, the second game, but I did enjoy New York back in the day. Certainly not an amazingly great game, but it was fun and it does seem rather an underdog. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Chris "News Editor" Remo Some sort of Writer or Editor or Something, Idle Thumbs "Some comparisons are a little less obvious. I always think of Grim Fandango as Casablanca on acid." - Will Wright

11-24-2003, 08:14 PM	#25
Christina Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 187	The Dark Eye is by far the best "underdog" game that I have played. Absolutely incredible. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-24-2003, 09:55 PM	#27
Ninth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Paris, France Posts: 6,409	Oh, Riddle of Master Lu and Eternam were terrific, and Toonstruck was really good too, but to me the best underdogs of all time are Legend's games. Some of them I put in my top five of adventure games, namely Gateway 2 : Homeworld and Death Gate But every single one of them is a gem, Gateway, Eric the Unready, Shannara, Mission Critical, ... I'd say those were the time, and try to sound nostalgic, but back then I went through all gaming stores in France and even in San Francisco when I went there, but couldn't find Death Gate. I only played it last year, but it was worth waiting 7 or so damned years. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ...It's down there somewhere. Let me have another look.

11-25-2003, 12:23 AM	#28
Igor Jumping peanut on a stick Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 364	Duckman, The Gene Machine and Peppers Adventures in Time Share Share this post on Twitter

11-25-2003, 02:24 AM	#30
nordic_guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 1,081	Dog Day, from Impact. Not extraordinary, but very amusing. Can't believe I'd almost forgotten it. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-25-2003, 02:53 AM	#31
BacardiJim Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,346	And I can't believe I'd forgotten both Gateway and Gateway 2. Fantastic games, both. If you haven't played them, hie thee over to HotU and download them NOW! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Time flies like the wind; Fruit flies like bananas.

11-25-2003, 03:24 AM	#33
BacardiJim Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,346	Beware the hasty generalization, Mycroft. That being said, you won't find (as a rule) direct links to abaondonware sites in this forum. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Time flies like the wind; Fruit flies like bananas.

11-25-2003, 08:08 AM	#36
Hiro Protagonist Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 117	I am fanatical about piracy - especially after programming for the graphics industry only to see some of my work online only hours after its release. But if a product is no longer supported by the publisher and is languishing away, then I say fair game - no pun intended. Were it not for HOTU, there would be many classics that I never got a chance to play - including BASS - because I just couldn't find a copy anywhere. And to be fair, HOTU is happy to pull any game that gets a complaint from a publisher and will post a link to purchase the game if/when it becomes available again. Share Share this post on Twitter

11-25-2003, 08:47 AM	#37
DFish Nothing special Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 80	Off the top of my head, some of my underrated favorites are... Redjack Dark Earth The Space Bar Journeyman Project 3 I'm sure I could think of more. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-11-2003, 01:38 AM	#39
Wajus (Va-yoosh) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 392	Teenagent Probably the best polish - not just classic - computer game ever made. A true gem sparkling with wit. Ksiaze&Tchorz (from polish: The Prince & The Coward) aka Galador Another fine adventure game - a combination of light humor with light fantasy. Unfortunettly it was never given the chance it deserved as it's only available in polish and german. Woodruff and the Schnibble of Azimuth truly bizzare game with outstanding performance by title hero - Woodruff. Both wacky and humane game. Strange mixture but it tastes great. Some call it Goblins 4 - it's made by Cocktel Vision (it's their last game) but it's very confusing... This game really stands on it's own merits. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "To be! To be sure beats the shit out of not to be!" - John Belushi

12-11-2003, 08:51 AM	#40
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 466	Dark Earth most certainly is one of the most underestimated games of all times in all genres, but I don't consider it an adventure, so my vote goes to Conquest of the Longbow, a beautiful adventure many fans have never played (I believe). Share Share this post on Twitter

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