How male or female is your brain?

burns flipper · 02-11-2005, 12:09 PM

http://growe.homeip.net/BaronCohen/MaleFemale.asp

Simon Baron-Cohen's recent book The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain proposes that "The female brain is predominantly hard-wired for empathy. The male brain is predominantly hard-wired for understanding and building systems."

I saw this on Richard & Judy a while ago. They had a test listing features of a 'female' brain, and features of a 'male' brain. Turns out 1 in 5 men have a 'female' brain. Aspects I can remember:

Female brain:
Jumps to conclusions
Cannot navigate easily using maps
Can read emotions purely from the eyes

Male brain:
Likes reading DIY magazines
Likes play-fighting
Understands 'systems'

One of the tests was to gauge people's emotions from their eyes. They showed a series of 4 photographs just of the eyes, and for each one offered 4 different emotions. Interestingly, as soon as the options appeared I shouted out the correct answer, and my wife got it wrong. I got 4/4, she got 0. See how well you do!

And Judy said "If I'm navigating in the car, I have to turn the map around so that we're always heading up" and Richard replied "That's right! You can't do it in your head like I can", which I identified with. I also hate play-fighting and never jump to conclusions (because the logic of the male part of my brain disallows it).

Read the review, do the tests and decide what you have!

Turns out I have aspects of a female brain, but can also do some male-brain things (such as navigating a map in my head, and understanding 'systems').

burns flipper · 02-11-2005, 12:12 PM

I got:

Empathy Quotient
Your score: 20
0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20)

Systemizing quotient
Your score: 62
51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range)

Reading the mind in the eyes
Your score: 26
A typical score is in the range 22-30.

Autism Spectrum quotient
Your score: 32
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)

There seems to be a message in all of this!

Wormsie · 02-11-2005, 12:36 PM

Too bad the website is down...

EDIT: Ah, it's back up!

Systemizing quotient:
Your score: 24
20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30)

Empathy quotient:
Your score: 20
0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20)

Autism spectrum quotient:
Your score: 32
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)

Reading the mind in the eyes:
Your score: 16
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.

pinkgothic · 02-11-2005, 12:55 PM

And me:

Empathy Quotient
Your score: 56
53 - 63 is above average

Systemizing quotient
Your score: 43
40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range)

Reading the mind in the eyes
Your score: 24
A typical score is in the range 22-30.
NOTE: I don't think this test makes much sense as I've had to lighten up some of the images manually to even see the eyes because of the way my monitor is. I can't anyone's going to tell me that has no impact on the result.

Autism Spectrum quotient
Your score: 11
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)

Wormsie · 02-11-2005, 01:04 PM

That eye thing was absolutely impossible. I thought most of them looked exactly the same. And regarding the rest, I don't know if my results were like that due to autism or just plain low self esteem... *shrugs*

Curt · 02-11-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burns flipper

Male brain:
Likes play-fighting

I refuse to do the test because I never believe the results anyway. But judging by the fact that I've just come here after playing a bit of Counter-Strike:S, I'd say I have a male brain. Becuase I liked it.

Erkki · 02-11-2005, 01:27 PM

I did the first two,
Systemising=40
Empathy=29

But it's probably not very accurate, I probably answered 1/3 of the questions wrong.

Erkki · 02-11-2005, 01:42 PM

Eyes=22 (I think I'm actually better at this, I just tried to go really fast again and almost all the ones I got wrong were my second choices). Also it doesn't help that they're so close to each other. It creates some visual illusions.

Zygomaticus · 02-11-2005, 02:47 PM

Systematizing = 25
Empathy = 50
Eyes = 24 (although, I wish I'd done better...I guess part of my ability to tell how a person feels stems from my ability to read the rest of the face, I guess)

Jazhara7 · 02-11-2005, 03:14 PM

Systemizing:

Your score: 57

51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range)

Empathy: 48

33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42)

Autism Spectrum: 13

11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)

Eyes: 24

A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.

