Hopkins FBI: The Worst Adv game ever?

som123 · 10-22-2007, 08:22 PM

A few days back i stumbled on this article:
http://www.richardcobbett.co.uk/code...f_hopkins_fbi/

Genuine review or just some rant? What do you think?

Draco2.5 · 10-22-2007, 08:43 PM

That actually kinda makes me want to play the game.

tsa · 10-22-2007, 08:54 PM

I stopped playing that game because of all the blood and gore.

MikaelS · 10-22-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco2.5

That actually kinda makes me want to play the game.

Haha, same.

It's funny; sometimes when something just is that awful and meant to be serious, it kinda turns it around and becomes hilarious. Just like those very awful movies that are so bad they actually make you laugh.

Like this quote:

Now I really wanna play this game!

Thello · 10-22-2007, 11:01 PM

It's not a great game, but it's far from the worst ever. It has a certain cheesy quality. You could do a lot worse with any of the dozens of Myst clones out there.

Richard · 10-23-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by som123

Genuine review or just some rant? What do you think?

Oh, rant. Definitely rant. If it wasn't an... ah... 'interesting' game, it wouldn't have been worth taking a look at. The advantage of a blog is that you can play around with various ideas, try different styles, and goof off sometimes. And yes, it's hyperbole overload, but folks seemed to find it entertaining. Not all, but eh, can't please all the people all the time ;-)

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That actually kinda makes me want to play the game.

It's got a certain sick charm in that respect. Terrible game, but so bad, you do kinda want to see what manner of wackiness it throws at you next.

(And obviously, 'worst' is part of the hyperbole. I even name a few worse ones in the text. I'd rather play this one than, say, Spud, or those aforementioned Myst games. But for the most part, they're bad because they're boring, not because they're Mystery Science Theatre style Weapons Grade Badness)

Gabe · 10-23-2007, 12:31 AM

The Worst Adv game ever?no not even close.Outstanding adv.experince , B adv.more likely in,in old days 3d actions have dismember fx
guess thats how they inspired with animated violence gore sequences..

fajerkaos · 10-23-2007, 02:28 AM

Hey, I love this kinda stuff

(not the gore in itself, but things that are so bad, that it seems as it could be made from pure badness).
Gonna hunt this one down now, take that you random review guy!

Richard · 10-23-2007, 02:29 AM

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Hey, I love this kinda stuff (not the gore and nudity of course, but things that are so bad, that it seems as it could be made from pure badness).
Gonna hunt this one down now, take that you random review guy!

Please. Why do you think I picked it up ;-?

fajerkaos · 10-23-2007, 02:34 AM

You got a point.

som123 · 10-23-2007, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fajerkaos

Hey, I love this kinda stuff

(not the gore in itself, but things that are so bad, that it seems as it could be made from pure badness).
Gonna hunt this one down now, take that you random review guy!

I think the reviewer got confused between serious story and B-movie parody.
This game is obviously a B-movie parody (at least what i thought when i had played it in 2000

)

BTW, Randy Sluganski from justadventure.com seems to have liked this game
http://www.justadventure.com/reviews...BI_Review.shtm

Richard · 10-23-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by som123

I think the reviewer got confused between serious story and B-movie parody.

No. I just don't consider that to be a Get Out Of Jail Free card for being shit, any more than I'd give American McGee's Bad Game LA a free ride. You can get away with a lot if you're spinning a genre - I got a lot of guilty enjoyment out of Kingdom O'Magic, for instance - but parody/humour isn't a defense against suckage. Look at Scary/Date/Epic Movie.

As a pastiche - parody's too strong, at least for most of the unpleasant stuff outside of calling the villain Bernie Berckson - it suffers from the age-old problem: take all the worst bits of a genre and you're going to end up smelling of them. Without some form of commentary, or taking it beyond shoving naked dead women onto the screen and giggling "Hehe, boobies..." it's just more tiresome immaturity trying to pretend it's aimed at adults. The fact that it's primarily creepy necrophilia doesn't exactly help.

Ugh. It's just awful. It stuns me that it got positive reviews, although most of the ones I saw seemed to be stretching to be nice. Both Quandary and JA give it lots of props for simply being an adventure game, and the specifics... well...

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The puzzles in Hopkins FBI are actually a step above the usual fare we are accustomed to encountering in a point-and-click game. Whereas many adventure games would have you get your car keys off a table and then use them with your car, the creators of Hopkins went that extra step and required you to search under the sofa cushions to find where your keys have fallen out of your pants pocket.

Awesome. Now let's get the grenade out of the office desk!

Terramax · 10-23-2007, 05:15 AM

I'm gonna buy a copy of this game, take a photo of me playing it, and email it to that reviewer. Hell! I'll get all my friends and family holding their own copies around me.

