dtp entertainment goes bust
 

Another adventure game publisher goes under. :frown::frown:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2012/04/...ing-bankruptcy

dtp Entertainment has filed for bankrupy.

They published quite a few adventure games her in Europe.

Black Mirror 1-3
So Blonde
Memento Mori 1-2
Grey Matter
15 days
Ghost Pirates
Mata Hari

Bollocks :frown::frown:

Too bad. Most of their games were good

Oh man 15 days:frusty::frusty: the worst adventure game i've ever played (def in the worst top five). I enjoyed the mirror series and grey matter.

Rest In Peace.

Damn, didn't see this one coming. Bollocks indeed.

Always sad to see more adventure game publishers go under. :frown:

Kinda proves all too rashly that the genre is still struggling...

In this case it's not so much the adventure genre per se but the consequence of several business decisions of a publisher hugley spreading it's portfolio (from PC and console games to Mobile Games, Free2Play titles, Socialgames, Blu-Ray & DVDs movies). Financing the production of games like the multiplattform The Cursed Crusade or the current Tad Williams's Otherland MMO project have been very expensive. Maybe too expensive for a publisher whos biggest titles' sales in the last years have been average at best.

damn shame.....no matter how average their games were they were publishers and they provided us with AGs.and let's not forget that the average part is subjective.others probably consider them great and i'm not talking about sales.

Sad news. Daedalic is struggling too. Apparently, Germany is not enough of a market to make a profit and they're not doing very well internationally, at least not without access to Steam. Pretty soon it will boil down to popular indies who don't need a publisher, like Amanita, and crowdfunding projects.

Sad to hear. I liked many of the titles they published.

Damn, I think my copies of So Blonde and Mata Hari were published by them. :frown:

isnt it surreal? This year the genre is making more headlines and getting more attention than it has in maybe a decade+... But meanwhile these companies are struggling to stay afloat. Pretty sad.

Unbelivable. When are we going to get some good news concerning our lovely genre? It's just been all downhill for the last two years.

MultiMediaOnline. There's no stronger cursing word in the universe.

Daedalic has problems, Fien? Thats a small surprise. They have so many projects on hand all of the time so i was wondering how come they can afford that.

About dtp - maybe a bit sad, but i dont feel much of a loss. They lacked the focus and the vision. They've made questionable decissions and... ok, i have couple of more complaints but maybe too subjective.
Im sad about games what had to be published by dtp and might now be stuck in limbo, though. Regarding adventures - Memento Mori 2, Lost Chronicles of Zerzura, Haunted. I dont know what was the deal with game's dev and dtp (is dtp owner who partners other publishers like Lace Mamba, or did tm belongs to dev and they can find a new publ) but point of worry. Especially in case of Zerzura, which is dtps own.
Other thing im worried about is the future digital availability of their back catalogue. Like House of Tales' Overclocked and Moment of Silence. Lighthouse went bankrupt and Gamersgate dont sell their products anymore (luckily they left users games they already had obtain, Overclocked in my case. Im not sure how Adveture shop call still sell Lighthouse stuff though). Moment of Silence publishers are all bankrupt although i hope the Nordic Games, The Adventure Company label new holder would fix the availability question soon.

Most?
Black Mirror 1-3 good
So Blonde terrible
Memento Mori 1-2 average
Grey Matter good
15 days average
Ghost Pirates pretty awful
Mata Hari not good

Still, I applaud them for taking on more experimental titles like 15 days. Wasn't a great game but I liked its freshness.

Can someone who speaks German explain this better than Google Translate did? I can't tell if they're saying they're going to sell off their licenses, or keep them. :crazy:

Have they announced bankruptcy as in "we're going out of business"? Or bankruptcy as in "we're filing for court protection so we don't have to go out of business"?

They seem to be confident they can work something out and continue their business.

