[Karmillo]

Heres a Discussion we just had In the AG irc that had us going round in Circles

Jeysie suggested there should be a thread made of it so here it is! Enjoy

<Karmillo> *Gasp* Database error?
<Dale> oh dear
<Dale> I blame Jack's new Hype-o-meter
<Dale> The Sam&Max and PW goodness has made it explode
<Dale> there we go
<Dale> silly site
<Karmillo> Pfft PW deservs #1!
<Karmillo> and whys uru live there? isnt it just a rerelease?
<Dale> It's more marking the comeback than anything
<Dale> since it will now getting new content and stuf
<Dale> f
* Jeysie makes a whoopy-doo sign.
<Dale> it's nowhere on my personal hype-o-meter
<Dale> btw, what does a whoppy-doo sign look like?
<Dale> er
<Dale> whoopy
<Karmillo> erm its a kinda rodeo truck horn type thing
<Jeysie> You point your index finger, hold it up in the air, and sort of wave your finger in a circle slowly.
<Jeysie> Whoopdie-doo sign, I should have said.
<Karmillo> Not necisseraly, you could have been inventing your own one
<Jeysie> Maybe, but whoopdie-doo is what I meant.
<Dale> another day, another new thing I find out
<Dale> doesn't beat LAMP though
* Jeysie points an entirely different finger at Dale.
<Jeysie> Anyhoo.
* Dale gives Jeysie a rather obscure hand gesture!
* Jeysie misinterprets the sign.
<Jeysie> That reminds me of one of the players in a Space Quest RP. He was playing a Sarien, while the rest of us were playing more typical races, and he kept trying to give us overly complicated battle hand signals which we turned into a gag of constantly misinterpreting them, which he then picked up and went along with.
<Jeysie> I miss that gag...
<Dale> I miss my hot water
<Jeysie> Tomorrow?
<Dale> hopefully
<Jeysie> Speaking of hot water, I have a mountain of dishes to wash soon. Gah.
<Dale> I have a mountain of dishes to wash
<Dale> and a kettle that knows I'm going to abuse it
<Jeysie> Is kettle abuse legal?
<Dale> it can't tell anybody!
<Jeysie> BTW, what sort of kettle are you referring to? In the US, "kettle" usually means "tea kettle", but since you don't drink tea, I'm assuming it's a language mismatch.
<Dale> kettles boil water
<Dale> what does a tea kettle do?
<Jeysie> Boil water.
<Dale> i see
* Huzmondo has joined #AdventureGamers
<Huzmondo> Yar babes.
<Dale> crazy americans
<Jeysie> I get it, though. It's just that usually it's a bit more specialized in terminology here. You might boil water for eggs in a saucepan, or use a double boiler, or boil water for spaghetti in a pasta pot... or boil water for tea in a tea kettle.
<Jeysie> Heya, Huz.
<Dale> so what happens if you boil water and use it for both tea and coffee at the same time?
<Huzmondo> Jeyso!
<Dale> does it become a tea'n'coffee kettle?
<Jeysie> Dale: Well, you'd never boil water for coffee, is the thing. You'd either use a coffee maker, or you'd heat the water in a mug.
<Huzmondo> Crazy stuff
<Karmillo> Wait I thought teah was made in a Tea Pot not a kettle!
<Dale> *pop*
<Jeysie> Dale: And even if you did boil water for coffee, you wouldn't use a kettle.
<Huzmondo> Jeysie is mental
<Karmillo> ...yeah you would
<Dale> *pop!!*
<Jeysie> Huz: Hey, I didn't invent American English. Don't pin this on me.
<Karmillo> you see, theres a tea pot, then theres a kettle
<Karmillo> no teak kettle or coffe kettle or whatever, kettles just boil water for general use
<Karmillo> like you can use a keetle to boile water to put in a pot to make pasta!
<Karmillo> also a kettle
<Jeysie> Karmillo: Here in the US... the tea kettle is what you boil the water in, and the teapot is what you put the finished tea in.