It would be worth it to see what his response was.

Seriously, I recently watched Return of the Killer Tomatos and that's put me right in the mood for random s**t. Where can I get for 99p?

Richard · 10-23-2007, 05:20 AM

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It would be worth it to see what his response was.

A grin, followed by moving onto the next message in my inbox? If you say so. I wouldn't bother though, not now you've ruined the surprise. Spend the money on sweeties or something.

And Return of the Killer Tomatoes is a funny movie. Especially the Product Placement joke.

Nelza · 10-23-2007, 05:28 AM

I had a feeling it was you all along!

Richard · 10-23-2007, 05:44 AM

Well, there were clues for the more advanced detectives ;-)

Seriously, I think it's a terrible, terrible game. But the outright hate-spray of that feature is because the whole Agony Booth/Jabootu style treatment seemed like it would be entertaining at around 2AM, way back in March. That's about as deep as it gets, really. Some folks found it funny, others, well, not so much. It's reasonably often searched for though, so obviously Hopkins still has a bit of a cult following.

som123 · 10-23-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Seriously, I think it's a terrible, terrible game. But the outright hate-spray of that feature is because the whole Agony Booth/Jabootu style treatment seemed like it would be entertaining at around 2AM, way back in March. That's about as deep as it gets, really. Some folks found it funny, others, well, not so much. It's reasonably often searched for though, so obviously Hopkins still has a bit of a cult following.

Sure, but you gotta admit that you "enjoyed" it in some way

Remember that moment in the game,

Spoiler:
when Hopkins FBI dies and goes to heaven.....

I was only 14 and my dad had never heard me swear like this-
"WTF.....WTF....WTF is going on here?....WTF....Is this really happening?.....WTF?...."

Richard · 10-23-2007, 09:55 AM

Hey, I said it was a terrible game. I never said it wasn't interesting

GageBlackwood · 10-23-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Well, there were clues for the more advanced detectives ;-)

That got me laughing almost as much as the review did. Great website, by the way, it was the reason I went to bed at three in the morning last night.

Richard · 10-23-2007, 12:02 PM

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

10-22-2007, 08:22 PM	#1
som123 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5	Hopkins FBI: The Worst Adv game ever? A few days back i stumbled on this article: http://www.richardcobbett.co.uk/code...f_hopkins_fbi/ Genuine review or just some rant? What do you think? Share Share this post on Twitter

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Draco2.5 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 310	That actually kinda makes me want to play the game. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ As a young boy, when you get splashed by a mud puddle on the way to school, you wonder if you should go home and change, but be late for school, or go to school the way you are; dirty and soaking wet. Well, while he tried to decide, I drove by and splashed him again. - Jack Handey

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tsa Playing character Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 7,472	I stopped playing that game because of all the blood and gore. Share Share this post on Twitter

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Thello Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 172	It's not a great game, but it's far from the worst ever. It has a certain cheesy quality. You could do a lot worse with any of the dozens of Myst clones out there. Share Share this post on Twitter

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Gabe Schättenjager Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 815	The Worst Adv game ever?no not even close.Outstanding adv.experince , B adv.more likely in,in old days 3d actions have dismember fx guess thats how they inspired with animated violence gore sequences.. Share Share this post on Twitter

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fajerkaos Has a jaw of sweet teeth Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Insanity. Posts: 458	Hey, I love this kinda stuff (not the gore in itself, but things that are so bad, that it seems as it could be made from pure badness). Gonna hunt this one down now, take that you random review guy! Share Share this post on Twitter

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Terramax Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,595	I'm gonna buy a copy of this game, take a photo of me playing it, and email it to that reviewer. Hell! I'll get all my friends and family holding their own copies around me. It would be worth it to see what his response was. Seriously, I recently watched Return of the Killer Tomatos and that's put me right in the mood for random s**t. Where can I get for 99p? Share Share this post on Twitter

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Nelza Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 450	I had a feeling it was you all along! Share Share this post on Twitter

10-23-2007, 05:44 AM	#16
Richard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 322	Well, there were clues for the more advanced detectives ;-) Seriously, I think it's a terrible, terrible game. But the outright hate-spray of that feature is because the whole Agony Booth/Jabootu style treatment seemed like it would be entertaining at around 2AM, way back in March. That's about as deep as it gets, really. Some folks found it funny, others, well, not so much. It's reasonably often searched for though, so obviously Hopkins still has a bit of a cult following. Share Share this post on Twitter Last edited by Richard; 10-23-2007 at 06:28 AM.

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Richard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 322	Hey, I said it was a terrible game. I never said it wasn't interesting Share Share this post on Twitter

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