That's sad news as well. Hopefully they'll be able to finish "The Dark Eye" in time. I really wanna play that game! By the by why don't they have access to Steam? I thought anyone could have access to Steam. Pray tell

They're struggling, but certainly not dead. See this thread/post.

http://www.adventuregamers.com/forum...899#post600899

huh? it's no masterpiece and the release was too rushed, but it's not bad at all. i've played a dozen adventures that sucked way more; westerner 2, mata hari, belief & betrayal, julia: innocent eyes, 3 cards to midnight, forever worlds, lost horizon, cypher ...

moment of silence good
overclocked good
lost chronicles of zerzura good (but no english version released yet, i think?)

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I'm sorry to see that dtp Entertainment have filed for bankruptcy but also encouraged to see that they may still publish some games.

I've liked everthing they've produced even 15 Days which would have been amongst favourites for me if it hadn't been for the Cougar Runtime errors & the lack of general support for it which I find inexcusable!

I find most of those titles clearly above average adventures, some actually quite excellent. A few I haven't played yet but will try them out when I have the time. I really hope we will get the English Memento Mori 2 release.

i imagine they'll find another publisher......also their last game Alternativa was in Steam so I imagine even if they don't find another publisher for hard copies they'll probably go Steam.

Thank you! That makes a lot more sense. :D

I hope they get their games on Steam. Why are European companies so relucatant to get on steam?

I haven't played a single game made by DTP, Deck 13 etc. Only Pendulo, because they have all their games on steam.

Because Steam doesn't let them.

why is that?do you know anything more about this?out of curiosity

See this thread/post.

http://www.adventuregamers.com/forum...899#post600899

bad url...can you repost it?

It's the same link I posted on the previous page.

http://www.adventuregamers.com/forum...899#post600899

not knowing how Steam works,this seems quite weird to me.Why do they even need to scrutinize that much what gets on steam and what doesn't?do they lose from taking in a game that doesn't sell that much?i mean it's not like they play the part of investor for a game before it gets made or gamble with their chances on how many of the hard copies will be sold and how many will be left as losses?

can someone explain?

Developers/publishers (whoever owns the rights to a publish particular game) submit the game to Steam, and Steam decides whether or not to put it on the service. When they reject a game, their policy is to *not* give the reasons for it, so it's all a bit of a mystery. Good press coverage and awards can get their attention, but not always. They're pretty selective about what they'll take on the service.

I don't know anything about dtp's experiences with Steam specifically, but if they have tried to get their games up there and Steam has rejected them, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

yeah but why the selection??do they lose money from putting a game on steam which they think wouldn't sell?i could see how it would be a problem if it was a small company and there were little resources so they would have to be selective of what they provide.but i don't think they have a problem in that area and it seems they are doing rather well...is it a prestige thing??

I didn't know Steam was so selective. I don't like that.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Agreed 100%.
Well, it always a subjective thing. For me: Grey Matter is excellent, Black Mirror 2&3 are very good, Memento Mori 1 is good ( Memeneto Mori 2 didn't yet released on english so I can't give my final word).
I loved Microids, White Birds productions, City interactive...they all gone. Now Dtp Entertainment goes as well. Sad. The last one of my favorite studios that is still alive is Deep Silver.

I don't get it either, because some of the games are available on steam through other publishers. And all of Pendulo's games are there. Pendulo has a great relationship with steam, they are usually featured on the front page during all the big sales.

You are mixing up developers and publishers a bit.
White Birds productions was development studio.
Microids, City interactive, DTP were both. City is unfortunately (it mostly produces crap action games) alive and kicking. I haven't heard that their adventure department would have been closed. i guess their new focus is NDS.
DTP had good studios within, House of Tales and Cranberry, which were both killed. Most of adventures published by DTP werent made by them though.
Deep Silver is just a publisher (brand of Koch Media). I'm not sure that if u liked games like Lost Horizon, Secret Files and Perry Rhodan, Deep Silver should be the one who get praise.

Check out devs like Daedalic, KING Art, Deck13, Animation Arts...

i think it was already mentioned in the forums here, that daedalics titles got rejected many times. crimson cow seem to have similar problems: "steam regularly rejects our titles"