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Raoul_Duke 06-26-2004 04:57 PM

Same problem with both Monkey Island 3 and Grim Fandango
 
When I'm playing either of these two games the sound goes crazy all the time, like looping or something, so they'll repeat the same word constantly, or the same sound. When this happens I have to save, quit and start again before it goes away. It's really really annoying and it's all the time. Anyone have any idea what I can do?

guybrush_guy 06-26-2004 05:14 PM

try updating your sound card drivers, if that does'nt work then i suggest you use Scummvm for playing monkey island and VDM sound on grim fandago (i'm not sure if you can use VDM on non dos games thoe. i'd still give it a shot.)


http://www.ece.mcgill.ca/~vromas/vdmsound/

VoodooFX 06-26-2004 05:28 PM

VDMSound is for DOS based games only, as far as i know.
But like guybrush_guy said, update soundcard drivers, try running the games in Windows95 compatibility mode, if you're using Windows XP.

If that doesn't help, then you can use ScummVM for Monkey island, as for Grim, i don't know any other solution than those mentioned above.

fov 06-26-2004 05:29 PM

Welcome to the forum Raoul!

I moved this post to the tech forum. I hope you get the answers you need.

:D emily

Raoul_Duke 06-26-2004 05:35 PM

ok I'll try the windows95 compatibility thing, but I already tried the scummvm, but the loops continued, although maybe not as often.

VoodooFX 06-26-2004 05:41 PM

Well that's strange, you should really check for driver updates for your soundcard, it this doesn't help, check the state of the CDs (scratches). Try to copy the monkey island discs to hard drive and run the game from there, ScummVM supports this, if the looping continues, then you're out of luck, wait for better drivers.

Just out of curiousity, what soundcard do you have?

Raoul_Duke 06-26-2004 05:48 PM

I updated my drivers 2 weeks ago, I don't think that's the problem. I don't have sound problems in any other games I play. I have copied it all onto my harddrive. Stupid games :( it got better after around 1 hour in MI, but I can't stand having to go through it again with GF. And Discworld won't work either. So 3 out of 3 games I've wanted to play today are ****ed.

Raoul_Duke 06-26-2004 05:53 PM

oh, didnt see that last question. SB audigy something. Don't question my hardware, matey :D

VoodooFX 06-26-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoul_Duke
oh, didnt see that last question. SB audigy something. Don't question my hardware, matey :D

I don't. :) I also have SB Audigy and i can't say there weren't any problems with it during the last two years, for instance, i could get the sound to work in Blair Witch Vol1 under XP, it worked fine in Win 98.

If by Discworld, you're reffering to Discworld Noir, you can check this site, maybe you'll find some solution, but i wouldn't get my hopes up.

Royal Fool 06-26-2004 06:28 PM

I was just installing Grim Fandango myself and experienced some strange sound glitch. I enabled 3D Accceleration and the sound went poof, all of it. No music, sounds or voice. And when I engage in conversation I have to manually skip each line as the game refuses to make the conversation go on (As if it's missing the voice or something)... very strange. I have yet to try the compatability options though.

Royal Fool 06-26-2004 06:37 PM

Okay, the sound worked perfectly when I restarted the game with the 3D Acceleration enabled by default... but I soon experienced the same bug that Raoul_Duke is talking about. The sound starts looping constantly just at random points and the only way is to exit the game and start it again. Starting a conversation, leaving the room or using the options won't fix it.

As reported by dxdiag:

Description: SoundMAX Digital Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_80B01043&REV_A0
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: smwdm.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.3533 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 12/5/2002 16:39:56, 534976 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Analog Devices
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): Yes
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

It's an onboard soundcard chip, it's served me well so far.

guybrush_guy 06-26-2004 06:43 PM

i did some thinking, it may be a direct X sound problem. i had a similar problem a few years ago with riven. i don't remember exactly how to fix it but try changing your Midi settings. to the default Microsoft synthesizer.

Royal Fool 06-26-2004 07:05 PM

Hmm, thanks for the tip. I did notice some other strange bugs while playing - this seems to get worser and worser each time. :crazy:

If I loaded the saved game from when the sound disappeared, the game is loaded with no sound. It seems as if the save file has stored that as well. Strange.

Also, it seems that just by pressing F1 I can trigger the sound to disappear. Manny had his 'O' face expression while saying 'Whatever you say, jefe." Kinda disturbing.

*sigh*

Vision 06-26-2004 10:33 PM

Hi,
The only thing that comes to my mind is to try turning off hardware acceleration for your soundcard. I have no idea if that'll work with either grim or cmi but it seems to work with a lot of games and soundcards. If you don't know how to do it, go to control panel -> sounds and audio devices -> advanced speaker settings -> performance and turn the hardware acceleration slider all the way to the left. Hope it helps.

