Is adventure dead (as a genre)?

ILoveYou · 07-05-2005, 10:48 AM

Alot of people say this. I don't really know. All I know is that it's really hard to find a good adventure game these days. Only one since Gabriel Knight 3 that I've been really satisfied was Still Life. What do u think?

[toj.cc]Phantom · 07-05-2005, 10:53 AM

I think that most companies are to worried about graphics and the like. Another reason is that they are also trying to keep up with the growing popularity of FPS. Add that along with the fact that LucasArts seems to be focusing on RPG's and that Sierra was bought, you get the reason why.

squarejawhero · 07-05-2005, 10:54 AM

No. Read the front page and look at all the people joining and posting here and at other sites like Gameboomers and JA+, plus the press coverage of biggies like Dreamfall and Farenheit.

***fov*** · 07-05-2005, 11:12 AM

I think Marek put it best:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adventure Gamers FAQ

Haven't you heard the adventure genre is dead?
We have never heard of this. Honestly.

Ninth · 07-05-2005, 11:14 AM

Man, I've been missing this!
So no, it's not dead, it's just resting.

insane_cobra · 07-05-2005, 11:27 AM

It's gone fishing.

Intrepid Homoludens · 07-05-2005, 11:30 AM

Click on fishing pole
Go into inventory.
Click on line.
Click on lure.
Combine line with lure.
Combine with fishing pole.
Click fishing pole on lake.
Wait.

07-05-2005, 11:37 AM

Of course it is. Why else would Tim Schafer not be making them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by G4TV's Xplay

Almost nobady makes these anymore... You want proof that it's dead? Well, Tim Schafer, the creator of adventure classics such as Monkey Island and Grim Fandango isn't even making these. He's making Pschonauts. In other words, daddy left his genre

Funny. Dumbasses.

Lucien21 · 07-05-2005, 11:43 AM

'it's not pinin'! 'it's passed on! This genre is no more! It has ceased
to be! 'it's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'it's a stiff! Bereft
of life, 'it rests in peace! If you hadn't released Still Life 'it'd be
pushing up the daisies! 'Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'it's off
the twig! 'it's kicked the bucket, 'it's shuffled off 'its mortal coil, run
down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-GENRE!!

NOT

Kolorabi · 07-05-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbasses

Well, Tim Schafer, the creator of adventure classics such as Monkey Island and Grim Fandango isn't even making these.

Tim Schafer created Monkey Island now?

samIamsad · 07-05-2005, 12:08 PM

Adventure isn't dead. Genre is.

Hammerite · 07-05-2005, 12:08 PM

he just wrote all those cool reactions to looking at stuff.

Wormsie · 07-05-2005, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILoveYou

Alot of people say this. I don't really know. All I know is that it's really hard to find a good adventure game these days. Only one since Gabriel Knight 3 that I've been really satisfied was Still Life. What do u think?

I point you here. That thread lists a great deal of other threads dealing with that issue.

SakSquash · 07-05-2005, 12:37 PM

::points:: Oh look, another thread about the state of adventure gaming.

samIamsad · 07-05-2005, 12:50 PM

You are dead. Do you want to:
Restart, Restore or QUIT?

Intrepid Homoludens · 07-05-2005, 01:04 PM

I do think the adventure game as a genre is dead, to those outside the community and fans. This is so in that it no longer has a particularly influential presence compared to, say, first person shooters, sports games, racing games, arcade style platformers, and RPGs. It hasn't been receiving consistent coverage by the media, especially the mainstream ones, in the past several years (when was the last time you saw an adventure game featured on the cover of PC Gamer or Computer Gaming World?). It's a niche market, with a tangible ceiling in budget that limits it in terms of trying to be more experimental according to features like technological advancements (graphics, A.I., etc.) and concepts - what games of other genres are taking advantage of because they can afford to.

There is also a terrible lack of intelligent and persistent marketing of adventure games to as wide a demographic as possible. What little marketing there may be is weak and, like many adventure games themselves, rarely inventive and eye catching. Not enough money is spent on brilliant marketing, most likely because there isn't enough money to spend.

However, the adventure game genre, to those who are aware, is thriving in its own small way. Ironically, a lot of the new games that could be classified as such - Myst V, Indigo Prophecy, Dreamfall, etc. - aren't necessarily following arbitrarily prescribed ideas inherent in this genre. They just happen to be thought of as adventure games, and we associate these games with how the genre is doing.

That's my

Martin Gantefoehr · 07-05-2005, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Genre is.

Wrong.

Terms like 'genre' won't die just because some people find out they describe something that is different from what they thought it would. 'Genre' is much more powerful and meaningful than its current representation in gaming. It is one of the most important terms in anything story-driven.

Fop · 07-05-2005, 01:25 PM

Not this again...

Martin Gantefoehr · 07-05-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Not this again...

*unsubscribes*

sethsez · 07-05-2005, 01:26 PM

Depends on whether you base a genre's status on quantity, quality, or relevance.

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Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	I do think the adventure game as a genre is dead, to those outside the community and fans. This is so in that it no longer has a particularly influential presence compared to, say, first person shooters, sports games, racing games, arcade style platformers, and RPGs. It hasn't been receiving consistent coverage by the media, especially the mainstream ones, in the past several years (when was the last time you saw an adventure game featured on the cover of PC Gamer or Computer Gaming World?). It's a niche market, with a tangible ceiling in budget that limits it in terms of trying to be more experimental according to features like technological advancements (graphics, A.I., etc.) and concepts - what games of other genres are taking advantage of because they can afford to. There is also a terrible lack of intelligent and persistent marketing of adventure games to as wide a demographic as possible. What little marketing there may be is weak and, like many adventure games themselves, rarely inventive and eye catching. Not enough money is spent on brilliant marketing, most likely because there isn't enough money to spend. However, the adventure game genre, to those who are aware, is thriving in its own small way. Ironically, a lot of the new games that could be classified as such - Myst V, Indigo Prophecy, Dreamfall, etc. - aren't necessarily following arbitrarily prescribed ideas inherent in this genre. They just happen to be thought of as adventure games, and we associate these games with how the genre is doing. That's my Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

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