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Sounds intriguing Advie, but I might pass. 4 minutes is usually too long to spend on any politician, let alone 4 hours (and let alone Putin).

Hm.. what did I watch lately?
I watched Palm Springs, which I probably would have said was pretty good if I paid less attention. The cast and comedy elements were entertaining enough, for a Groundhog Day style movie, it just totally failed to have any kind of point to it even on a relationship level. I don’t think anyone learned anything by the end.

The Killing of Two Lovers was better, bleak Utah setting and bleaker family falling apart. I’m not sure I grasp fully what the director/writer wanted to get across.

Vitalina Varela was easily the best of the bunch. It’s not something you can really review without spoilers, just loved the shadowy cinematography and the whole concept.

     
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Vitalina Varela seems interesting but not available just yet on either Amazon or Netflix.

     
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chrissie - 02 September 2020 09:57 AM

Vitalina Varela seems interesting but not available just yet on either Amazon or Netflix.

i have watched it, it is so depressing and very low budgeted movie, but i can’t say it is bad, i only can say that when i watch non-english films i would love them to be at a league that is not available with the commercial movies, and from that perspective i don’t think it was that* good.

     
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Went to see Tenet last weekend.

Kind of hard to describe.

I want to go Nolan-fanboy and say “Nolan has done it again” because the movie is great, and it’s a massive mindfuck in terms of figuring out how the finer points of the film work. While I got the gist of it, my initial response was “I need to see this again” - something that also occurred with Memento and Inception.
The thing is, this time around, I’m not entirely sure a second viewing would really help. In a way this is his “most difficult” film yet, but in another way it’s also “weaker” Nolan - if there is such a thing.
The main character’s a blank slate, so hard to relate to; the emotional impact of the “mother trying to get away with her son from her abusive relationship” is minimal; and even the central mechanic of “time inversion” feels a bit gimmicky.

But then again, the film is intricately constructed. You spend half the movie figuring out “where are they going with this?” and then half a movie being mindblown as you get new perspectives on things. And the action sequences look absolutely stunning. The “car flip in reverse” chase scene would probably make Michael Bay and the Wachowski’s proud, several close combat scenes are far better than Nolan has done before, and it’s amazing that this guy did the entire transport freighter plane scene without models or CGI - all practical effects with an actual plane!

The film is intriguing, it’s fantastic to look at, it’s brainy. All the hallmarks we’re used of by Nolan. But it’s also flawed…

And Kenneth Branagh is fucking scary. Smile

Tenet - 3.5/5


3.5 is “very good” in my book (with 4 being the cut-off for brilliance). Nolan has never dipped below a 3.5 for me in 11 films (with most being 4 or 4.5). Puts him in a masterclass of his own… Thumbs Up

     

Last played: Lighthouse: The Dark Being (CPT) - 2.5/5 | Anna’s Quest (CPT) - 4.5/5 | Simon the Sorcerer II: The Lion, the Wizard and the Wardrobe - 4/5 | Florence - 4/5 | Alice Trapped in Wonderland - 1/5 | The Hunt for the Lost Ship - 1.5/5 | The Talos Principle - 4/5 | Tex Murphy: Martian Memorandum - 3/5 | Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 3/5 | Simon the Sorcerer (replay) - 4/5 | Portal 2 - 4/5 | Murder By Numbers - 3.5/5 | Heavy Rain - 3.5/5 | Disco Elysium - 4.5/5 | Freddi Fish 2: The Case of the Haunted Schoolhouse - 3/5 | Freddi Fish and the Case of the Missing Kelp Seeds - 3/5 | Whispers of a Machine (CPT) - 4/5 | Beneath a Steel Sky (CPT) - 3/5 | 3 in Three - 3.5/5 | Puzzle Gallery: At the Carnival - 2.5/5 | The Fool’s Errand (replay) - 3/5

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Advie - 05 September 2020 06:21 PM
chrissie - 02 September 2020 09:57 AM

Vitalina Varela seems interesting but not available just yet on either Amazon or Netflix.

i have watched it, it is so depressing and very low budgeted movie, but i can’t say it is bad, i only can say that when i watch non-english films i would love them to be at a league that is not available with the commercial movies, and from that perspective i don’t think it was that* good.