Raoul_Duke 06-27-2004 02:40 AM

Nope, hardware acceleration was off when I started to play, so that won't do the trick. Royal fool, I started off by having no sound at all either, except for the cut-scenes.

Sky Warrior Bob 06-27-2004 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoul_Duke
Nope, hardware acceleration was off when I started to play, so that won't do the trick. Royal fool, I started off by having no sound at all either, except for the cut-scenes.

Well, have you tried the opposite and put it all the way to full acceleration? I had a similar problem with Broken Sword 3's speech when I tried to play it with anything less.

And since you're having similar problems with ScummVM, that might be the case as well.

Sky Warrior Bob

Raoul_Duke 06-27-2004 06:23 AM

full acceleration was the first thing I tried when I had no sound at all in GF, but I just play with the compatibility modes, and it's sorta fixed. But full acc has no effect on the looping :/

Royal Fool 06-27-2004 07:09 AM

Win 95 compatability seems to fix the speech but the videos go crazy, they're now 2-3x slower and the sound is horribly choppy. This goes for all videos, like when Glottis is first introduced in the game and he crawls out of his shed the video is super-slow, same when Manny enters the parking lot and Domino's car drives by.

EDIT #1: Same goes for Win 98/ME compatability, except for some reason the game has incredibly long loading times in this mode.

EDIT #2: I tried it in Win2K comp. mode and finally the loading times were non-existant and the cutscenes and videos play flawlessly. However, as soon as I load a savegame the sound disappears. AAARGH!

VoodooFX 06-27-2004 09:20 AM

Ok, you guys made me do something i couldn't get myself into doing for long time now. I've started to replay Grim Fandango again and i must say it runs without a single sound problem on my WinXP. There were few random crashes to desktop so far and there is a bug with a forklift in year two, but official patch fixed it. Other than that, no problems at all.

My system:
-----------------
Athlon XP 1700+
512 mb RAM
SB Audigy
Geforce 3

Sky Warrior Bob 06-27-2004 09:40 AM

Have you tried seeing if the Grim patch helps any?

http://support.lucasarts.com/patches/grim.htm

Royal Fool 06-27-2004 11:27 AM

Finally! I fixed it by going into my BIOS settings and disabling Hyperthreading. Seems that it caused some problems for the game, but it's all smooth now, with 3D Acceleration and all. Don't even need to run it in compatability mode. Many thanks go to Ollie for posting the solution to my problem in this thread: Grim Fandango Compatibility?!?!

Thanks for the tip, but I had already installed the patch prior to playing the game.

Sullen23 10-24-2004 04:30 PM

Grim Fandango sound problems Win2000
 
Hi guys, I've also troubles running grim fandango on my computer using Windows 2000. when Manny is talking the sound often loops and it kind of freeze the game. Also when I press F1 to save my game, there is no more sound at all when i go back to the game. it really sucks. I have to quit the game and reload it all.
here's what I tried: i downloaded and installed the patch on lucasarts' site but it doesn't help. I installed the VDMsound2.1.0 program, but it still doesn't help much.
my sound card is a sound blaster live! value. and my video card is a ATI all in wonder 9800 series.

I read stuff about disable hyperthreading options, and win95 compatibility mode stuff, but since I use win 2000 I don't think these things can help... yet I didn't find anything in my BIOS about hyper threading so this means it isn't enabled, eh! so anyways i really wish i could play Grim again but the sound keeps on looping and freezing everything....
Can anyone help ? thanks a lot...

Sonia

Jake 10-24-2004 10:54 PM

Sullen Sonia, have you tried messing with your directsound/direct3d accelleration settings? :)

MDMaster 10-25-2004 02:35 AM

Erm... How about... hmm... A Virtual Machine???? :D

Sullen23 10-25-2004 03:10 PM

Heya Jake, nope I haven't tried but I saw my acceleration card is set to "full" acceleration and i can choose between openGL or direct3d. what do you suggest me to do? thanks
Sonia

Jake 10-25-2004 03:40 PM

I don't know the answer to that, but you can try playing around and seeing if it works with different settings? :)

MDMaster 10-26-2004 08:51 AM

The only important thing here is sound acceleration, not graphics I think.

You can find that slider in the Control Panel/Sound/Audio/Hardware, I'm translating from italian so bear with me :D

Wormsie 10-26-2004 09:22 AM

I bought BS3, and my Sound Blaster 128 skipped all the music so that it looped from the beginning to about one second into the file and then back... Then I switched to my PHASE 22 card and it fixed the problem.


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