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Portable console for all PC games - PGS

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Hello, dear forum users. Soon we are planning to announce the PGS – a portable gaming console with Windows onboard (also comes with Android in Dual boot mode), which will be capable to run all games for PC, including those of AAA class of the current generation.

Currently we are analyzing and testing a prototype of the device and want to be sure that our project is as best as possible, before continuing to its manufacturing and realization stages. To understand that, we are asking for your help, tips, ideas and suggestions.

More information about PGS:

– TECHNICAL PARAMETERS –

CPU - Intel® Atom™ x7-Z8750 Quad-Core 2.4GHZ

DISPLAY - QHD IPS 2560x1440 (5.7*) (HD IPS 1280x720 (5.5*) for PGS Lite)

GPU - Intel® HD Graphics 600 MHz 16 cores

RAM - 8GB LPDDR3 1600 (4GB LPDDR3 1600 for PGS Lite)

OS - Windows® 10 (64-Bit), Android 6.0

STORAGE - 128GB SSD (64GB SSD for PGS Lite)

COMMUNICATION - 802.11a/b/g/n/ac + Bluetooth® 4.0 + 3G/LTE (without 3G/LTE for PGS Lite)

BATTERY - Li-Po 6120mAh battery (Li-Po 4080mAh battery for PGS Lite)

ADDITIONAL - USB 3.0 Host, HDMI 2.0 Host, 3.5mm combo, Built-in 5.0 speakers (2.0 for PGS Lite), Built-in cam and webcam (8.0MP/2.0MP) (5.0MP/1.3MP for PGS Lite), Second HD IPS display (4*), Telescopic analog sticks (basic analog sticks for PGS Lite).

SIZE - 164.1 x 84 x 1.8 mm (160.0 x 81 x 1.4 mm for PGS Lite)

WEIGHT – 320 g. (245 g. for PGS Lite)

– CHIPSET AND PERFORMANCE –

This device is based on a system with Cherry Trail chipset from Intel and Atom x7-Z8750 quad-core processor as the heart of it, as well as built-in HD Graphics video card of the current generation. Even though the performance level of such system is not as high as for the most advanced classic desktop solutions, it still can run the vast majority of modern games in HD-resolution and minimal graphics level. We didn’t want to use processors from Core M line intentionally, because even though the have higher price and power consumption, they are not significantly more powerful than x7. Preliminary tests of our prototypes gave us the following results:

Batman: Arkham City | medium-level graphics, HD-resolution, 27-32 FPS.

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance | medium-level graphics, HD-resolution, 30-35 FPS.

Dark Souls 2 | medium-level graphics, HD-resolution, 32-37 FPS.

Mirrors Edge | minimum-level graphics, HD-resolution, 26-31 FPS.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim | minimum-level graphics, HD-resolution, 25-30 FPS.

DmC: Devil May Cry | minimum-level graphics, HD-resolution, 24-29 FPS.

Fallout 3 | medium-level graphics, HD-resolution, 31-36 FPS.

Fallout 4 | minimum-level graphics, SUB HD-resolution, 20-25 FPS.

GTA V | minimum-level graphics, SUB HD-resolution, ultra low patch, 21-26 FPS.

Witcher 3: Wild Hunt | minimum-level graphics, SUB HD-resolution, ultra low patch. 20-25 FPS.

Are you interested in FPS rate for any other game? Please, let us know and we will test it and publish results.

– OPERATING SYSTEM –

The main operating system of PGS is Windows 10 (x64). Keeping in mind that our device is using the PC-compatible architecture, you are free to install on PGS not only games, but also any type of software, which was created and developed for PC. The level of performance allows users to run even such demanding programs as Z-Brush, 3D Max, After Effects and many other. It’s obvious that you can also install Steam to download and play games from your library. In other words, you are getting not only the functionality of a portable console, but also a mini-laptop, which can be connected to a display, wireless manipulators in order to use it as a basic replacement for your classic desktop PC.

The secondary operating system is Android. Keeping in mind that the device is equipped with a LTE module, you are able to use this device as a high-performance smartphone, call, write SMS and do other things any time when it’s necessary.

– RAM AND MEMORY –

The console has 8GB of LPDDR3 RAM onboard, which uses 2-channel mode. Such volume of RAM can’t be considered as low even for a desktop, thus, it’s not going to affect the performance level of our product. Talking about permanent storage space, we can say that the console is equipped with a SSD-disk of 128GB. A MicroSD card slot allows users to get up to 256GB of free memory.

