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Top Adventure Games - Let's Make Another List
This thread is inspired by Soraria's recent top-10 threads. While I personally find it difficult, if not impossible, to rank the games I've played, I also find the various statistics in these threads interesting.
Here's the thing with this thread: Rank all adventure games you've played, from best to worst. You may group several games together if you think they're equally good. If enough people answer this (there's no point to it if only one or two people posts), I'll put the results together using ranked pairs. I'm curious to see how the top ten created this way will compare to Sotaria's results, and if any other interesting statistics pop up along the way. |
I like the idea. This method has two obvious advantages over simply nominating your ten favourite games. For one, it gives a fair exposure to lesser known, but appreciated games. For two, it allows the people who played more games to make more educated votes (and yet equally valid as far as specific games are concerned).
However, the idea of ranking all games I've ever played scares me. :D I might do that, but don't be mad if I end up copying and pasting my top ten and lumping the rest in just a few categories like "excellent", "good", ..., "awful". |
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The main reason I asked for all the games you've played is to prevent the following: Let's say everybody posts their top ten only. One person puts a game in top that's not included on anyone else's list. That game would come out on top since nobody had said they liked another game better than it. The more data, the better results. I'll post my own list later. I have most of my games elsewhere, and I want to make sure I don't forget anyone. |
This topic sounds interesting, but it will be quite hard to dig in memory and write down all ags ive ever played. But ill certainly try :)
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Almost done with the list :)
Just checking net if i my list is complete... |
i dont think there's anyway i can pick out of my brain all the adventures i've played.. i'll only be able to remember the obvious ones.... i definetly think this is a great approach to doing a best game thread tho... good idea.
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A site that may help jog some memories: http://adventure-archiv.de has a pretty comprehensive list of adventure-games that have been published through the years. It also includes many Indie adventure-games. Some have only been published in German, but they're clearly marked (Sprache: D instead of Sprache: E)
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A top 50 was done at JA. It was very difficult to rank 50, never mind the 141 games I've played.
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In principle I like what you are trying to do, but the only way to REALLY do this right (which I have never been able to figure out how to do) is to have a polling system where you can vote A+ to F on every game you have ever played (but the games should be prelisted). It should possible to do this, but I doubt this site is set up for that and I don't know how to realistically do that in these forums. If you have any ideas I would love to help. People could just go check the game title and see what its average rating is.
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The point is not to have a simple average score for each game separately, though. Read the site Trumgottist linked to. Ranked pairs is a special algorithm of producing a list on which relative positions of games X and Y (ie. which is placed higher) are usually more influenced by people who played both X and Y than by the rest.
And I assume that Trumgottist have means to calculate the final rankings easily enough, or else he wouldn't offer to do it. :D |
Im thinking about making some script in php which could allow us all to "vote".
I havent read the site about those ranked pairs yet, so when i have some time, i will take a look and figure out some algorithm how to count the final score. Next good thing would be the possibility to enter more games even after you have voted if you forget some. And actually, there wouldnt be a final score. I would keep the site up, so when some1 come up with more games or some new ppl come here, it will change the score... |
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As AFGNCAAP points out, the idea was not to collect ratings for a large number of games, but more a variation on the "post your top games" threads. I thought of it since Sotaria was doing statistics on the most recent top-game thread. I found that interesting, but noted that simply adding scores is a blunt way of doing statistics. As an example, my personal top ten does not include any Space Quest games. Is that because I don't like those games? No, it's simply that I've never played them. I think it'd be interesting to see how the results of a ranked pair rating would compare. The large number of games thing sort of appeared as a requirement to do this sort of thing. It's pointless to apply the ranked pairs voting system to the top-ten thread (I'd have done that instead of starting a new thread if I thought that to be a good idea) - there's too little information in that thread to do it right. I did not intend it to be anything more substantial than any other similar forum thread. Completely useless, but maybe a bit interesting. If anyone feels inspired to start some new rating site, or register at MobyGames and start rating they should feel free to do so, but that's another thing. And for those of you that find it too hard to do: Group your list heavily. You could even do it as simply as splitting your list in two groups. "Games I like" and "Games I don't like". Or post the top ten you posted in the last thread and group the rest of the games together at the bottom. Those are completely valid approaches that will be handled appropriately when the results are put together. |
Well since I've avoided posting on just about every other "rank your favorite games" list, I suppose this is as good a place as any to just give in and get it over with (and to get the ball rolling on this thread already).