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LauraMac · 02-11-2005, 06:19 PM

Systemizing: 30

I am surprised I didn't score lower as I rarely think of myself as very systematic

Empathy: 60

Autism Spectrum: 11

Eye to whatever thing: 32

Interesting test - though I never quite know what these things really indicate about people.

lumi · 02-11-2005, 06:44 PM

Systemizing: 17
Empathy: 39
Autism: 16
Eyes: 27

I'm a guy that seems to be a little closre to the female numbers.

beat!the!champ! · 02-11-2005, 07:34 PM

Systemizing quotient, 20
Empathy quotient, 32
Autism spectrum quotient, 16
Mind in the eyes, 27

It's funny essentially being asking if I'm empathetic in the empathy test.

I enjoy these online quizzes more than I should. There's a whole whackload here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/

including one which tests the fe/maleness of your brain. It shouldn't be hard to find.

Royal Fool · 02-11-2005, 09:18 PM

Systemizing Quotient
Your score: 45
40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range)

Empathy Quotient
Your score: 39
33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42)

Autism Spectrum
Your score: 11
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)

Mind in the Eyes
Your score: 31
If you scored over 30, you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions around their eyes.

-------------------------
Oh dear, it looks like I have autistic traits.

...not that I, personally, feel like I do. Some of those questions had double meanings. It seems I'm a pretty average joe, even if I don't feel like one and never fit in anywhere.

Crunchy in milk · 02-11-2005, 11:11 PM

I averaged out on all the tests apart from the eyes, I got 4 wrong but I think I would have done better at it if they where not such crappy images. You can't even see the dilation of the pupils in most of them which is a huge indicator of emotion, its more a reading of the eyebrows than the eyes. Some of my wrong answers say something about me I guess. I have trouble understanding the eyes of older people. I don't spend a lot of personal time face to face with the elderly and they have next to no presence at all in every day media (television and movies). Despite mistaking number 33's concerned look for guilt (I tend to expect men to employ phony concern to disguise guilt, hell I do) I find it easier to read men's eyes than women's (without the pupils) since I'm not practiced at giving men long eye contact (animal instinct) I can pick up more from just the eyebrows I guess.

burns flipper · 02-12-2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat!the!champ!

I enjoy these online quizzes more than I should. There's a whole whackload here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbo...rainquiz.shtml

emma · 02-12-2005, 01:05 AM

Systemizing quotient - 34
20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30)

Empathy quotient - 37
33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42)

Autism Spectrum quotient - 12
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)

Mind the eyes - 30
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.

Not sure how these tests helps me decide what to choose in the poll though, lol!

jaf · 02-12-2005, 01:12 AM

I'm a person with a person brain.

Jazhara7 · 02-12-2005, 01:24 AM

Where's the option to vote "Female with a Hermaphrodite Brain"?

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Wormsie · 02-12-2005, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burns flipper

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/interactives/personality/brain_sex/brainquiz.shtml

That test claimed that my brain is a mix of both...

View Poll Results: How male or female is your brain?
Female with a female brain	3	13.64%
Female with a male brain	3	13.64%
Male with a female brain	5	22.73%
Male with a male brain	11	50.00%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-2005, 12:09 PM	#1
burns flipper King of the Wild Frontier Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 76	How male or female is your brain? http://growe.homeip.net/BaronCohen/MaleFemale.asp Simon Baron-Cohen's recent book The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain proposes that "The female brain is predominantly hard-wired for empathy. The male brain is predominantly hard-wired for understanding and building systems." I saw this on Richard & Judy a while ago. They had a test listing features of a 'female' brain, and features of a 'male' brain. Turns out 1 in 5 men have a 'female' brain. Aspects I can remember: Female brain: Jumps to conclusions Cannot navigate easily using maps Can read emotions purely from the eyes Male brain: Likes reading DIY magazines Likes play-fighting Understands 'systems' One of the tests was to gauge people's emotions from their eyes. They showed a series of 4 photographs just of the eyes, and for each one offered 4 different emotions. Interestingly, as soon as the options appeared I shouted out the correct answer, and my wife got it wrong. I got 4/4, she got 0. See how well you do! And Judy said "If I'm navigating in the car, I have to turn the map around so that we're always heading up" and Richard replied "That's right! You can't do it in your head like I can", which I identified with. I also hate play-fighting and never jump to conclusions (because the logic of the male part of my brain disallows it). Read the review, do the tests and decide what you have! Turns out I have aspects of a female brain, but can also do some male-brain things (such as navigating a map in my head, and understanding 'systems'). Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Burns Flipper's Graphic Adventure games site