– COOLING SYSTEM –

This device is equipped with a passive cooling system (a copper radiator, which transmits heat to the case of the device), which allows to avoid processor overheating, as well as one very annoying thing, which is called CPU Throttling. Keeping in mind almost miserable TDP of the chipset, our device will never reach uncomfortable temperatures.

– MAIN DISPLAY –

The main display of the console has QHD-resolution (HD for PGS Lite). Why not FHD? The thing is that HD-resolution is an optimal one for games to play with such diagonal. Only QHD allows showing HD-stream without any distortion, drawing 4 pixels instead of 1 physical. The display is using IPS technology, which provides high brightness and contrast, impeccable color accuracy, short response time and wide viewing angles. All these features are supported with an average level of power consumption and low price of the matrix.

– ADDITIONAL DISPLAY –

We are really proud with the additional (lower) display of our console. It supports HD-resolution and also uses IPS technology. This display can serve as the second monitor (basic Windows functionality), a touchpad and a virtual keyboard. When used as the second display, it can show virtually everything. It can be an image, web-browser, media player and many other applications.

     
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– COMPOSITION AND MATERIALS –

The main materials of PGS are ultra durable plastic and aluminum. Metal is used for all the elements, which require metal, while plastic - for all the elements, which require plastic. A simple and elegant approach.

– AUDIO –

PGS is equipped with a 5-channel sound system. Even though the device is pretty small, you will easily feel 3D effect in games, which support it. High quality speakers will provide you with crystal-clear and expressive sound, which can fill even an average room or a premise

– CONTROLLING ELEMENTS –

In order to be called a gaming console, especially on Windows, our device needs a full range of physical controlling elements. PGS has all necessary elements, including even analog sticks, triggers and other keys, which are necessary for all the games, which support gamepads. You don’t have to spend your precious time, setting necessary keys manually, because all input devices of PGS are using DXINPUT emulation mode.

In order to play games, which don’t support gamepads (old games, or RTS games), you can always reassign key actions, making them typical for any PC-keyboard. Analog sticks can also emulate a computer mouse movements and actions. Don’t forget that you can use the additional display as a touchpad.

– POSSIBLE PRICE –

We are lucky, because Microsoft graciously gives free Windows 10 licenses for all devices with the diagonal less than 10 inches. Furthermore, very lavish Intel company currently actively subsidizes its Intel Atom processors. All these factors together allow us to choose a price of around 250$ (210$ for PGS Lite).

– POSSIBLE UPGRADES –

Dear forum users, we also want to discuss with you possible upgrades and additions to our console:

Key illumination - this upgrade will not seriously affect the price and power consumption, but will allow users to see keys in the dark.

Color illumination of the device border (similar to Ambilight) – this upgrade will not seriously affect the price and power consumption, but will make it more interesting and attractive for users.

Changing Atom X7 with Core M – this upgrade will seriously affect the price and power consumption, but will increase the performance level by 15-30%.

Changeable accumulator battery - this upgrade will slightly reduce capacity of the accumulator battery.

XL-version of the device in the model range – for those, who want 7 inches.

A pico projector in the higher version - this upgrade will seriously affect the price of the device.

Changing permanent storage with more fast one (500 Mbit/s instead of 150 Mbit/s) - this upgrade will seriously affect the price of the device.

Factory GPU acceleration - this upgrade will increase the performance level by 10-30%, but will also increase its power consumption.

Usage of Amoled matrix instead of IPS – this upgrade will affect the price of the device, but will also increase brightness level of the display.

Additional eINK display in PRO version of the console. It doesn’t consume battery when its image is static. Keeping in mind that such display is sensor, it can be used to show keyboard (or any other app or image), which will not affect the power consumption level. This upgrade will seriously affect the price of the device.



– OUR CONTACTS AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION –
Project website - pgslab.com
Project blog - blog.pgslab.com
Email – .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Facebook - groups/1015105911884976
Instagram – @pgs.lab
Twitter – @PGS_lab

     
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Out of respect for the forum, I propose to all questions and suggestions to discuss right here.

     

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Sounds nice. Would definitely want to see it in first person (or at least extensive videos of it) before purchasing.
One thing that jumps out to me: if its running current gen titles at kind of a low level, where will it be in 2 years.. How possible will it be for the user to upgrade themselves? Even still, i think that kind of performance at that size at that price point would still be attractive to users if everything else works smoothly.

     
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We are planing to use special patch for PC games to get 30 FPS.
“How possible will it be for the user to upgrade themselves?”
We are sure that users can afford new upgrade version with new Intel chip for the same money.

     
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Wait i made a post in general news thread, you are official guy, neogaf says the stuff is fake.
If its real then please double down on indie titles like Hyperlightdrifter, Ori and AGs like Thimbleweedpark etc.