Here we go, motherfuckers! Every goddamn adventure game I've played and finished, from heavenly to hellish: Monkey Island 1 Day of the Tentacle Quest for Glory 1 Monkey Island 3 Grim Fandango Conquest of Camelot Beneath a Steel Sky The Dig King's Quest 6 Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes Quest for Glory 2 Monkey Island 2 Conquests of the Longbow Gabriel Knight: Sins Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis Sam and Max: Hit the Road Space Quest 3 Broken Sword 1 King's Quest 5 Loom Dagger of Amon Ra Space Quest 5 Rise of the Dragon Sanitarium Freddy Pharkas Quest for Glory 3 Blade Runner Heart of China Full Throttle Space Quest 1 Police Quest 2 Space Quest 4 Colonel's Bequest King's Quest 4 King's Quest 1 Star Trek: 25th Anniversary Space Quest 6 Les Manley: Search for the King Leisure Suit Larry 1 Adventures of Willy Beamish Leisure Suit Larry 2 Police Quest 1 Altered Destiny Toonstruck Space Quest 2 Police Quest 3 King's Quest 2 Leisure Suit Larry 3 King's Quest 3 Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade Monkey Island 4 Ween: The Prophecy Codename: Iceman Wayne’s World (dear god, why?) Les Manley 2: Lost in LA (yes, it’s worse than Wayne’s World) That's all I can think of for now. If I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat reminded of some long lost obscure game I played in the late 80s, I'll be sure to edit it into the list. For now though, this is pretty much it. |
Ok, I'll go secondly :):
These are the adventure games I've played from start to finish (I chose not to include the ones I may have played enough to be able to rate them. That rating would probably still change after finishing the game.): From good to bad: Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within Leisure Suit Larry 3: Passionate Patti in Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow Broken Sword 1: Shadow of the Templars Gabriel Knight 1: Sins of the Fathers The Longest Journey Sam & Max Hit the Road King's Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella Voyage Gold Rush! Zork Grand Inquisitor Torin's Passage Largo Winch: Empire Under Threat Leisure Suit Larry 7: Love for Sail Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror Police Quest 1: In Pursuit of the Death Angel Discworld 1 Laura Bow 1: The Colonel's Bequest Rama Leisure Suit Larry 6: Shape Up or Slip Out The Curse of Monkey Island Leisure Suit Larry 1: in the Land of the Lounge Lizards King's Quest VII: The Princeless Bride Shivers 1 King's Quest V: Absence Makes the Heart Go Yonder Starship Titanic Police Quest 2: The Vengeance Post Mortem The 7th Guest Zork Nemesis Shivers 2: Harvest of Souls Police Quest IV: Open Season The Black Mirror Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh Leisure Suit Larry 5: Passionate Patti Does a Little Undercover Work UFOs Phantasmagoria 1 Grim Fandango Syberia 1 The Moment of Silence CSI 1 Still Life Myst If I were asked to give scores to these games, none of them would go below a 5/10, because games I don't think have anything (or very little) going for them, I simply don't finish. So even the bottom five are not all bad. They'll never be favourites though. |
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Broken Sword 1 Broken Sword 2 Little Big Adventure Little Big Adventure 2 Outcast The Dig Future Wars Broken Sword 4 Omicron: The Nomad Soul The Longest Journey Sam & Max Dark Earth Dreamweb Gabriel Knight Cruise for the Corpse Gabriel Knight 2 Gabriel Knight 3 Pandora Directive Syberia Azrael's Tears Woodruff Loom Simon The Sorcerer 2 Simon The Sorcerer Journeyman Project Blade Runner Journeyman Project 2 Discworld Noir Freddy Pharkas: Frontier Pharmacist Journeyman Project 3 Kings Quest 6 Time Gate: Knights Chase Goblins 3 Zork Nemesis Still Life Monkey Island Monkey Island 2 Normality Akagawa Jirou no Yuurei Ressha Phantasmagoria Al-Qadim Beneath a Steel Sky