Myst, Aura, Sentinel, Schizm etc. - Page 2

MDMaster · 09-13-2006, 01:10 AM

I went with Riven too, even though Blackstone CHronicles was really really great, nice gripping story and fresh puzzles.

Kolzig · 09-13-2006, 04:29 AM

I just don't like Myst-like games. Many people seem to like them, but I don't. I surely don't consider them to be fun in anyway.

The only games that I've played from that genre are Lighthouse and 11th hour.

Kurufinwe · 09-13-2006, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolzig

The only games that I've played from that genre are Lighthouse and 11th hour.

Which may explain why you don't like them. You ought to give a chance to the good ones one day.

Wimli · 09-13-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AFGNCAAP

Hm... I don't see how Voyage, Blackstone Chronicles and Post Mortem could be classified as Myst-clones at all. I'm not too sure about Amber and Amerzone, either.

I think Voyage fits the category rather nicely. Post Mortem and The Blackstone Chronicles however I agree, don't really see them as Myst-clones. Might fit the list better: Rama, Timelapse, Zork: Nemesis, Reah, etc.

But anyway, from this list I'd pick Voyage. I'm currently playing it and enjoying it tremendously! What a wonderful game! Much better than any of the Myst games really which, from the ones I played, I never really liked that much.

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Originally Posted by Kurufinwe

Which may explain why you don't like them. You ought to give a chance to the good ones one day.

Really? Must say I actually liked Lighthouse. Gotta agree on 11th Hour though, that was pretty crappy. The 7th Guest then again was ok, but Shivers did a much better job in the haunted-house-filled-with-puzzles department.

MDMaster · 09-13-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurufinwe

Which may explain why you don't like them. You ought to give a chance to the good ones one day.

Hehe, agree with you on that!

AFGNCAAP · 09-13-2006, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wimli

I think Voyage fits the category rather nicely.

I think the emphasis on the inventory is far too great for it to be considered a Myst-clone.

(But whatever it is, I agree with you that it's a wonderful game.

)

Wimli · 09-13-2006, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AFGNCAAP

I think the emphasis on the inventory is far too great for it to be considered a Myst-clone.

(But whatever it is, I agree with you that it's a wonderful game.

)

Ah, that's true, didn't really think of that part. Must have been too long since I played a real Myst-clone.

The lonely world, emphasis on (and fun of) exploring a strange world, some mechanical, code and symbol puzzles, 1st person perspective, etc, was what made me consider it as a Myst-like game. Doesn't really matter idd, enjoying every minute of this game!

AprilLives · 09-13-2006, 07:27 AM

Voyage looks and sounds great. I gather it's inspired by a classic. For some reason, I've never wanted to buy a game that is a take-off on a well-known book or movie. I guess that is one of the many reasons I love Riven ... it's so uniquely original.

*Melanie68* · 09-13-2006, 07:30 AM

Voyage (and Return to Mysterious Island by the same company) were inspired by Jules Verne stories but they don't follow the stories faithfully. I haven't read either but I really enjoyed both games.

MdaG · 09-13-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Melanie68

Voyage (and Return to Mysterious Island by the same company) were inspired by Jules Verne stories but they don't follow the stories faithfully. I haven't read either but I really enjoyed both games.

Mysterious Journey (in the poll) should of course be Return to Mysterious Island

I realize that my definition of Myst-clone is far more loose than everyone elses. To me a Myst clone is basically a first person point and click adventure with puzzles here and there.

Jelena · 09-13-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MdaG

Mysterious Journey (in the poll) should of course be Return to Mysterious Island

I realize that my definition of Myst-clone is far more loose than everyone elses. To me a Myst clone is basically a first person point and click adventure with puzzles here and there.

Myst-clones imo shouldn't have any inventory and Return to Mysterious Island is the most inventory heavy game I've ever seen.

LeisureSuitedLooney · 09-13-2006, 11:51 AM

Yeah, when I think Myst-clone, I consider it a game with a puzzle-filled, character-empty world. Not a lot of world/character interactivity, but pretty to look at. And a story that is secondary to the puzzles, if any real story development at all. The only "Myst-Style" games I liked were the 2 Shivers games and Zork: Nemesis, although those settings never felt as devoid of life as Myst did. I don't know, I just never enjoyed puzzles as much as plot development, and so many of this type of game end up being verrrrry puzzle-dependent.

AFGNCAAP · 09-13-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jelena

Myst-clones imo shouldn't have any inventory and Return to Mysterious Island is the most inventory heavy game I've ever seen.

Yes, I'd say Mysterious Journey (aka Schizm) should stay as a poll option, even if MdaG originally meant RtMI.

*Melanie68* · 09-13-2006, 12:01 PM

Therein lies the problem with generalizing as 1st person vs. 3rd person. To some, if they hear first person game, they automatically think of Myst when there are a wide variety of first person games with varying degrees of character interaction, story, puzzle types, etc.

Kolzig · 09-13-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurufinwe

Which may explain why you don't like them. You ought to give a chance to the good ones one day.

