[jimsta]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Is the scalability of opponents tied to your level?

Yup. A *lot* of people @ the official elderscrolls forums are up in arms over this, as it makes combat extremely difficult for non-combat characters as you level up -- i.e., you're increasing lockingpicking, stealth, mercantile skills while the baddies are only increasing in their combat-specific skills. You could always turn down the difficulty slider, but (to me anyways) this seems like a bit of a cop-out and exposes a design flaw.

[bysmitty]

Exaclty, hence the reason I am not going to level unless I absolutly have to. I'm currently at level 4 and combat is already getting annoying. Even if Bethesda doesn't address this issue (which I'm fairly confident they will in a patch), the modding community surly will. Hell, I read there is already a nude patch. A scalability patch can't be far behind.

...bysmitty

[Karmillo]

Originally Posted by bysmitty

Hell, I read there is already a nude patch.

WHEEEEAAARE!?

[jjacob]

I'm at level 12 and enjoy the gradually more difficult enemies I haven't played a dungeon yet that really exhausted my health - the 3x sneak attack bonus is quite a thing if you've got enough sneak and blade/blunt/marksman skill

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by jjacob

I'm at level 12 and enjoy the gradually more difficult enemies I haven't played a dungeon yet that really exhausted my health - the 3x sneak attack bonus is quite a thing if you've got enough sneak and blade/blunt/marksman skill

Which class are you playing, and what are your Blunt, blade and marksman levels?

[Fop]

I agree that the enemy scalability is problematic. It should not be scrapped though, the system just needs some tweaking. In any case it's much preferable to Morrowind's static enemies.

[jjacob]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

Which class are you playing, and what are your Blunt, blade and marksman levels?

Well off-hand (I don't spend much time looking at my stats so I'll get back to you on that later) my blunt is like 25 orso (don't use that much, unless I'm feeling like wantonly clubbing through a dungeon), blade around 54 (I think, might as well be my sneak skill ) and marksman 50. I made a custom class that the game aptly named "Adventurer", with a Thief Birthsign and the race is Redguard. I've done quite a few Dungeons, mainly whenever I encounter one, plus a lot of subquests for the guilds and stuff. I've put the main quest on hold a bit, I've only closed one Oblivion gate so far.

I like sneaking a lot, and can now pickpocket most people without them noticing, but it also allows me to quickly dispatch of enemies with the bow, usually before they get the chance to attack me with a blade/blunt weapon

Anyway, so far I haven't found the scalability much of a problem - without it the game would become way too easy way too fast. Perhaps they should tweak it a little bit, but I wouldn't care much if they didn't.

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by jjacob

Well off-hand (I don't spend much time looking at my stats so I'll get back to you on that later) my blunt is like 25 orso (don't use that much, unless I'm feeling like wantonly clubbing through a dungeon), blade around 54 (I think, might as well be my sneak skill ) and marksman 50. I made a custom class that the game aptly named "Adventurer", with a Thief Birthsign and the race is Redguard. I've done quite a few Dungeons, mainly whenever I encounter one, plus a lot of subquests for the guilds and stuff. I've put the main quest on hold a bit, I've only closed one Oblivion gate so far.

I like sneaking a lot, and can now pickpocket most people without them noticing, but it also allows me to quickly dispatch of enemies with the bow, usually before they get the chance to attack me with a blade/blunt weapon

Anyway, so far I haven't found the scalability much of a problem - without it the game would become way too easy way too fast. Perhaps they should tweak it a little bit, but I wouldn't care much if they didn't.

I think I will quit levelling up by not sleeping like bysmitty suggested. I can't go right now into any cave, because my ass gets beaten by even timber wolves.

The levelling up is definitely flawed and favors aggressive gameplay.

[jjacob]

Originally Posted by SoccerDude28

I think I will quit levelling up by not sleeping like bysmitty suggested. I can't go right now into any cave, because my ass gets beaten by even timber wolves.

The levelling up is definitely flawed and favors aggressive gameplay.