02-11-2005, 12:12 PM	#2
burns flipper King of the Wild Frontier Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 76	I got: Empathy Quotient Your score: 20 0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20) Systemizing quotient Your score: 62 51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range) Reading the mind in the eyes Your score: 26 A typical score is in the range 22-30. Autism Spectrum quotient Your score: 32 32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35) There seems to be a message in all of this! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Burns Flipper's Graphic Adventure games site

02-11-2005, 12:36 PM	#3
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	Too bad the website is down... EDIT: Ah, it's back up! Systemizing quotient: Your score: 24 20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30) Empathy quotient: Your score: 20 0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20) Autism spectrum quotient: Your score: 32 32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35) Reading the mind in the eyes: Your score: 16 A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30, you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor. Last edited by deadworm222; 02-11-2005 at 01:01 PM.

02-11-2005, 12:55 PM	#4
pinkgothic Feind der Anonymitaet! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 1,898	And me: Empathy Quotient Your score: 56 53 - 63 is above average Systemizing quotient Your score: 43 40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range) Reading the mind in the eyes Your score: 24 A typical score is in the range 22-30. NOTE: I don't think this test makes much sense as I've had to lighten up some of the images manually to even see the eyes because of the way my monitor is. I can't anyone's going to tell me that has no impact on the result. Autism Spectrum quotient Your score: 11 11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17) Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "Me pee stick bigger you pee stick." (credit to, but not attributed to, Jeysie) "Don't be careful, be immortal." Brat™, certified as by Trep Winner of the Second-Best-Dressed and Non-Specific awards in the Unbiased Impostor Awards™, amongst many others. Non-Conformist to Non-Conformism™ Internet Explodifier™ - the best weapon of mass destruction!!!11one Trademark Overuser™

02-11-2005, 01:04 PM	#5
Wormsie Doctor Watson Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 4,736	That eye thing was absolutely impossible. I thought most of them looked exactly the same. And regarding the rest, I don't know if my results were like that due to autism or just plain low self esteem... shrugs Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Don't worry, I'm a doctor.

02-11-2005, 01:27 PM	#7
Erkki Umbilicus Mundi Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stonia Posts: 1,266	I did the first two, Systemising=40 Empathy=29 But it's probably not very accurate, I probably answered 1/3 of the questions wrong. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________

02-11-2005, 01:42 PM	#8
Erkki Umbilicus Mundi Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stonia Posts: 1,266	Eyes=22 (I think I'm actually better at this, I just tried to go really fast again and almost all the ones I got wrong were my second choices). Also it doesn't help that they're so close to each other. It creates some visual illusions. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________

02-11-2005, 02:47 PM	#9
Zygomaticus Liver of Life Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,317	Systematizing = 25 Empathy = 50 Eyes = 24 (although, I wish I'd done better...I guess part of my ability to tell how a person feels stems from my ability to read the rest of the face, I guess) Share Share this post on Twitter

02-11-2005, 03:14 PM	#10
Jazhara7 Ale! And keep 'em coming! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beyond the Pattern of Reality...or Germany Posts: 8,527	Systemizing: Your score: 57 51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range) Empathy: 48 33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42) Autism Spectrum: 13 11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17) Eyes: 24 A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30, you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult. - Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ - "esc(x) cot(x) dx = -csc(x)!" Dennis added, and the wizard's robe caught on fire. "Gosh," Dennis said, "and some people say higher math isn't relevant." >>>Inventor of the Mail order-Assassin<<< And This...is a Black Hole - BYE!

