Sonic returning in 2D

DustyShinigami · 09-09-2009, 02:56 AM

Looks like SEGA have been listening to their fans (after all this time) and are bringing Sonic the Hedgehog back in glorious HD 2D!

AndreaDraco83 · 09-09-2009, 03:02 AM

Yay for the blue porcupine!

I adored Sonic back then, when I was the proud owner of a MedaDrive

DustyShinigami · 09-09-2009, 03:52 AM

Classic gaming console. I remember when I was about four or five, I got out of the bath one evening, and there it was connected up to the TV. My mum and dad had bought one for me and my brother as a present. The first Megadrive game we had/played was Sonic 2. Whilst me and my brother were ecstatic, my mum wasn't happy. She was afraid that video games would take over our lives. I guess she was right.

geggis · 09-09-2009, 07:05 AM

Haha, I think she was!

I had a SNES first with Starwing/fox then swapped it for a Megadrive and loved the Sonic games. The thing that I loved the most about those games was how the music loops were so short yet were catchy as hell and didn't annoy the crap out of you. Now that's some serious aural mastery. I remember getting sad at the beginning of the Winged Fortress level because Tails went down in the plane. I thought he was dead but then he returned on the Death Egg level!

MoriartyL · 09-09-2009, 07:32 AM

I think Sega is totally missing the point. The problem was never 3D. It's that they stuffed in so much nonsense that had nothing to do with running fast, nonsense which just distracted from the good parts and wasted the player's time. That problem started when they moved to 3D, because suddenly the team size was much bigger and they could afford to stick in random nonsense. If they switch to 2D but don't restore focus, it'll still be just as muddled a game as the last few.

There will still be long and unskippable cutscenes, there will still be more minigames than gameplay, there will still be a large and tedious overworld, there will still be RPG-like advancement, there will still be multiple characters, and it'll still be a lousy game. But it'll be back in 2D. Whoop-dee-doo.

heribertovalle · 09-09-2009, 09:36 AM

Well sonic is a cute concept and all but it's hard to get excited when a developer says "We're returning to our roots, in the dire hope we'll make something worthy again"

I used to enjoy sonic, oh well.

DustyShinigami · 09-09-2009, 01:15 PM

Hm, it is possible that, even though it goes back to 2D, it could still be crap. As MoriartyL said, the game could still be full of nonsense considering what the 3D games are like. I was happy when it was Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, but then in the more recent Sonic games, SEGA decided to add loads of other stupid/uninteresting characters and scenarios. Were-Hog, anyone?

I also hate Dr. Robotnik's name change - Dr. Eggman.

The first proper 3D Sonic game I played was Sonic Heros for the PS2. Did not like it. I think I managed to get near the end, but I gave up and lost interest. The move to 3D, cack gameplay and levels, constantly dying because I could never see how close to an edge I was (thanks to how fast you're going and the camera), given shite scores at the end of each level (no matter how fast or well you think you did), the new characters and the horrendous voice acting, just made the experience... ugh.

I guess we'll just have to see what this new will be like.

geggis · 09-10-2009, 07:26 AM

Crap characters, mini games and gimmicks aside I've never been able to see how a Sonic game could work in 3D. As a huge fan of F-Zero GX I know how tough merely driving at silly speeds is never mind collecting rings, hitting enemies and doing tricky jumps. The thrill in 3D is immense but controlling the little blue blur would be a pain. My only suggestion would be to make worlds that are huge and open with zero pop up, envisage Flower or Shadow of the Colossus style vistas hurtling along like Space Harrier or Super Hang On. I don't know but that's the thing that made Mario a much 'easier' game to develop logistically: his adventures never relied on speed so platforming was a much easier task. Of course it doesn't help that Sega missed the point so monumentally either.

J.H · 09-10-2009, 07:38 AM

I first played Sonic on my Master System, it was built into the console, if you started it with no cartridge in Sonic would automatically play lol.

DustyShinigami · 02-04-2010, 04:58 AM

*bump*

It looks like we'll be getting a true sequel to Sonic the Hedgehog 3 on XBLA, PSN and WiiWare.

Looky here.

09-09-2009, 02:56 AM	#1
DustyShinigami The Quiet One Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,986	Sonic returning in 2D Looks like SEGA have been listening to their fans (after all this time) and are bringing Sonic the Hedgehog back in glorious HD 2D! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now Playing: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut (DS and iPhone), DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All, Silent Hill - HD Collection Recently Completed: Max Payne, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Next: Bayonetta, Devil May Cry - HD Collection, Max Payne 3, Metal Gear Solid - HD Collection, Silent Hill: Downpour

09-09-2009, 03:02 AM	#2
AndreaDraco83 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 2,684	Yay for the blue porcupine! I adored Sonic back then, when I was the proud owner of a MedaDrive Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Top Ten Adventures: Gabriel Knight Series, King's Quest VI, Conquests of the Longbow, Quest for Glory II, Police Quest III, Gold Rush!, Leisure Suit Larry III, Under a Killing Moon, Conquests of Camelot, Freddy Pharkas Frontier Pharmacist. Now Playing: Neverwinter Nights, Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box