Did you skip the ending or something? I just don’t know how you could find it depressing otherwise. There are not many movies with a hopeful perspective on death and healing, but this is one.

TimovieMan - 07 September 2020 05:20 AM

Went to see Tenet last weekend.

Kind of hard to describe.

I want to go Nolan-fanboy and say “Nolan has done it again” because the movie is great, and it’s a massive mindfuck in terms of figuring out how the finer points of the film work. While I got the gist of it, my initial response was “I need to see this again” - something that also occurred with Memento and Inception.
The thing is, this time around, I’m not entirely sure a second viewing would really help. In a way this is his “most difficult” film yet, but in another way it’s also “weaker” Nolan - if there is such a thing.
The main character’s a blank slate, so hard to relate to; the emotional impact of the “mother trying to get away with her son from her abusive relationship” is minimal; and even the central mechanic of “time inversion” feels a bit gimmicky.

But then again, the film is intricately constructed. You spend half the movie figuring out “where are they going with this?” and then half a movie being mindblown as you get new perspectives on things. And the action sequences look absolutely stunning. The “car flip in reverse” chase scene would probably make Michael Bay and the Wachowski’s proud, several close combat scenes are far better than Nolan has done before, and it’s amazing that this guy did the entire transport freighter plane scene without models or CGI - all practical effects with an actual plane!

The film is intriguing, it’s fantastic to look at, it’s brainy. All the hallmarks we’re used of by Nolan. But it’s also flawed…

And Kenneth Branagh is fucking scary. Smile

Tenet - 3.5/5


3.5 is “very good” in my book (with 4 being the cut-off for brilliance). Nolan has never dipped below a 3.5 for me in 11 films (with most being 4 or 4.5). Puts him in a masterclass of his own… Thumbs Up

Every time I’ve gone to see a Nolan flick I’m always wanting to tell him something like “this is extremely cool and all, but what’s your point?” They just seem like impressive stylistic experiments designed to WOW you but once you’re back home days later all you can recall is the wow factor. And some of his movies don’t even have that - The Prestige was extremely boring to me. The positive side is that he’s not actually that old, and if there’s anything that will make him a better filmmaker it’s aging, facing death, questioning the purpose of life.

     
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Vehelon - 10 September 2020 12:01 AM
Advie - 05 September 2020 06:21 PM
chrissie - 02 September 2020 09:57 AM

Vitalina Varela seems interesting but not available just yet on either Amazon or Netflix.

i have watched it, it is so depressing and very low budgeted movie, but i can’t say it is bad, i only can say that when i watch non-english films i would love them to be at a league that is not available with the commercial movies, and from that perspective i don’t think it was that* good.

Did you skip the ending or something? I just don’t know how you could find it depressing otherwise. There are not many movies with a hopeful perspective on death and healing, but this is one.

did you know ?? Innocent , i didn’t finish it really, could be my mistake, but you do understand, to watch a movie and keep your eyes all the time at the low frame of the picture to read the subtitles is not joyful at all, esp, that you miss the experience of watching the actors most of the time so that what I mean; to watch a foreign movie it has to captivate me to great extend and so much to be able to finish it and enjoy it. but however with your suggest-ful liking to the movie, as Chrissie too, i will give another run.

 

     

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It’s a good question though - if 99% of a movie is depressing, the other 1% extremely not-depressing, does that make it depressing?

Or what if you have a very fun, uplifting movie with a totally depressing ending?

Do we go by percentages, the number of minutes you have a smile on your face? or is it the overall message that counts?