02-11-2005, 06:19 PM	#11
LauraMac Bearly Here Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 1,145	Systemizing: 30 I am surprised I didn't score lower as I rarely think of myself as very systematic Empathy: 60 Autism Spectrum: 11 Eye to whatever thing: 32 Interesting test - though I never quite know what these things really indicate about people. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-11-2005, 06:44 PM	#12
lumi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 2,120	Systemizing: 17 Empathy: 39 Autism: 16 Eyes: 27 I'm a guy that seems to be a little closre to the female numbers. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-11-2005, 07:34 PM	#13
beat!the!champ! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 237	Systemizing quotient, 20 Empathy quotient, 32 Autism spectrum quotient, 16 Mind in the eyes, 27 It's funny essentially being asking if I'm empathetic in the empathy test. I enjoy these online quizzes more than I should. There's a whole whackload here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/ including one which tests the fe/maleness of your brain. It shouldn't be hard to find. Share Share this post on Twitter

02-11-2005, 09:18 PM	#14
Royal Fool Statement: Not a meatbag. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Iceland Posts: 813	Systemizing Quotient Your score: 45 40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range) Empathy Quotient Your score: 39 33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42) Autism Spectrum Your score: 11 11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17) Mind in the Eyes Your score: 31 If you scored over 30, you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions around their eyes. ------------------------- Oh dear, it looks like I have autistic traits. ...not that I, personally, feel like I do. Some of those questions had double meanings. It seems I'm a pretty average joe, even if I don't feel like one and never fit in anywhere. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ .::Royal Fool::. Last edited by Royal Fool; 02-11-2005 at 09:24 PM.

02-11-2005, 11:11 PM	#15
Crunchy in milk delusions of adequacy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,403	I averaged out on all the tests apart from the eyes, I got 4 wrong but I think I would have done better at it if they where not such crappy images. You can't even see the dilation of the pupils in most of them which is a huge indicator of emotion, its more a reading of the eyebrows than the eyes. Some of my wrong answers say something about me I guess. I have trouble understanding the eyes of older people. I don't spend a lot of personal time face to face with the elderly and they have next to no presence at all in every day media (television and movies). Despite mistaking number 33's concerned look for guilt (I tend to expect men to employ phony concern to disguise guilt, hell I do) I find it easier to read men's eyes than women's (without the pupils) since I'm not practiced at giving men long eye contact (animal instinct) I can pick up more from just the eyebrows I guess. Share Share this post on Twitter

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02-12-2005, 01:05 AM	#17
emma soffistical Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 460	Systemizing quotient - 34 20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30) Empathy quotient - 37 33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42) Autism Spectrum quotient - 12 11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17) Mind the eyes - 30 A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30, you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult. Not sure how these tests helps me decide what to choose in the poll though, lol! Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on a disc somewhere. My DVDs \| My Photos \| TorrentMind

02-12-2005, 01:12 AM	#18
jaf big, hairy and blue Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 349	I'm a person with a person brain. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ ¿?

02-12-2005, 01:24 AM	#19
Jazhara7 Ale! And keep 'em coming! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beyond the Pattern of Reality...or Germany Posts: 8,527	Where's the option to vote "Female with a Hermaphrodite Brain"? - Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ - "esc(x) cot(x) dx = -csc(x)!" Dennis added, and the wizard's robe caught on fire. "Gosh," Dennis said, "and some people say higher math isn't relevant." >>>Inventor of the Mail order-Assassin<<< And This...is a Black Hole - BYE!