Monkey Island 3 Innocent Until Caught Guilty Legend of Kyrandia Legend of Kyrandia 2 The Last Express The Feeble Files Legend of Kyrandia 3 Tajemstvi Osliho Ostrova Big Red Adventure Runaway Zork Grand Inquisitor Broken Sword 3 Day of The Tentacle Flight of The Amazon Queen Goblins Goblins 2 Syberia 2 Shannara Hell: The Cyberpunk Thriller Space Quest 1 Inca Inca 2 Prisoner of Ice Companions of Xanth Kings Quest 5 Death Gate Space Quest 2 Space Quest 3 Ecstatica Ecstatica 2 Bureau 13 Cosmology of Kyoto Gene Machine Police Quest 1 Police Quest 2 Police Quest 3 Discworld I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream Litil Divil Oscar Darkseed Darkseed 2 Geisha Bloodnet Lost In Time Labrinth of Time Madness of Roland The Orion Conspiracy Bad Mojo Bud Tucker in Double Trouble Chronomaster Congo Lost Eden Atlantis Faust Harvester The Fear Lighthouse 3 Skulls of Toltecs Crime City Blue Ice Black Dahlia Teen Agent Zak MacCracken Monkey Island 4 Grim Fandango The 7th Guest Fuck Quest |
Okay. This list includes only those I have completed or that were so bad I will NEVER finish them. There are many others that I have yet to finish, but may well do someday. It is interesting that in compiling this list, it actually differs from my TOP 10 list, illustrating how hard it is to rank all these games. Take this, therefore, as a loose guide with a +/- 5 slots on average.
Tex Murphy 3 - Under A Killing Moon Tex Murphy 4 - Pandora Directive Monkey Island 3 - Curse of Monkey Island Day of the Tentacle Runaway Monkey Island 1 - Secret of Monkey Island 3 Skulls of the Toltecs - Fenimore Fillmore 1 Monkey Island 2 - LeChuck's Revenge Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis Space Quest 5 - The Next Mutation Broken Sword 1 - Circle of Blood (aka The Templars) The Gene Machine Tex Murphy 1 - Mean Streets Space Quest 2 - Vohaul's Revenge Space Quest 6 - The Spinal Frontier Tex Murphy 5 - Overseer Garbiel Knight 1 - Sins of the Father Beneath A Steel Sky Inherit the Earth - Quest for the Orb Legend of Kyrandia Legend of Kyrandia 2 - The Hand of Fate Gabriel Knight 2 - The Beast Within Quest for Glory 4 - Shadows of Darkness Black Dahlia Zac MacCraken and the Alien Mindbenders Broken Sword 2 - The Smoking Mirror Flight of the Amazon Queen Nightlong Space Quest 1 - The Sarien Encounter Amazon - Guardians of Eden Quest for Glory 5 - Dragon Fire Broken Sword 3 - The Sleeping Dragon Monkey Island 4 - Escape from Monkey Island Torin's Passage King's Quest 5 - Absence Makes the Heart Go Yonder! Maniac Mansion Full Throttle Knightsquire Gold Rush Quest for Glory 1 - So You Want to be a Hero Space Quest 4 - Roger Wilco and the Time Ripper King's Quest 7 - The Princeless Bride Rise of the Dragon Alien Virus Out of Order Santitarium Return of the Phantom Sam and Max Hit the Road King's Quest 3 - To Heir Is Human Star Trek - 25th Anniversary Star Trek - Judgment Rites Space Quest 3 - The Pirates of Pestulon Zero Critical Prisoner of Ice King's Quest 2 - Romancing the Throne Earthrise Loom King's Quest 4 - The Perils of Rosella Police Quest 2 - The Vengeance Tex Murphy 2 - Martian Memorandum King's Quest 6 - Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow Future Wars Quest for Glory 2 - Trial by Fire Police Quest 1 - In Pursuit of the Death Angel Conquest of Longbow Nibiru Syberia Codename : Iceman Heart of China The Dig Legend of Kyranida 3 - Malcomb's Revenge I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream Quest for Glory 3 - Wages of War Conquest of Camelot Fable Adventures of Willy Beamish Bargon Attack Freddy Pharkas Fronteir Pharmachologist Countdown Manhunter Manhunter 2 Pleurburgh Altered Destiny Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Darkseed 2 Woodruff and Schnibble Les Manley - Search for the King King's Quest 1 - Quest for the Crown Grim Fandango The Orion Conspiracy |
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