The first person combat can get a little clumsy now and then (which is why I prefer the bow), but once you've gotten the hang of blocking/attacking at the right moment it's actually pretty fun. Once you get very proficient in blocking you'll also be able to throw back opponents simply by blocking their attacks, or so I've read. Magic is also quite handy when you're in a tight spot (and not just the healing kind), which is why I'm going to collect all Mages Guild recommendations to get to Arcane University and get my hands on some ass whooping spells before I proceed with the main quest

[avatar_58]

I don't mind the scaling, because Morrowind got boring VERY quickly once everything died in one swipe. It made the main quest pointless to me, with scaling monsters at least this time they put up a fight. I tend to do everything including combat so its not been an issue for me.

[jjacob]

Yep, never played Morrowing but KOTOR (&2) just got so easy combat got boring at one point. If you really took up the sidequests you'd be able to "Force Storm" a group of enemies before they even reached you I didn't mind at first, since I played it mainly for the story and such, but once you'd get past level 25 orso (Atleast I think that was a lot, could've been 15 or 35.. eitherway) the combat just got monotonous.

[insane_cobra]

So people, what is spellcasting like? I know you don't have to enter the spellcasting mode anymore, but is per level damage back in? I didn't like the system they introduced in Morrowind, it made offensive spells practically useless.

[SoccerDude28]

Originally Posted by jjacob

The first person combat can get a little clumsy now and then (which is why I prefer the bow), but once you've gotten the hang of blocking/attacking at the right moment it's actually pretty fun. Once you get very proficient in blocking you'll also be able to throw back opponents simply by blocking their attacks, or so I've read. Magic is also quite handy when you're in a tight spot (and not just the healing kind), which is why I'm going to collect all Mages Guild recommendations to get to Arcane University and get my hands on some ass whooping spells before I proceed with the main quest

Okay so I went back and scrapped my old game, because my thief was not going anywhere.
I instead created my own class (the Terminator ) with all the 7 major skills related to combat (destruction, blunt, blade, heavy armor, block, marksmanship and conjuration). This way, any sneaking, lock picking, speechcraft, mercantile, or alchemy won't cause me to level up. The only way I can level up is if I actually fight (which in turn boosts my fighting skills). So far I am only at level 1 and am kicking ass I seriously think Bethesda should release a patch for the non-violent classes to be able to play and enjoy this game. Maybe something in the line of, if you only level up your major fighting skills will the enemies levels increase, regardless of the level you are at.

[Fop]

Spellcasting is easy to use, handy, effective and awesome.

[insane_cobra]

Great, but what about per level damage? For instance, offensive spells in Daggerfall had basic damage and per level damage. So if you had a spell with, say, 1 to 5 basic and 2 to 5 per level damage, the total for a level 2 character would be 1 to 5 + 2*(2 to 5) = 5 to 15, and for a level 10 character 1 to 5 + 10*(2 to 5) = 21 to 55. They used a different system in Morrowind so I'd like to know what it's like in Oblivion, especially since the opponents are scalable.

[Tanukitsune]

Ok.... My Collector's Edition is here.... With NO Spetimus Coin!

What the?

Am I the only one without the coin?

[bysmitty]

I dunno' Tan. I skipped on the Collector's edition this time since it didn't include the soundtrack (purchasable at www.directsong.com) and the rest of the contents didn't really interest me much. You might want to let Bethesda know about the missing coin since the CE only came with 3 extra items to begin with. That is 1/3 of your package. I'd be pissed.

...bysmitty

[Tanukitsune]

Originally Posted by bysmitty

I dunno' Tan. I skipped on the Collector's edition this time since it didn't include the soundtrack (purchasable at www.directsong.com) and the rest of the contents didn't really interest me much. You might want to let Bethesda know about the missing coin since the CE only came with 3 extra items to begin with. That is 1/3 of your package. I'd be pissed.

...bysmitty

I'm hoping Play.com will be sending me the missing coin directly, instead of me having to mail the game over to the UK for a replacement....

EDIT: GREAT! Now the game has control issues and I start walking back and left after a while...

[Hammerite]

o yay!
i just obtain'd it in the post BUT it turns out i was SURE that my graphics card was supported... well... uh... I WAS DAM WRONG!!

must get new one.
new power supply too.

[bysmitty]

Originally Posted by Hammerite

o yay!
i just obtain'd it in the post BUT it turns out i was SURE that my graphics card was supported... well... uh... I WAS DAM WRONG!!

must get new one.
new power supply too.

What are your specs?
CPU:
MEM:
Vid Card:
Power:
Upgrade Budget:

...bysmitty