Saddam has been caught!

ysbreker · 12-14-2003, 12:13 AM

This thread is probably not the first source where you hear that El chiefo from Iraq has been caught, but there you have it, he has been caught!

Now I wonder where they will keep him and what they will do with him...

ragnar · 12-14-2003, 12:23 AM

It will probably be nothing less than what they do to those prisoners at Guantanamo.

Crunchy in milk · 12-14-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ysbreker

Now I wonder where they will keep him and what they will do with him...

He's due in court

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...086173123.html

Kolzig · 12-14-2003, 12:32 AM

Yep, they just showed video of him on Euronews channel

He had a mighty beard, and they took dna test from his beard to determine if he was Saddam Hussein.

He was confirmed to be Saddam Hussein.
They shaved him and compared a archive picture of him to him now.

The former Iraq leader is now caught.

Hmm, they say he will be sent to a Iraqian tribunal court.

DomStLeger · 12-14-2003, 12:33 AM

It's good news hes been caught. But this is no victory for the coalition, as much as they are going to paint it as one. Our soldiers have been dieing for this mess. Only one thing can even begin to justify it all - Weapons of Mass Destruction, and if there had been any of any threat to us we'd have found something by now.

Saddam's arrest is too little too late, especially for all those soldiers out there who have given their lives for this farce.

ragnar · 12-14-2003, 12:37 AM

I think that is a little unfair Dom, isn't it worth anything that for the Iraqi people to get rid of Saddam and his regime?

Starflux · 12-14-2003, 12:41 AM

I think it's good news. One less dictator on the loose in the world.

Mattsius · 12-14-2003, 12:44 AM

The Iraqi people are probably very happy to know that Saddam can't do anything to them anymore, but the people that have been killing American and English soldiers since the war ended, haven't necessarily been lead by Saddam. Actually, I'm pretty certain that Saddam has had a pretty small roll in these attacks. What I'm getting at here is that the attacks won't stop just because Saddam is captured. The soldiers will still have a hell of a hard time trying to keep order in Iraq.

***Marek*** · 12-14-2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flux

I think it's good news. One less dictator on the loose in the world.

Yeah!! Now let's get rid of Bu... oh, sorry, I don't want to spoil the moment for anyone. Bad Saddam. Bad!

Seriously, it's good that he's captured. Now we can hopefully close that whole chapter. It's not often that they actually get the guy who was in charge. I mean, they got Milosevic, but other than that, evil smelly bastards somehow manage to escape justice quite frequently.

Zygomaticus · 12-14-2003, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Marek

Yeah!! Now let's get rid of Bu... oh, sorry, I don't want to spoil the moment for anyone. Bad Saddam. Bad!

Seriously, it's good that he's captured. Now we can hopefully close that whole chapter. It's not often that they actually get the guy who was in charge. I mean, they got Milosevic, but other than that, evil smelly bastards somehow manage to escape justice quite frequently.

Bubanoko? Yes, he needs to be taken out too....

DomStLeger · 12-14-2003, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ragnar

I think that is a little unfair Dom, isn't it worth anything that for the Iraqi people to get rid of Saddam and his regime?

What the US and Britain did wasn't right yesterday, isn't right today and won't be right tomorrow.

Zygomaticus · 12-14-2003, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DomStLeger

and won't be right tomorrow.

You never know. Slavery was considered okay back in the 1700s. Today, it is looked upon as one of the worst man to man offences in History. Time changes.

Wormsie · 12-14-2003, 08:37 AM

That depends on who you asked. The public opinion was even more stupid back then than it is today.

***tabacco*** · 12-14-2003, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deadworm222

That depends on who you asked. The public opinion was even more stupid back then than it is today.

Yeah, but only by today's standards. That's the thing... Standards change.

Curt · 12-14-2003, 09:17 AM

Dom's right, the Coalitions will use Saddams capture to claim some sort of Victory, which it is for the Iraqi people of course, but the Bush (in particular with 11 months to elections) and Blair administrations will undoubtedly use the capture only for their own political means.

Another disgusting aspect of how the Coalition, led by the Bush administration, is manipulating the whole Iraq situation is in their handling of commercial contracts - allowing only those that helped financially or militarily to bid for them. This is all about profit for those who helped.

I thought we were told the liberation was all done for the freedom of the Iraqi people - that's why the US and others commited money and troops - not to make a profit out of the country at the cost of the populace. Clearly this wasn't the case - just as many suspected.

Just as the sanctions imposed on Iraq affected those most vunerable, I suspect future commercial decisions will do much the same and in the process a small minority of Iraqis and foreigners will bleed the country dry. Money and power corrupts and at this very moment there is plenty of both up for grabs within Iraq.

D.C. · 12-14-2003, 09:21 AM

This is awesome news!

I've been smiling since I heard it on CNN about ten minutes ago. When this war broke out I established that I definately support Bush and the Coalition of the Willing... I'm not going to elaborate on this stance again.

We Got Him!