09-09-2009, 03:52 AM	#3
DustyShinigami The Quiet One Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,986	Classic gaming console. I remember when I was about four or five, I got out of the bath one evening, and there it was connected up to the TV. My mum and dad had bought one for me and my brother as a present. The first Megadrive game we had/played was Sonic 2. Whilst me and my brother were ecstatic, my mum wasn't happy. She was afraid that video games would take over our lives. I guess she was right. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now Playing: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut (DS and iPhone), DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All, Silent Hill - HD Collection Recently Completed: Max Payne, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Next: Bayonetta, Devil May Cry - HD Collection, Max Payne 3, Metal Gear Solid - HD Collection, Silent Hill: Downpour

09-09-2009, 07:05 AM	#4
geggis the midnight rambler Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 218	Haha, I think she was! I had a SNES first with Starwing/fox then swapped it for a Megadrive and loved the Sonic games. The thing that I loved the most about those games was how the music loops were so short yet were catchy as hell and didn't annoy the crap out of you. Now that's some serious aural mastery. I remember getting sad at the beginning of the Winged Fortress level because Tails went down in the plane. I thought he was dead but then he returned on the Death Egg level! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now playing: Demon's Souls & UFO: Enemy Unknown Next game: AI Wars: Fleet Command, Sanitarium or Broken Sword. Favourite games: Planescape: Torment, Day of the Tentacle, Portal, World of Goo, Thief: The Dark Project

09-09-2009, 07:32 AM	#5
MoriartyL Not like them! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 2,570	I think Sega is totally missing the point. The problem was never 3D. It's that they stuffed in so much nonsense that had nothing to do with running fast, nonsense which just distracted from the good parts and wasted the player's time. That problem started when they moved to 3D, because suddenly the team size was much bigger and they could afford to stick in random nonsense. If they switch to 2D but don't restore focus, it'll still be just as muddled a game as the last few. There will still be long and unskippable cutscenes, there will still be more minigames than gameplay, there will still be a large and tedious overworld, there will still be RPG-like advancement, there will still be multiple characters, and it'll still be a lousy game. But it'll be back in 2D. Whoop-dee-doo. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ -Mory My first game My second game My third game

09-09-2009, 09:36 AM	#6
heribertovalle Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alton, Texas Posts: 79	Well sonic is a cute concept and all but it's hard to get excited when a developer says "We're returning to our roots, in the dire hope we'll make something worthy again" I used to enjoy sonic, oh well. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Imagineer games: Imagineers of flights of fancy Shades of Violet: Song of the Clockwork Princess - Real soon!

09-09-2009, 01:15 PM	#7
DustyShinigami The Quiet One Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,986	Hm, it is possible that, even though it goes back to 2D, it could still be crap. As MoriartyL said, the game could still be full of nonsense considering what the 3D games are like. I was happy when it was Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, but then in the more recent Sonic games, SEGA decided to add loads of other stupid/uninteresting characters and scenarios. Were-Hog, anyone? I also hate Dr. Robotnik's name change - Dr. Eggman. The first proper 3D Sonic game I played was Sonic Heros for the PS2. Did not like it. I think I managed to get near the end, but I gave up and lost interest. The move to 3D, cack gameplay and levels, constantly dying because I could never see how close to an edge I was (thanks to how fast you're going and the camera), given shite scores at the end of each level (no matter how fast or well you think you did), the new characters and the horrendous voice acting, just made the experience... ugh. I guess we'll just have to see what this new will be like. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now Playing: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut (DS and iPhone), DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All, Silent Hill - HD Collection Recently Completed: Max Payne, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Next: Bayonetta, Devil May Cry - HD Collection, Max Payne 3, Metal Gear Solid - HD Collection, Silent Hill: Downpour Last edited by DustyShinigami; 09-09-2009 at 01:24 PM.

09-10-2009, 07:26 AM	#8
geggis the midnight rambler Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 218	Crap characters, mini games and gimmicks aside I've never been able to see how a Sonic game could work in 3D. As a huge fan of F-Zero GX I know how tough merely driving at silly speeds is never mind collecting rings, hitting enemies and doing tricky jumps. The thrill in 3D is immense but controlling the little blue blur would be a pain. My only suggestion would be to make worlds that are huge and open with zero pop up, envisage Flower or Shadow of the Colossus style vistas hurtling along like Space Harrier or Super Hang On. I don't know but that's the thing that made Mario a much 'easier' game to develop logistically: his adventures never relied on speed so platforming was a much easier task. Of course it doesn't help that Sega missed the point so monumentally either. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now playing: Demon's Souls & UFO: Enemy Unknown Next game: AI Wars: Fleet Command, Sanitarium or Broken Sword. Favourite games: Planescape: Torment, Day of the Tentacle, Portal, World of Goo, Thief: The Dark Project

09-10-2009, 07:38 AM	#9
J.H Frak. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 485	I first played Sonic on my Master System, it was built into the console, if you started it with no cartridge in Sonic would automatically play lol. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "Run, you pigeons. It's Robert Frost." Sabotage

02-04-2010, 04:58 AM	#10
DustyShinigami The Quiet One Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 1,986	Sonic the Hedgehog 4 bump It looks like we'll be getting a true sequel to Sonic the Hedgehog 3 on XBLA, PSN and WiiWare. Looky here. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Now Playing: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut (DS and iPhone), DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All, Silent Hill - HD Collection Recently Completed: Max Payne, Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne Next: Bayonetta, Devil May Cry - HD Collection, Max Payne 3, Metal Gear Solid - HD Collection, Silent Hill: Downpour

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