3d AAA can be hit or miss but Indie portable sounds awesome,since steam has huge library.

Please test,New Homeworld, Ori and Hyperlight etc.
Also horror games like outlast2 and Routine in future could do wonders, concentrate on indies is my advice.

     

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Also , if the utilities of second screen are minimal get rid of it and focus the power on single screen.
Get them analogs tested by hardcore users.
Make the browsing glitch free and smooth, fast loadups etc.
Optimization to the max.

     

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How are you dealing with hardware ergonomics, heatup issues, those vents placement,quality of material/plastic/metal?

     

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Hi! Thanks for attention.
Homeworld - 30+fps/hd
Hyperlight - 30+fps/hd
Ori - strange slowdowns on Atom chips in current version, unplayable

“Heatup issues” - current prototypes works without any heatup problems (like throttling and others)
Materials - Anodized aluminum and plastic (same as in Xiaomi Mi4C\4I)

     
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PGSLab - 17 April 2016 06:04 PM

Hi! Thanks for attention.
Homeworld - 30+fps/hd
Hyperlight - 30+fps/hd
Ori - strange slowdowns on Atom chips in current version, unplayable

“Heatup issues” - current prototypes works without any heatup problems (like throttling and others)
Materials - Anodized aluminum and plastic (same as in Xiaomi Mi4C\4I)

Any option to see indie games in large sizes.
If characters are small like Enterthegungeon and Drifter, things can get too tiny.
Thanks for answering.

     

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Hello, dear forum users. We want to thank you once again for your help, because you inspire us to make our project better. Only because of you, the release version of the device will include such features as:
Changeable battery
Key backlight
A programmable part of the lower display to use as keys or macroses
A virtual keyboard for the lower display, which supports full-screen games
Vibration
Special version of device in black color
Today, we have two pieces of news for you. One is good, while another is bad.
As well as many other distinctive features, which were simply impossible without your tips.
Besides that, we want to tell you two pieces of news. Unfortunately, one of them is bad. The good news in that we have finally reached agreement with investors and signed a contract. Thanks to that, the basic price of PGS will start from 230$ as we planned before. But there’s a bad news. One asshole shared our old and discarded video for Kickstarter and this video was reposted and published by the vast majority of journalists and media, which wrote about our release.  As the result, our investors were able to find this video Frown They decided that it can be a great idea to evaluate customers demand for device (as well for the first period of promotion) and insisted that the project has to be presented on Kickstarter.
We deeply apologize for any inconvenience those, who were waiting the device in retail. With respect to Kickstarter, we are happy to receive any support and help, but if you have any doubts in quality of the final product, we recommend you to wait until first reviews appear and official sales launched. As we planned before, official sales will start in December, immediately after the shipment of devices, which were pre-ordered by crowdfunding investors.
P.S. In the nearest future we will receive more complex prototypes of the device. We will make our best to publish a video review with several games testing.

     
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What a freak of tech.Why the hell i want to play downgraded to bone games on my system?

     

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Hello!
We are very happy to meet all our fans in 2017. All of you will be rewarded for your trust in our great project!
PGS Lab is going to open several new official public pages in social networks where they are still not present.
Get ready for exciting and groundbreaking news in the next six months!
In conclusion, we’d like to say that our company will do everything to make communication between us and our followers and fans as clear and transparent as possible.
Keep track of the news!

     
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PGSLab - 03 April 2016 12:28 PM

Hello, dear forum users. Soon we are planning to announce the PGS – a portable gaming console with Windows onboard (also comes with Android in Dual boot mode), which will be capable to run all games for PC

Hi. Will it be able to run Zork? I don’t see a way to type on the device.

Also, I have quite a few games on CD-ROM I am not even able to run on my PC. Will the device run these?

     

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Oscar - 28 February 2017 11:34 PM
PGSLab - 03 April 2016 12:28 PM

Hello, dear forum users. Soon we are planning to announce the PGS – a portable gaming console with Windows onboard (also comes with Android in Dual boot mode), which will be capable to run all games for PC

Hi. Will it be able to run Zork? I don’t see a way to type on the device.

Also, I have quite a few games on CD-ROM I am not even able to run on my PC. Will the device run these?

Hi, Oscar. Our device can run only digital copies of video games. But if you want to run Zork (like many other CD-games too), you can use ScummVM (https://www.scummvm.org) to emulate old games. PGS is also a Windows device and able to support all Windows apps.

Tips for Zork - https://www.thezorklibrary.com/installguides/index.html (using ScummVM)
List of ScummVM compatibility - https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/

PS. Can you name the games stored on your CDs?

Thanks. Smile

     
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