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Armikrog - The Neverhood developers making a new game
I don’t really want to get too involved in this discussion, which is somewhat ironic as I believe I am the one who first brought it up, but I have to say that I find gamers in general to be very odd people in that they would willingly overlook important civil rights issues over something as utterly trivial as a game. I would stop playing games forever if it could bring about equality in the world and I would never look back.
Unfortunately, such a future will never happen, because people like Doug TenNapel will always exist to ensure that equality never will.
Most of the time, you don’t really know anything about the politics and personality of the person who made the game you’re playing. For all I know, Ron Gilbert could be a neo-nazi, and Tim Schafer could beat his wife. Doug just happens to have gotten up on a soap box a few times….
If Ron Gilbert was a neo-nazi then i am pretty sure we would have heard about it 
Anyway i do get your point.
My point is that he has been up on that soap box (more then a few times), and I do hold him accountable for what he has said.
You have to play the game, to find out why you are playing the game! - eXistenZ
Frogcuda can I ask something: would you buy Hitler’s art assuming he got the money?
How about backing him on a Kickstarter?
Hitler’s art stinks.
Way to miss the point.
Feel free to choose your favorite dictator/mass-murderer/evil mastermind artist.
I got your point, I was just trying to be funny.
If he was really actively doing harm to something I believed in, it might be another matter, you’re right. But he’s just a big blowhard, and frankly I can overlook that.
Not that i do have the right to direct anything and sound as a M0d or an Admin but shouldn’t this thread be more materialistic about the Project and above that Positive ..
i made this thread Should support of an artist be influenced by their beliefs/attitudes?
one last thing (here) bout this subject. it brings out (at least for me) personal opinions/feelings for this gay marriage issue plus the right thing/what should be in an ideal world (the virtue of freedom) .. .. so those 2 things can be so different within and can change, easily can make anyone me contradict myself .. lost between what i think and the optimum rights
and that brought me to think/remember that i enjoyed watching Philadelphia/the movie so much (tho personally i am against gays and gay marriage but isn’t that a prove that its the art what matters .. politics come and go (and changes of course), art Stays !
Yes, let’s turn this thread back over to Armikrog and use the other thread to continue discussing the issues of supporting controversial artists (including TenNapel) on the new thread Advie linked to above.
I recently received the Doug TenNapel Sketchbook Archives (I backed TenNapel’s previous Kickstarter project), which reveals a keenly creative, unorthodox mind at work. The backer updates on Kickstarter for this project were a hoot. The Sketchbook includes a few Armikrog sketches with different krog types. Possible spoiler—just being very careful. Perhaps the most intriguing is Lord Kalhoun the winged anti-krog. I think the game promises to be even more daftly entertaining than The Neverhood.
Frogcuda can I ask something: would you buy Hitler’s art assuming he got the money?
How about backing him on a Kickstarter?
Godwin’s law.
Also, if Hitler was a successful artist then he would have had less time devoted to taking over the world.
I really stopped judging art by the artist’s personal life with Michael Jackson.
I really stopped judging art by the artist’s personal life with Michael Jackson.
That is the best i heard at this discussion so far .
Frogcuda can I ask something: would you buy Hitler’s art assuming he got the money?
How about backing him on a Kickstarter?
Godwin’s law.
I’m just trying to find out where the lines are drawn. Best way to do that is work inward from the extremities.
Back on topic: I love Neverhood and this looks equally great… but why oh why are characters talking? I love the silent concept of the first Neverhood. It made the game feel unique and moody.
In The Neverhood, Klaymen could talk. I remember him removing his head and saying “beep, beep, beep.”
I’ll admit, though, that hearing intelligible words issuing from the characters’ mouths in the Armikrog. trailer was shocking. The voiceovers were good, though, especially the dog thingie.
Why does the game title require punctuation? Are we only supposed to use the title at the end of a sentence? In The Neverhood, Klaymen (instead of Klayman) had a purpose (for a good chunk of the game I thought it was a typo). What is the purpose of the period after Armikrog?
Klaymen could talk but he only said maybe 5 words in the whole game.
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