Erwin_Br · 12-14-2003, 09:44 AM

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What the US and Britain did wasn't right yesterday, isn't right today and won't be right tomorrow

You know, there were people during World War 2 who said the exact same thing about GB and the US...

--Erwin

Starflux · 12-14-2003, 10:23 AM

Yes, that would be the nazi's.

DomStLeger · 12-14-2003, 10:37 AM

Ok let me put it this way then:

A terrible and evil man has been caught and will now pay for his crimes. But at what cost? Britain and America declared war just because they felt they were right; they didn't mange to prove they were right before the war, nor have they done so since. One cruel dictatorship is gone, but so has the stability the world tried to build since the end of the 2nd World War and Cold War, even if it was a pathetic stability. Has removing Saddam Hussein by the methods used really improved world stability?

We were told before the war he was a danger to the world, with weapons that could kill millions. It appears he had no such weapons and couldn't even defend himself.

Instead their interference has managed to anger the middle east further and create a hotbed of terrorism and hatred of the west. They've undermined the U.N. so that it has no meaningful role in world peace any more. They've set a precedent on "regieme change" and unilateral military action. Theyve managed to anger most of the rest of the free world, and made themselves into hypocrits - can the US and UK ever again be taken seriously when brokering peace for example?

I fear the genie the US & co have let out of the bottle is far worse than anything Saddam Hussein could have come up with. I'm glad hes been captured but I don't think it justifys a single thing the Americans and Brits have done, and I fear we live in a much more dangerous world. So I will not join George Bush or Tony Blair as they gloat and use this to maximum political affect. I'm glad the Iraqi people can start to feel safe again, but thats it. I fear for the lives in the future that will be lost as a consequnce of my country's actions.

Erwin_Br · 12-14-2003, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DomStLeger

Ok let me put it this way then:

A terrible and evil man has been caught and will now pay for his crimes. But at what cost? Britain and America declared war just because they felt they were right; they didn't mange to prove they were right before the war, nor have they done so since. One cruel dictatorship is gone, but so has the stability the world tried to build since the end of the 2nd World War and Cold War, even if it was a pathetic stability. Has removing Saddam Hussein by the methods used really improved world stability?

You said it yourself: a pathetic stability. A fake stability. Did they really made things more unstable? I don't think so. Sooner or later that bubble was going to burst, with our without interference by the US.

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We were told before the war he was a danger to the world, with weapons that could kill millions. It appears he had no such weapons and couldn't even defend himself.

So as long as he's not an enemy to the world, a danger to us in our comfy homes, we shouldn't mind his business?

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Instead their interference has managed to anger the middle east further and create a hotbed of terrorism and hatred of the west. They've undermined the U.N. so that it has no meaningful role in world peace any more. They've set a precedent on "regieme change" and unilateral military action. Theyve managed to anger most of the rest of the free world, and made themselves into hypocrits - can the US and UK ever again be taken seriously when brokering peace for example?

The EU has made itself look bad by not being anonymous in it's opinions. I can't blame the US for passing us by if we can't make up our damned minds. Can the EU ever be taken seriously again?

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I fear the genie the US & co have let out of the bottle is far worse than anything Saddam Hussein could have come up with. I'm glad hes been captured but I don't think it justifys a single thing the Americans and Brits have done, and I fear we live in a much more dangerous world. So I will not join George Bush or Tony Blair as they gloat and use this to maximum political affect. I'm glad the Iraqi people can start to feel safe again, but thats it. I fear for the lives in the future that will be lost as a consequnce of my country's actions.

Well, at least they did *something*. I haven't seen any action whatsoever from the rest of the world. No, as long as the violence doesn't reach their backyards they shouldn't do anything, right? Iraq is far, far away from our safe beds. Well, I'm damned glad people didn't think that way when we were occupied by the Germans in 1940/45.

--Erwin

12-14-2003, 12:13 AM	#1
ysbreker Joop Sloop Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: next to my PC Posts: 295	Saddam has been caught! This thread is probably not the first source where you hear that El chiefo from Iraq has been caught, but there you have it, he has been caught! Now I wonder where they will keep him and what they will do with him... Share Share this post on Twitter

12-14-2003, 12:23 AM	#2
ragnar Knowledgeable Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 1,510	It will probably be nothing less than what they do to those prisoners at Guantanamo. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Rem acu tetigisti -- Jeeves Read my adventure game reviews here Blaskan Dragon Go Server Ragnar Ouchterlony

12-14-2003, 12:32 AM	#4
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	Yep, they just showed video of him on Euronews channel He had a mighty beard, and they took dna test from his beard to determine if he was Saddam Hussein. He was confirmed to be Saddam Hussein. They shaved him and compared a archive picture of him to him now. The former Iraq leader is now caught. Hmm, they say he will be sent to a Iraqian tribunal court. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-14-2003, 12:33 AM	#5
DomStLeger Whinging Pom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, England, UK Posts: 1,032	It's good news hes been caught. But this is no victory for the coalition, as much as they are going to paint it as one. Our soldiers have been dieing for this mess. Only one thing can even begin to justify it all - Weapons of Mass Destruction, and if there had been any of any threat to us we'd have found something by now. Saddam's arrest is too little too late, especially for all those soldiers out there who have given their lives for this farce. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Dom Currently Playing Tex Murphey - Under a Killing Moon (YAY GOG.com!) Recently Completed Broken Sword Director's Cut Still Get Mozilla Firefox! Forget that Chrome and IE rubbish!

