paradise

BenjaminBunny · 06-09-2005, 10:16 PM

this looks great!!
I'm so glad you guys are giving this game in-depth coverage. Keep up the good work!

btw, I luuuvveed the syberia games, so I've been tracking Benoit Sokal for a while now....

squarejawhero · 06-09-2005, 10:55 PM

Yeah, same here. His footprints in the snow are very distinct. Could you do me a favour and save some room on that branch? I'm pretty sure there's a great view into his study from there, and the ol' rifle's got quite a good range.

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-09-2005, 10:58 PM

So does my frying pan, hon.

squaresie

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-09-2005, 11:12 PM

Sounds like an enchanting, almost fairytale like, story. One that I'd like to experience.

But let's get real here, I got bored with the CLINICAL LACK of interactivity in Syberia: look but don't touch. I liked everything else about it except that, and I felt like I was viewing the world under glass.

Let's hope Paradise is anything BUT that.

Looking forward to it.

Fairygdmther · 06-10-2005, 12:13 AM

Having loved Syberia I & II, and Amerzone, I am definitely looking forward to Paradise. I do wish it wasn't using the hackneyed old amnesia plot, but, oh, well... I'm sure the game will be worth it. Screenshots look good, as expected, from Benoit Sokal. I just had the thought that this is almost a combination of Amerzone and Syberia - traveling girl meets jungle with strange animals. Hmmm...

Anyway - good preview, Laura, can't wait!

Lynsie

FMZ · 06-10-2005, 05:10 AM

I just wish this game in 3rd person instead of 1st person....i hate 1st person adventure games, and have never played one so far.

Anybody knows this game is a 1st or 3rd person adventure game?

Hamham Chan · 06-10-2005, 06:25 AM

Have you guys read Benoit Sokal comics?
I´ve got some of them in my attic, maybe i should go and get them.

***Jackal*** · 06-10-2005, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMZ

I just wish this game in 3rd person instead of 1st person....i hate 1st person adventure games, and have never played one so far.

Anybody knows this game is a 1st or 3rd person adventure game?

Paradise is 3rd person.

I won't even ask how you know you hate 1st person games if you've never played one.

Welcome to AG, by the way!

Kolzig · 06-10-2005, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamham Chan

Have you guys read Benoit Sokal comics?
I´ve got some of them in my attic, maybe i should go and get them.

Oh I've read all of his Canardo comics except his latest album, which I happened to loan from the library just today.

Hmm, except the #13 album Le buveur en Col blanc seems to be missing, it has not been translated in to finnish for some reason.

FMZ · 06-10-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackal

Paradise is 3rd person.

I won't even ask how you know you hate 1st person games if you've never played one.

Welcome to AG, by the way!

Well I have but for like 10-20 minutes...7th Guest and Myst
Never liked the 1st person persprective

mszv · 06-12-2005, 07:47 PM

I adored Syberia 1 and 2, so I'm looking foward to Paradise.

Sometimes I wonder, though, if their heart is really in adventure games. I'll happily play any game they make, but I rather think that what they really want to do, in their heart of hearts, is animated movies. Never a sure thing, I know, success in one genre does not predict success in another genre - who went from being a success in games to a success in films! Still for all, sometimes I think they'd really just like to tell a great beautiful linear and evocative story without that messy gameplay. So, I'll be interested to read any new news about them (possibly) making a movie - new partner? I remember reading that they wanted to get into making movies.

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-12-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszv

Still for all, sometimes I think they'd really just like to tell a great beautiful linear and evocative story without that messy gameplay.

That pretty much sums them up.

LauraMac · 06-13-2005, 02:48 AM

In all fairness, I don't think you can "sum White Birds up" while they are still adding produuct into the equation.

It is true that story telling is a strength of their work, [which could favor their movie efforts] while highly interactive gameplay is an area that has been neglected. [either deliberately or not - I won't speculate]

But at E3, we were told and shown things that bode well for a full rich engaging game. Two playable characters, more densely populated game worlds, increased speaking characters, highly detailed environments -- all promise a deeper interaction within the game play. Of course, won't know for a fact til the game releases - if all that "promise" is realized. [applies to ANY game - Indigo, DreamFall or Paradise]

But, I am happy to wait and see.

Intrepid Homoludens · 06-13-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LauraMac

But at E3, we were told and shown things that bode well for a full rich engaging game. Two playable characters, more densely populated game worlds, increased speaking characters, highly detailed environments -- all promise a deeper interaction within the game play. Of course, won't know for a fact til the game releases - if all that "promise" is realized. [applies to ANY game - Indigo, DreamFall or Paradise]

But, I am happy to wait and see.

I hope so, I'd like more game in my game, LOL. I look forward to it.

After a brisk nap · 06-13-2005, 02:01 PM

I read the Canardo comics about ten years ago. I remember them as quite a bit more "earthy" (i.e. vulgar) than Sokal's current image. Very interesting stuff, though.

As an aside: Trep and SJH, now that your avatars are so similar, it's almost impossible to tell the two of you apart.

squarejawhero · 06-13-2005, 03:09 PM

Strangely, Trep's the straight one.

mszv · 06-13-2005, 06:02 PM

Oh, I'll happily play Paradise and any game that White Bird Productions does.

RLacey · 06-14-2005, 04:00 AM

I'm vaguely keeping an eye on this one. If they actually have some game this time then it could be worth looking at...

Kolorabi · 06-16-2005, 09:42 AM

Thanks for the well written and informative preview, it made me look forward to this game even more. It strikes me that there are lots of adventure games I look forward to right now - Paradise, Keepsake, Fahrenheit, Bone, Juniper Crescent, Vampyre Story, pretty much everything from Kheops,.... maybe these aren't such bad times for adventure games after all.

