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For me the Tomb Raider games that felt closest to the Uncharted games are Legends and Underwold. I found them similar in that they presented lush vibrang environments that were enjoyable to explore. The newer Tomb Raider games are a bit too dark for me in terms of visuals.

     
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Rise of the Tombraider, Legends and Underworld are my favorite Tombraider games. I played them several times. The new ones are great, but are very different from the classic Tombraider games.

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Okay So last night I beat Tomb Raider definitive edition on ps4.
And I got a 93%  I almost found everything in the game!

So first I want to talk about why I like this game and not the originals as much.

And then I want to touch on why I prefer this to uncharted.

So The eidos/Core design era had messy control scheme, but we all already know that.  I will recommend though that I think the tank controls work much better on the PC ports than on PS1.  I dislike it because the way you find hidden stuff is total BS.  Often there is no real indication that something is hidden, or even that you can climb up on a ledge.  Because the polygonal texture for the place hiding the secret is basically identical to a normal wall texture, of course you don’t know anything is there.  Often when you do find a secret, I have no clue what it does.  I think you can see it in the menu, and in Lara’s Croft manor.  But I was a kid.  I had no context for the treasures she was finding.  Think about indiana jones where it’s often explained WHY a treasure is valuable, or WHY bad guys want it.
And putting a design or texture to indicate a hidden secret might be nearby was well done in games like Zelda, or even in similar games like RUNE.
The puzzles in classic TR were passable, except the ones that just asked you to wrestle with the BS controls like pressing a switch and diving under a door at the last second.

In the new ones most of the puzzles are environmental, so you set stuff on fire, push, pull etc.  And really that’s it.  The elements are simple, but how you use them together is thought provoking.

So after TombRaider started to die as they struggled with the ps2 era, Uncharted arrives on the scene, and even though I’ve already complained a bit about it, at least they breathed new life into this 3rd person action adventure genre. Story was solid, characters were solid, climbing and exploring was passable.  A few puzzles here and there, challenging but not difficult.  My god the combat is awful.  The mechanics of it are fine enough, but one kind of human need 8 bullets to kill him?!  I’m glad they included aim assist, but the combat gets arguably worse with each entry.
In uncharted, you do find treasures which is cool, but they are just kind of there.

I beat uncharted 2 last night as well, and Uncharted 2 starts incredibly strong with the media res, but quickly devolves to a passable cover based shooter.

When Tombraider comes back under crystal dynamics/square enix, they fixed the combat of uncharted, and my favorite things about this new tomb raider are:

Lara Croft is an interesting character again!  She has a fully fleshed out personality, and she’s not just some prissy british archaeologist girl. I mean she still kind of is that, but she feels more real because of her journal diaries, and her speculating about the treasures she finds.  When you find a relic or journal, not only do you get a description, but also she comments about it which both serves to inform the player of the importance of these things, as well as flesh out Lara’s archaeology genius.

And lastly that while finding the GPS caches is lame, I really enjoyed finding the relics and journals so I can get insight to the characters and some explanation of the treasures.


Now I have to buy the next two Tomb Raiders!

     
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I’m a big fan of Tomb Raider, I have played them all except for Angel of Darkness, which I started and I’m yet to finish it. I’m very fond of the old Tomb Raider not only for nostalgic reasons, but there was something about them that made them special for many fans, like the feeling of isolation and the focus on puzzles and exploration. Heck even finding hidden places and treasures like you mentioned was not only enjoyable but even necessary, as it was where you would find health packs and ammo. The new trilogy (and starting with Legend and Underworld, which I also enjoyed) are good and fun but steered too much into action.

I also prefer them over Uncharted, I feel like overall the gameplay, the tombs and even collectibles are way more meaningful and fun that the more linear and action packed structure of Uncharted. I recently played the 1st Uncharted as well and while enjoyable the shooting just got tedious after a while (not to mention the bullet sponge enemies)

It’s interesting to see your take on the character Celebreon, and while I agree with you that I liked her character in the 1st of the reboot trilogy, by the end of Shadow it just felt incoherent, there wasn’t much development and it was like a totally missed opportunity. I think many fans, myself included, ended up missing that prissy personality of the originals.

But you should definitely play the other two. Shadow of the Tomb Raider especially tones down the action for more exploration and has a lot of side tombs if you add the DLC ones, but it has a disappointing story imo.

     

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Just finished the Bioshock Collection on Switch—all three games and DLCs—9/10

     
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I assume by Tombraider you played Shadows of the Tombraider right? I am waiting on a price drop, Tombraider games don’t hold their value very well. When it hits 19.95 I’ll bite. It sounds like a great game and I loved the last one.