     
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Vehelon - 10 September 2020 12:01 AM

Every time I’ve gone to see a Nolan flick I’m always wanting to tell him something like “this is extremely cool and all, but what’s your point?” They just seem like impressive stylistic experiments designed to WOW you but once you’re back home days later all you can recall is the wow factor. And some of his movies don’t even have that - The Prestige was extremely boring to me. The positive side is that he’s not actually that old, and if there’s anything that will make him a better filmmaker it’s aging, facing death, questioning the purpose of life.

While I don’t necessarily think every movie needs to have “a point” and can easily be enjoyed for what they are, I think Nolan most of the time does extremely well in adding at least something of an emotional core to accompany the twists and “holy shit!” moments. In Tenet it’s mainly the mother trying to get away from her abusive husband together with her son. Where it falls flat is that we only hear her talk about her son, we don’t actually see him all that much which hurts the impact it could/should have.
The Prestige - also “weaker” Nolan - lacks an emotional core altogether and has the disadvantage of starring some *very* unlikable characters, which means you have no-one to root for and thus don’t care as much about what happens to them.

In other films he did quite a lot better, I feel. In Interstellar we have the whole “father not being able to keep his promise to come back to his daughter to see her grow up”, and Inception even has the double whammy of Cobb’s grief over (accidentally) driving his wife to suicide AND the broken relationship between Robert Fischer and his father…

But, again, Tenet still is a cool film and if anything, Nolan’s action direction has greatly improved over the years. The “revolving hallway” in Inception was something of a turning point for him in that regard. The moment his action direction took a leap forward.






In other news, I watched Mirage (original Spanish title: Durante la Tormenta) on Netflix last weekend. Reminded me a bit of Frequency with it’s “communicating with the past and inadvertently changing it” concept, but this was a bit more serious, and had a nice twist at the end. Overall a very well-made and intriguing film.
This is in fact the second film of writer/director Oriol Paulo I’ve seen. I watched “The Invisible Guest” aka “Contratiempo” last year and that was an excellent thriller with an equally nice twist at the end.
Seeing as how this guy now is 2 for 2 in my book, I’m going to take a closer look at his other films… Smile

     

Last played: Lighthouse: The Dark Being (CPT) - 2.5/5 | Anna’s Quest (CPT) - 4.5/5 | Simon the Sorcerer II: The Lion, the Wizard and the Wardrobe - 4/5 | Florence - 4/5 | Alice Trapped in Wonderland - 1/5 | The Hunt for the Lost Ship - 1.5/5 | The Talos Principle - 4/5 | Tex Murphy: Martian Memorandum - 3/5 | Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 3/5 | Simon the Sorcerer (replay) - 4/5 | Portal 2 - 4/5 | Murder By Numbers - 3.5/5 | Heavy Rain - 3.5/5 | Disco Elysium - 4.5/5 | Freddi Fish 2: The Case of the Haunted Schoolhouse - 3/5 | Freddi Fish and the Case of the Missing Kelp Seeds - 3/5 | Whispers of a Machine (CPT) - 4/5 | Beneath a Steel Sky (CPT) - 3/5 | 3 in Three - 3.5/5 | Puzzle Gallery: At the Carnival - 2.5/5 | The Fool’s Errand (replay) - 3/5

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I’ve just watched Cuties - I was hoping that all of the negative comments were based on impressions out of context.
I’ve now cancelled my Netflix subscription as this film is bad & should never have been made as it is vile.

     
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Contratiempo is an excellent mystery/thriller. The fact I saw the twist coming 1 minute into the movie doesn’t change that.

     
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chrissie - 14 September 2020 05:05 PM

I’ve just watched Cuties - I was hoping that all of the negative comments were based on impressions out of context.
I’ve now cancelled my Netflix subscription as this film is bad & should never have been made as it is vile.

And it doesn’t help that its director, the french-israeli Sylvain de Zangroniz, auditioned 650 little girls and asked them to do “provocative dance moves”.

People allowed our culture to become this sordid and no amount of unsubscribing/cancelation will change its course, unfortunately.

     

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