Kate Walker · 08-19-2005, 06:00 AM

adventure-treff.de has some new screenshots.
I think they are from chapter 2 of the game, the Molgrave Village.

http://www.adventure-treff.de/images...ots&galerie=79

06-09-2005, 10:55 PM	#2
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	Yeah, same here. His footprints in the snow are very distinct. Could you do me a favour and save some room on that branch? I'm pretty sure there's a great view into his study from there, and the ol' rifle's got quite a good range. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

06-09-2005, 10:58 PM	#3
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06-09-2005, 11:12 PM	#4
Intrepid Homoludens merely human Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 22,309	Sounds like an enchanting, almost fairytale like, story. One that I'd like to experience. But let's get real here, I got bored with the CLINICAL LACK of interactivity in Syberia: look but don't touch. I liked everything else about it except that, and I felt like I was viewing the world under glass. Let's hope Paradise is anything BUT that. Looking forward to it. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ platform: laptop, iPhone 3Gs \| gaming: x360, PS3, psp, iPhone, wii \| blog: a space alien \| book: the moral landscape: how science can determine human values by sam harris \| games: l.a.noire, portal 2, brink, dragon age 2, heavy rain \| sites: NPR, skeptoid, gaygamer \| music: ray lamontagne, adele, washed out, james blake \| twitter: a_space_alien

06-10-2005, 12:13 AM	#5
Fairygdmther Magic Wand Waver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 3,142	Having loved Syberia I & II, and Amerzone, I am definitely looking forward to Paradise. I do wish it wasn't using the hackneyed old amnesia plot, but, oh, well... I'm sure the game will be worth it. Screenshots look good, as expected, from Benoit Sokal. I just had the thought that this is almost a combination of Amerzone and Syberia - traveling girl meets jungle with strange animals. Hmmm... Anyway - good preview, Laura, can't wait! Lynsie Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Ralph Waldo Emerson

06-10-2005, 05:10 AM	#6
FMZ Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5	I just wish this game in 3rd person instead of 1st person....i hate 1st person adventure games, and have never played one so far. Anybody knows this game is a 1st or 3rd person adventure game? Share Share this post on Twitter

06-09-2005, 10:16 PM	#1
BenjaminBunny fire breathing Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New England Posts: 514	paradise this looks great!! I'm so glad you guys are giving this game in-depth coverage. Keep up the good work! btw, I luuuvveed the syberia games, so I've been tracking Benoit Sokal for a while now.... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ~Tranquility is beyond form, it cannot be grasped and held. It is beyond sound but perhaps within sound, yet it cannot be heard. It cannot be seen yet it lies in everything we see.~

06-10-2005, 06:25 AM	#7
Hamham Chan Fulci lives Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 981	Have you guys read Benoit Sokal comics? I´ve got some of them in my attic, maybe i should go and get them. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ - And you will face the sea of darkness and all therein that may be explored -

06-12-2005, 07:47 PM	#11
mszv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, US Posts: 261	I adored Syberia 1 and 2, so I'm looking foward to Paradise. Sometimes I wonder, though, if their heart is really in adventure games. I'll happily play any game they make, but I rather think that what they really want to do, in their heart of hearts, is animated movies. Never a sure thing, I know, success in one genre does not predict success in another genre - who went from being a success in games to a success in films! Still for all, sometimes I think they'd really just like to tell a great beautiful linear and evocative story without that messy gameplay. So, I'll be interested to read any new news about them (possibly) making a movie - new partner? I remember reading that they wanted to get into making movies. Share Share this post on Twitter

06-13-2005, 02:48 AM	#13
LauraMac Bearly Here Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 1,145	In all fairness, I don't think you can "sum White Birds up" while they are still adding produuct into the equation. It is true that story telling is a strength of their work, [which could favor their movie efforts] while highly interactive gameplay is an area that has been neglected. [either deliberately or not - I won't speculate] But at E3, we were told and shown things that bode well for a full rich engaging game. Two playable characters, more densely populated game worlds, increased speaking characters, highly detailed environments -- all promise a deeper interaction within the game play. Of course, won't know for a fact til the game releases - if all that "promise" is realized. [applies to ANY game - Indigo, DreamFall or Paradise] But, I am happy to wait and see. Share Share this post on Twitter

06-13-2005, 02:01 PM	#15
After a brisk nap Elegantly copy+pasted Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,773	I read the Canardo comics about ten years ago. I remember them as quite a bit more "earthy" (i.e. vulgar) than Sokal's current image. Very interesting stuff, though. As an aside: Trep and SJH, now that your avatars are so similar, it's almost impossible to tell the two of you apart. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Please excuse me. I've got to see a man about a dog.

06-13-2005, 03:09 PM	#16
squarejawhero Epinionated. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 5,841	Strangely, Trep's the straight one. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Starter of Thread Must Die.

06-13-2005, 06:02 PM	#17
mszv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, US Posts: 261	Oh, I'll happily play Paradise and any game that White Bird Productions does. Share Share this post on Twitter

06-14-2005, 04:00 AM	#18
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	I'm vaguely keeping an eye on this one. If they actually have some game this time then it could be worth looking at... Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

06-16-2005, 09:42 AM	#19
Kolorabi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 900	Thanks for the well written and informative preview, it made me look forward to this game even more. It strikes me that there are lots of adventure games I look forward to right now - Paradise, Keepsake, Fahrenheit, Bone, Juniper Crescent, Vampyre Story, pretty much everything from Kheops,.... maybe these aren't such bad times for adventure games after all. Share Share this post on Twitter

08-19-2005, 06:00 AM	#20
Kate Walker Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 39	adventure-treff.de has some new screenshots. I think they are from chapter 2 of the game, the Molgrave Village. http://www.adventure-treff.de/images...ots&galerie=79 Share Share this post on Twitter

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