<Karmillo> yeah, you dont boile water in the teapot
<Jeysie> The word "kettle" just is never used to refer to any other reason for boiling water... at least, not here in Massachusetts, anyway.
<Huzmondo> This conversation is confusing. I'm just going to disregard it from now on.
<Huzmondo> "Pft!"
<Dale> lol
<Karmillo> but...it was you that said that the kettle was for tea!!!
<Dale> and only for tea
<Jeysie> Karmillo: It is.
<Karmillo> and who heats water up in a cup for coffe? how do you actualy do that? stick it in the oven?
<Huzmondo> What is the general-purpose water-boiling device called, then?
<Jeysie> Karmillo: There's this amazing device called a "microwave". I had always presumed they existed in the UK...
<Dale> ick
<Dale> microwaved water is horrible
<Karmillo> oh so coffe didnt exist before the microwave?
<Karmillo> *Coffee
<Jeysie> Karmillo: It did... and for all I know, back then people over here did in fact use the word "kettle" to refer to heating water for coffee as well.
<Jeysie> But nowadays they don't.
<Dale> craaaaazy
<Huzmondo> It is craaaaazy.
<Huzmondo> And I don't get it :~
<Jeysie> Huz: There is no general purpose term for a vessel in which one heats water. You just use the descriptive term for the actual vessel you're heating water in.
<Huzmondo> Describe this image in a single word! http://tom.carlson.org/tea/kettle.jpg
<Jeysie> Huz: It's a kettle...?
<Huzmondo> Yes, but... when the actual vessel is a kettle...?!
<Huzmondo> But... :~
<Huzmondo> Confuse.
* Jeysie sighs.
<Jeysie> My point is... *that* is a tea kettle, right?
<Huzmondo> Well, it's a kettle.
* Dale grins at Huz.
<Jeysie> ¬¬
<Huzmondo> I get the feeling you've just had the exact same conversation with Dale.
<Jeysie> OK, maybe we need a different approach to this.
<Jeysie> My point is, over here, if someone heated water in a device that Huz's picture showed, they'd almost certainly be making tea.
<Huzmondo> Oh, right. I just boil water for any purpose in the kettle. As do most sensible people who aren't American!!!!
<Karmillo> what about when your going to make pasta or something? dont you boil water in the kettle to save time?
<Dale> I know I do
<Jeysie> Karm: No, we boil water in the pasta pot, then put the pasta in the pot to save time.
<Huzmondo> I thought everyone did until I had this conversation. That's why it's BLOWING my MIND.
<Huzmondo>
<Dale> *pop*
<Karmillo> but thats just the normal way! that doesnt save time!
<Jeysie> Karmillo: Hence, you're boiling water in the pasta pot, not in a kettle.
<Karmillo> OHO! what about pot noodle?
<Jeysie> So, let me get this straight... putting pasta in a pot, then taking the time to boil water in an entirely different vessel, then pour it into the pasta pot, then have to wash twice as many dishes afterwards SAVES TIME?
<Jeysie> And you Brits are having trouble understanding Americans?
<Jeysie> To borrow Dale's line: *pop*
<Huzmondo> Wash twice as many DISHES?
<Karmillo> what do you mean wash twice as many dishes?
<Huzmondo> The kettle isn't a dish!
<Karmillo> exactly!
<Jeysie> Huz: So, a bowl isn't a dish?
<Dale> you'll get the electrics wet
<Karmillo> the only place that needs to ever wash a kettle is england cause of the limestone!
<Dale> and it'll all go bzzzt
<Huzmondo> Who said anything about a bowl?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!
<Jeysie> An electric kettle? OK, now *I'm* confused.
<Karmillo> So jeysie do you normaly eat out of the pot?
<Jeysie> Karmillo: No, surprisingly enough, we put the food on plates.

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