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I’ll post some overall thoughts on the game when we get nearer to the end of the CP, but here are a few thoughts on the end sequence.

- That final puzzle was unnecessary and frankly not fun. Surely they could have come up with something clever that tied up together the various puzzles and themes from the 3 eras.

- The guy who plays Gage really seems to equate acting with making faces and having crazy eyes. Did he go to acting class with Dean Erickson?

- (dramatic confrontation unfolding) Blah, blah, blah… Who cares?

- (end of the dramatic confrontation) Well, that was anticlimactic.

- (epilogue) ... And they devote the epilogue to wrapping up JP2. Or possibly retconning it. That makes total sense.
(I guess maybe that scene would work as a conclusion to the series if I had played the other games. For those who have: does it work?)

- (credits) James Hazelwood: you suck. It pleases me that you never had an acting career.

- (credits) Wait? The guard in Shangri-La was named Dob-Dob and nobody told me?!? No wonder Genghis Khan picked on him.

Kurufinwe - 09 February 2014 02:01 PM

- That final puzzle was unnecessary and frankly not fun. Surely they could have come up with something clever that tied up together the various puzzles and themes from the 3 eras.

- (epilogue) ... And they devote the epilogue to wrapping up JP2. Or possibly retconning it. That makes total sense.
(I guess maybe that scene would work as a conclusion to the series if I had played the other games. For those who have: does it work?)

Finishing the last puzzle took me longer than I thought it would, but since I wasn’t dying over and over while figuring it out, I wasn’t too bothered

As for the epilogue, yes, they were tying up the loose ends, but I definitely felt that they essentially rewrote Sinclair & Agent 3 into being good guys - which felt like a retcon, even if it was always intended. I liked the post that said Agent 3 framed Gage because he wouldn’t date her - and that would have made even more sense of JP3’s ending. “Thanks for testifying on my behalf.” She does seem a little sweet on Gage, crazy eyes and all. There’s this whole feel of - “Hey now that we agree that the Cyrollans shouldn’t get the legacy, don’t feel bad about those guilt trips, death traps, & the frame-ups you defeated in the last 3 games. We’re all friends now…” Its a little hard to believe that Sinclair would go to any lengths to reassure Gage that there were no hard feelings given how he acted on his deathbed and what happened between them in JP1. Maybe his other immortal Templar friends felt they should be extra nice to Gage, given what Saros/Sinclair pulled on the guy the Sosiqui eventually chose to save the Legacy.

Diego, thanks for leading the community playthrough. I’ve enjoyed it very much! Can we play a Tex Murphy game next?

I finished El Dorado. Raced through it, basically. I didn’t spend any time trying to piece the story of the murals and the shaman together so I appreciate the work you have presented in the thread.

I remember being stuck at how to ride the balloon for a while, just like several of you, the first time I played the game. This time, Arthur dropped a very obvious hint due to his chatty mode. I don’t think he is supposed to say any “light bulb comments” automatically even when chatty, so either that was a bug or a very spoilery thought bubble comment.

rtrooney - 09 February 2014 07:20 PM

I, for one, didn’t find the FMV acting as “over the top” as many did. It was no better or worse than just about all of the FMV games of its era. Actually, I was MUCH better than some games of that era.

I agree to a certain extent. Most of the NPCs you speak to are fairly uncomplicated and, I suppose, easy to portray (fairly) well. It’s just a shame that the main characters, like the agents and - ugh - the commissioner, are so bad.

Kurufinwe - 09 February 2014 02:01 PM

- That final puzzle was unnecessary and frankly not fun. Surely they could have come up with something clever that tied up together the various puzzles and themes from the 3 eras.

- (dramatic confrontation unfolding) Blah, blah, blah… Who cares?

- (end of the dramatic confrontation) Well, that was anticlimactic.

- (epilogue) ... And they devote the epilogue to wrapping up JP2. Or possibly retconning it. That makes total sense.
(I guess maybe that scene would work as a conclusion to the series if I had played the other games. For those who have: does it work?)

I may have more to say about this when I’ve finished this playthrough (I don’t remember the details) but I felt disappointed by the ending. The last puzzle is indeed tedious and kills any sense of urgency. Both Pegasus Prime and Buried in Time have awesome ending sequences that engage the player and first and foremost don’t completely reverse the previously established storyline. Cue diego saying “But this is a time travel game, it makes sense…”

Kurufinwe - 09 February 2014 02:01 PM

- The guy who plays Gage really seems to equate acting with making faces and having crazy eyes. Did he go to acting class with Dean Erickson?

Lol, spot on!

Kurufinwe - 09 February 2014 02:01 PM

- (credits) James Hazelwood: you suck. It pleases me that you never had an acting career.

You keep picking on the ferryman. I don’t see what’s so terrible about him in light of so many other poor performances? The IMDB page for the game was hilarious to browse through, though!

Kurufinwe - 09 February 2014 02:01 PM

- (credits) Wait? The guard in Shangri-La was named Dob-Dob and nobody told me?!? No wonder Genghis Khan picked on him.

Haha, but I think Dob-Dob is the guard’s title, as in “a Dob-Dob guard”. The lama calls you something else if you talk to him while wearing the guard’s image, if I’m not mistaken. I’ll check when I go back to the game.

diego - 09 February 2014 12:35 PM

Haha! Come on, everyone, let us see your beautiful “head art”. Don’t be shy! (we could organize the Best Note Art contest)

It was a tight squeeze on an already crowded notepad, but it served its purpose.

I’ve been back to Atlantis, of necessity. Yes, I left something there. The beggar’s bowl. So after making it a good chunk of the way through Shangri La, I went back to Atlantis and, to my surprise, I could now close the door at the temple with the water pouring through it and make my way all the way back to where the ferryman was still waiting for me to take me to the dock. Patient, isn’t he? He doesn’t know I’m racketing my way through time and space and can disappear at will.

I finished the game.
Mmm, I’m sorry to say I didn’t like it at all. I just found it very tedious, even the Arthur jokes couldn’t save the game from the constant spewing of long speeches about religious stuff in boring bad acting.
Also felt the time travel premise was such a wasted opportunity, the player could go to so many real interesting places anywhere in time and we are stuck going to 3 uninteresting mythical fictional cities that kept recycling the same themes.
The puzzles also felt very uninspiring, again failing to make use of the premise Traveling in Time!! Such boring tasks like fetching a knife or a beggar’s bowl... Come on, at least let me use a boom stick!!!

On thing about the final speech when Gage is possessed, did he say something like: ...The secrets will shared when all the races when they are reasy for such a AWESOME responsibility… Awesome responsability really? It’s just nitpicking but I found it funny

The playthrough, on the other hand, was entertaining, thanks diego, nice leadership!

Nice emo yak!    How does it see where it’s going?

Re the Shangri La map: I found it helpful because if you use those levers to change the position of the round doors, the map reflects the changes.