I don't really want to give those games a chance, because I really, really don't like the Myst™ puzzles and gameplay, sorry.

Mordalles · 09-13-2006, 12:42 PM

then why are you even in this thread posting? the poll mentions "most fun".

AFGNCAAP · 09-13-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordalles

then why are you even in this thread posting? the poll mentions "most fun".

...and the thread starter asks "What did you think about them?". Come on, Kolzig said nothing in the least inflammatory, and was clearly just presenting his own opinion.

In fact, for a thread that has "Myst" in the title, we are doing great as far as flamewars are considered.

Panthera · 09-13-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Melanie68

Voyage (and Return to Mysterious Island by the same company) were inspired by Jules Verne stories but they don't follow the stories faithfully. I haven't read either but I really enjoyed both games.

"The Mysterious island" is a wonderful book witch I recommend to everyone. Survival novel, society critisism, character relations, it really drags you in.

"50 leagues under the sea" witch I think it's called, but not sure, is also very good, but how you read it is based heavily on what political views and meanings you have. I know that I've interpetated the book totally different than ppl. who really like this world..

rtrooney · 09-13-2006, 05:25 PM

Shivers.

Wimli · 09-16-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Panthera

"The Mysterious island" is a wonderful book witch I recommend to everyone. Survival novel, society critisism, character relations, it really drags you in.

"50 leagues under the sea" witch I think it's called, but not sure, is also very good, but how you read it is based heavily on what political views and meanings you have. I know that I've interpetated the book totally different than ppl. who really like this world..

Isn't Voyage inspired by Jules Verne's From the Earth to the Moon? (not entirely sure about the title either)

View Poll Results: Most fun "Myst"-clone (including Myst ;-))
Myst	3	5.08%
Riven	20	33.90%
Exile	4	6.78%
Revelation	7	11.86%
End of Ages	2	3.39%
Sentinel	2	3.39%
Aura - Fate of the Ages	3	5.08%
Voyage	8	13.56%
Mysterious Journey	0	0%
Post Mortem	1	1.69%
Lighthouse	0	0%
Amerzone	0	0%
Blackstone Chronicles	3	5.08%
Amber	0	0%
Other	6	10.17%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

09-13-2006, 01:10 AM	#21
MDMaster Evil Webmaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,037	I went with Riven too, even though Blackstone CHronicles was really really great, nice gripping story and fresh puzzles. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Pushed back to square Now that you've kneed her In the throat So there you go

09-13-2006, 04:29 AM	#22
Kolzig The Reggienator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 5,519	I just don't like Myst-like games. Many people seem to like them, but I don't. I surely don't consider them to be fun in anyway. The only games that I've played from that genre are Lighthouse and 11th hour. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ "The old standby, that never got old in the first place. We come back to them weekly, nightly, for hours at a time--and they always deliver. They are pure, timeless, and often taken for granted." - Nick Breckon - Shacknews My gamesale list updated 26.8.2007 Hey, dear people please buy my games, I need money to conquer Europe! Or do something similar.

09-13-2006, 07:27 AM	#28
AprilLives Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 366	Voyage looks and sounds great. I gather it's inspired by a classic. For some reason, I've never wanted to buy a game that is a take-off on a well-known book or movie. I guess that is one of the many reasons I love Riven ... it's so uniquely original. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ Life Is A Riddle Waiting To Be Solved Favorite Adventure Games: Riven, The Longest Journey 1, Syberia 1 & 2, Grim Fandango, Still Life 1, Broken Sword Series, Lost Crown Heavy Rain (Action/Adventure)

09-13-2006, 07:30 AM	#29
Melanie68 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,907	Voyage (and Return to Mysterious Island by the same company) were inspired by Jules Verne stories but they don't follow the stories faithfully. I haven't read either but I really enjoyed both games. Share Share this post on Twitter

09-13-2006, 11:51 AM	#32
LeisureSuitedLooney Rabid Tasmanian Devil Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,158	Yeah, when I think Myst-clone, I consider it a game with a puzzle-filled, character-empty world. Not a lot of world/character interactivity, but pretty to look at. And a story that is secondary to the puzzles, if any real story development at all. The only "Myst-Style" games I liked were the 2 Shivers games and Zork: Nemesis, although those settings never felt as devoid of life as Myst did. I don't know, I just never enjoyed puzzles as much as plot development, and so many of this type of game end up being verrrrry puzzle-dependent. Share Share this post on Twitter

09-13-2006, 12:01 PM	#34
Melanie68 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,907	Therein lies the problem with generalizing as 1st person vs. 3rd person. To some, if they hear first person game, they automatically think of Myst when there are a wide variety of first person games with varying degrees of character interaction, story, puzzle types, etc. Share Share this post on Twitter

09-13-2006, 12:42 PM	#36
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09-13-2006, 05:25 PM	#39
rtrooney Codger Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,080	Shivers. Share Share this post on Twitter __________________ For whom the games toll... They toll for thee

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