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^yeah, projects that failed will absolutely come up in the search. However, portal for some reason is not coming up.. so i think thats some kindv anomaly.
EDIT: oh i understand, its because portal was cancelled. Only projects that go past their deadline without being funded show up in the search, if a project is pulled before the deadline it doesnt.

Lucien21 - 10 June 2012 10:27 AM

And how would you know that. Kickstarter does a very good job of hiding it’s failures.

You can only search for ongoing or funded projects.

Kicktraq.com

Also, Kickstarter put out some data about a year ago that said of the 20,000 campaigns at that time, only one had ever failed at 90+%. And even then the only projects that fail with anything over 70 or 80% are the ones with small goals and less than 500 backers.

$450k, 45 hours to go. They’re certainly going to take the award for the most suspenseful end to a campaign.

harald - 10 June 2012 12:45 PM

Also, you can’t back your own project. If this is going to pull through, it’s up to the backers; the Two Guys can’t add any funds themselves.

Well, the limitation is that you can’t back a project via the same account that started the project. If however you have another account then you can back it through that.

So, the Two Guys From Andromeda account can’t back the project, but Scott Murphy and Mark Crowe both have their own personal accounts, and are already backing it that way, so feasibly they could increase their pledge to make up any short fall if necessary.

they should be fine. Theyv been averaging 20kish per day in crunch time. And theyr going to get more than that on the last day. So i’d predict theyr going to end with somewhere around 530-550k

Jatsie - 10 June 2012 04:29 PM

Well, the limitation is that you can’t back a project via the same account that started the project. If however you have another account then you can back it through that.

So, the Two Guys From Andromeda account can’t back the project, but Scott Murphy and Mark Crowe both have their own personal accounts, and are already backing it that way, so feasibly they could increase their pledge to make up any short fall if necessary.

This is, again, from the FAQ on Kickstarter:

I pledged to my own project from another account, and now my Amazon Payments account is canceled?!

Warning! Credit card rules forbid project creators from paying themselves. Any pledges made by a project creator to themselves may cause Amazon to cancel a project creator’s Amazon account, making it impossible to receive or remove funds.

While Kickstarter prevents project creators from backing their own projects from the same Kickstarter account, Amazon will detect if the project creator uses a new Kickstarter account and/or a new Amazon account to make the pledge. Amazon looks for the credit card info as well as other primary information to determine if a party is attempting to pay itself. This is not an Amazon-specific policy — this type of transaction is considered an attempt to create a “cash advance” and is forbidden by all credit card companies.

From what I gather, they might have some trouble with Amazon for backing their own project. And it’s not really difficult to see why it’s a questionable thing to do.

harald - 10 June 2012 04:38 PM

This is, again, from the FAQ on Kickstarter:

I pledged to my own project from another account, and now my Amazon Payments account is canceled?!

Warning! Credit card rules forbid project creators from paying themselves. Any pledges made by a project creator to themselves may cause Amazon to cancel a project creator’s Amazon account, making it impossible to receive or remove funds.

While Kickstarter prevents project creators from backing their own projects from the same Kickstarter account, Amazon will detect if the project creator uses a new Kickstarter account and/or a new Amazon account to make the pledge. Amazon looks for the credit card info as well as other primary information to determine if a party is attempting to pay itself. This is not an Amazon-specific policy — this type of transaction is considered an attempt to create a “cash advance” and is forbidden by all credit card companies.

From what I gather, they might have some trouble with Amazon for backing their own project. And it’s not really difficult to see why it’s a questionable thing to do.

Well, I assume that they set up a separate bank account for their company when they founded it, so under that circumstance they wouldn’t technically be paying themselves, as a company has its own distinct legal identity, separate from the people who own it.

I only raise this possibility as I did notice in previous campaigns that, for example, members of the team developing the LSL remake had backed the Replay Games Kickstarter via their personal accounts, etc.

I hope you’re right Jatsie, and I suppose you probably are. But I don’t understand what the point of throwing a few bucks into their own project is. Unless they really are pledging considerable amounts, in which case they could have just lowered the project goal. I’d understand if Amazon found it fishy, but I hope they won’t. And if the Replay folks got away with it, I suppose the Two Guys will too.

harald - 10 June 2012 05:03 PM

I hope you’re right Jatsie, and I suppose you probably are. But I don’t understand what the point of throwing a few bucks into their own project is. Unless they really are pledging considerable amounts, in which case they could have just lowered the project goal. I’d understand if Amazon found it fishy, but I hope they won’t. And if the Replay folks got away with it, I suppose the Two Guys will too.

You can’t lower your goal after the fact, and in the case of Two Guys I think they may have shot a little higher than absolutely necessary, probably because they seem to be budgeting a lot for acting talent. So it’s not absurd to me to think that they might find a corner to cut if it’s the difference between making it or not.

That said, I have no doubt they’ll hit the goal without the need at this point. Their momentum is very high and they still have time. I’ve seen projects with less backers do $100,000 on their last day, and they only have $48,000 to go in over a day and a half.

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Just think! If we can get this bastard funded before the end of the campaign, we should see some nifty Stretch goals being established!

Lucien21 - 07 June 2012 03:28 PM

When you look at the surprising figures you will see that this project has more backers than the Tex game, but they are averaging less.

$472k with 9,359 backers   = $50 each

compared to

$510k with 5,778 backers   = $88 each

If every current backer increased their pledge by about $18 they would make their target.

I was doing a little maths earlier because I found this interesting. If you focus exclusively on the $15 tier on both campaigns, this accounts for 52% of Tex Murphy’s backers, and similarly 55% of SpaceVenture backers. So when you add this to the fact that Tex has 38% fewer backers, yet 8% more money pledged, it indicates that the real difference is that the people pledging the very high amounts are pledging significantly more than on the SpaceVenture campaign.

I’d be curious to see if this is just down to some inherent differences in the fan base, or if it has something to do with the rewards offered by each campaign.

I wasn’t sure about this one but decided to pledge after all. I sure hope it’s going to make it!