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No! the one I most recently beat was just called “Tomb Raider Definitive Edition”

I’m definitely on the look out for the sequels, RISE, and SHADOW, but I need to get them on consoles because my PC can barely run a word processor.

     
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Celebreon - 12 July 2020 08:57 PM

No! the one I most recently beat was just called “Tomb Raider Definitive Edition”

I’m definitely on the look out for the sequels, RISE, and SHADOW, but I need to get them on consoles because my PC can barely run a word processor.

Did you grab Rise on PS4? It was free with PSPlus this month. I got it and started replaying it and boy what a joy. I may sound like a fanboy but to me this is leagues above Uncharted. I was actually hesitant to start it because I have other games to play, including the Uncharted trilogy that I got when they gave it out for free and I haven’t play them in a while, but this just trumps it.

Uncharted may be better written and have better characterization, but everything from the Tombs that are a joy to explore and solve, the documents that give more depth to the world and gives context to the actions taking place, the treasures that not only have interesting descriptions from Lara showing her expertise but also fit within the context of the world and tell little stories. Heck even the action I find more exciting, with the use of the bow and stealth take downs. The treasures in Uncharted are just random stuff to pick up and it doesn’t give me any motivation to go out of my way to find them.

I used to criticize the focus on action of the survivor trilogy but the long stretches of time exploring finding Tombs and crypts that gives it that old school feeling of discovery and isolation almost makes it up for it. Uncharted for me feels just like a fun shooter with the occasional adventure passage but so linear and way more disposable. It’s a shame that they were better received and probably sold more. Sorry for the rant Yum

     
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Rise of the Tombraider is one of my favorite Tombraider games. I have played it several times and return for more.

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I finished Infamous last night (looking forward to the sequel that I already have, but I didn’t like the start of second sons)

And today I finished Uncharted 3

Both are good games that were impressive at the time.

I think Uncharted 3 might be slightly improved upon 2, but mostly has the same flaws and strengths too.

Not a lot to say about them really ^_^

     

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Mikekelly - 03 August 2020 06:05 PM

Rise of the Tombraider is one of my favorite Tombraider games. I have played it several times and return for more.

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Is Rise the 2nd or 3rd game of the reboot?

What I’d really love is a more or less historically accurate action tombraiding game. Something like Riddle of the Sphinx but with the jumping and reflex challenges of the classic Tomb Raiders. The later games got kind of ridiculous when we were supposed to believe a Mayan temple had these massive grinding wheels somehow powered by a magic crystal.

 

     
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It’s the 2nd in the reboot series.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) is the 3rd one in that Trilogy.

Unfortunatly that has been the last Tomb Raider for now as the developer is making the Marvel Avengers game.

     

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One really nice thing about Rise was it included a VR mode where you got to explore the Manor and solve puzzles. I loved it and played it quite a few times. A nice little mini adventure.

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I just finished The Last of Us part 2 and wow what an experience. Just like I predicted I definitely fall into the category of people that love the game. I’m not sure yet if it’s a 10/10 or a masterpiece like a lot of reviewers were saying and I don’t think is as good as the 1st, but for me is definitely up there.

I for one liked and enjoyed the story and I have a deep appreciation for what they were trying to do, and this coming from someone that is not much into revenge tales. Sure there might be some issues and mishaps here and there as well as pacing issues, but overall I loved the experience. I felt things I don’t think I’ve felt before in a game. Also loved the gameplay, definitely a step up form the original. And didn’t have a problem at all with switching characters. I was a little annoyed at first when we start playing as Abby from Day 1, but I grew to like her and her arc (which kind of mirrors Joel’s form the the 1st game) and even ended liking her more than Ellie at the end.

One thing I’m so confused about is why people were freaking out so much with the leaks. I thankfully managed to avoid most spoilers, except for one point, but I’m so curious to know what was it in them that made people flip out. All the negativity and hate that happened after the leaks had me worried but I gave Naughty Dog the benefit of the doubt and for me they delivered. If I had known previously and without any context that Joel was going to be brutally murdered, that we were going to play as the killer, or that Ellie would become kind of the villain, I would have been super curious and excited to see how and why. It might have been a Game of Thrones kind of thing going on and people were seriously furious if their favorite character got murdered or Ellie didn’t turned up to be the character they wanted? Did they forget what he did on the 1st game? Or just because they played as him and grew attached to him think he’s a hero and deserved better? I really don’t understand gamers sometimes, but anyway…

     

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