12-14-2003, 12:37 AM	#6
ragnar Knowledgeable Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 1,510	I think that is a little unfair Dom, isn't it worth anything that for the Iraqi people to get rid of Saddam and his regime? Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Rem acu tetigisti -- Jeeves Read my adventure game reviews here Blaskan Dragon Go Server Ragnar Ouchterlony

12-14-2003, 12:41 AM	#7
Starflux A Servicable Villain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the ocean spire Posts: 1,730	I think it's good news. One less dictator on the loose in the world. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Visit my webcomic Captain August!

12-14-2003, 12:44 AM	#8
Mattsius Mostly absent Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 2,532	The Iraqi people are probably very happy to know that Saddam can't do anything to them anymore, but the people that have been killing American and English soldiers since the war ended, haven't necessarily been lead by Saddam. Actually, I'm pretty certain that Saddam has had a pretty small roll in these attacks. What I'm getting at here is that the attacks won't stop just because Saddam is captured. The soldiers will still have a hell of a hard time trying to keep order in Iraq. Share Share this post on Twitter

12-14-2003, 08:37 AM	#13
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	That depends on who you asked. The public opinion was even more stupid back then than it is today. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor.

12-14-2003, 09:17 AM	#15
Curt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Englander in Munich Posts: 1,025	Dom's right, the Coalitions will use Saddams capture to claim some sort of Victory, which it is for the Iraqi people of course, but the Bush (in particular with 11 months to elections) and Blair administrations will undoubtedly use the capture only for their own political means. Another disgusting aspect of how the Coalition, led by the Bush administration, is manipulating the whole Iraq situation is in their handling of commercial contracts - allowing only those that helped financially or militarily to bid for them. This is all about profit for those who helped. I thought we were told the liberation was all done for the freedom of the Iraqi people - that's why the US and others commited money and troops - not to make a profit out of the country at the cost of the populace. Clearly this wasn't the case - just as many suspected. Just as the sanctions imposed on Iraq affected those most vunerable, I suspect future commercial decisions will do much the same and in the process a small minority of Iraqis and foreigners will bleed the country dry. Money and power corrupts and at this very moment there is plenty of both up for grabs within Iraq. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "Of please! Looking at how sexy, beautiful, and womanly meg is, why the hell would anyone need Viagra?" - Intrepid Homosapiens sapiens (made her Valentines Day btw - you big romantic, Trep.)

12-14-2003, 09:21 AM	#16
D.C. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,773	This is awesome news! I've been smiling since I heard it on CNN about ten minutes ago. When this war broke out I established that I definately support Bush and the Coalition of the Willing... I'm not going to elaborate on this stance again. We Got Him! Share Share this post on Twitter Last edited by SerialFreak; 12-14-2003 at 09:37 AM.

12-14-2003, 10:23 AM	#18
Starflux A Servicable Villain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the ocean spire Posts: 1,730	Yes, that would be the nazi's. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Visit my webcomic Captain August!

12-14-2003, 10:37 AM	#19
DomStLeger Whinging Pom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, England, UK Posts: 1,032	Ok let me put it this way then: A terrible and evil man has been caught and will now pay for his crimes. But at what cost? Britain and America declared war just because they felt they were right; they didn't mange to prove they were right before the war, nor have they done so since. One cruel dictatorship is gone, but so has the stability the world tried to build since the end of the 2nd World War and Cold War, even if it was a pathetic stability. Has removing Saddam Hussein by the methods used really improved world stability? We were told before the war he was a danger to the world, with weapons that could kill millions. It appears he had no such weapons and couldn't even defend himself. Instead their interference has managed to anger the middle east further and create a hotbed of terrorism and hatred of the west. They've undermined the U.N. so that it has no meaningful role in world peace any more. They've set a precedent on "regieme change" and unilateral military action. Theyve managed to anger most of the rest of the free world, and made themselves into hypocrits - can the US and UK ever again be taken seriously when brokering peace for example? I fear the genie the US & co have let out of the bottle is far worse than anything Saddam Hussein could have come up with. I'm glad hes been captured but I don't think it justifys a single thing the Americans and Brits have done, and I fear we live in a much more dangerous world. So I will not join George Bush or Tony Blair as they gloat and use this to maximum political affect. I'm glad the Iraqi people can start to feel safe again, but thats it. I fear for the lives in the future that will be lost as a consequnce of my country's actions. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Dom Currently Playing Tex Murphey - Under a Killing Moon (YAY GOG.com!) Recently Completed Broken Sword Director's Cut Still Get Mozilla Firefox! Forget that Chrome and IE rubbish!

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